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Again...we can go around and around with this.
But I can see exactly why the Spurs won't give up Mason and Hill in a deal for VC.
If you refuse to see it or don't want to......then so be it!!
TRADE HIM!!!!
Again...we can go around and around with this.
But I can see exactly why the Spurs won't give up Mason and Hill in a deal for VC.
If you refuse to see it or don't want to......then so be it!!
Have we decided completely against David Lee of the Knicks? The President and staff have decided they want to get rid of him and Nate so they can go after Lebron next year. Probably get him for next to nothing.
Because Peter can't sell that many CATs, most likely.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...d=42&year=2008
Considering Mason hasn't even seen the postseason yet, it's hard to compare. But Brent Barry's performance wasn't THAT great.
That's reassuring.
Um, yeah., it's hard to compare. But Brent Barry's performance wasn't THAT great.
Then why every analyst and members on their own team have spoken about it and people from the Celtics went down to New Orleans to talk PJ out of retirement.
Yes...they have a great record!! But the playoffs are about matchups and the Cavs frontline is bigger than the Celts and they will miss his size in that playoff matchup.
Also, they want Joe Smith for the same reason to fill the void that P.J Brown has left.
Spurs chances of trading may have gotten better now....with Chandler going back to NO. Spurs can go in on Wilcox or Smith or even get OKC involved in a 3 team trade with Jersey where the Spurs could get VC without having to deal Mase or Hill.
He had a couple good games.
When Mason plays well in the postseason...you will be one of the first fans going nuts about his performance.
Can I have some of what your smoking?
The Celtics bench was James Posey, the corpses of Sam Cassell and PJ Brown, and Leon Powe. Wow, thats an amazing bench. Truly.
How the does the trade gut our bench? Mason is a starter (replaced with Carter), Bowen would be back. So what, we lose Hill and maybe Oberto?
....George Hill, whose averaging what, 12-15 minutes a game since Tony came back and like 5 points? That's the answer to our bench woes? Oberto is just a corpse right now as well. These guys are the answer to our bench?
Not to mention, come playoffs, not a chance in Hill sees the final 6 minutes of the game. Carter on the other hand.....
Post trade we have a solid 8.
Parker
Carter
Manu
Duncan
Bonner
Finely
Bowen
Kurt
That's a pretty damn good 8 man playoff rotation. Let's not forget, Carter can also play in the second unit with Manu and those two alone can carry the entire scoring load. All's vaughn has to do is dribble the damn ball up.
On top of all that, what role player wouldn't want to come sign with us next season to have a shot to play with 4 allstars?
Including them for Carter, assuming we get Bruce back, really is a no brainer.
PJ Brown played in 18 games last year averaging 2PPG, holy how are they managing to live without that production. BTW in the playoffs he upped his avg to 3 PPG so yeah they really need to replace that. Perkins, Powe and Davis are compared to PJ Brown.
Is this a good 8 man roster?
Shaq
Tyson Chandler
LaMarcus Aldridge
Rasheed Wallace
Al Harrington
Joe Smith
Pau Gasol
Andres Biedrins
Maverick Ripper speaks truth.
Which is perhaps what we'd see out of Mason. Spurs needed more than that.
Mine has 4 All-stars, and 4 role players.
Yours just sucks.
So you do want to gamble. I don't see how you can know Carter would be worth two of our better role players.
My two cents on the Vince Carter thing: Rod Thorn drives a hard bargain, and he usually holds firm at the deadline until the other guy decides whether to blink. Two years ago, he wouldn't send Jason Kidd to the Lakers unless they sent Andrew Bynum back. Last year, he wanted two unprotected No. 1s along with Devin Harris from the Mavs, and he got them. And on this one, my gut tells me that if Thorn can get the Blazers to give him Travis Outlaw, Rudy Fernandez, $3 million and a bunch of those extra second-round picks the Blazers are holding (their own, New York's and Denver's in 2009; their own and the Bulls' in 2010) along with Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract, the Nets will go for it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...Roundup-090218
No way in the Blazers give up Rudy, I think the Spurs should be the one to make Rod Thorn blink and make him give us VC for scraps, no Hill, no Mason, last minute deal. Do it!
I see my point went over your head.
Gamble? Right. The Spurs would be getting a legit top flight scoring wing for two of their role players.
this guy is correct
Considering hill plays 12-15 minutes, scores about 5 points and won't see the floor in the end of a big game in the post season.
The real question is basically: Mason or Vince?
I love Mason, but I'll take the allstar with most second game winners in the past few years, only being LeBron.
I forgot Carter was a proven playoff performer. I seem to remember something about a graduation ceremony...
Look back and see if you can understand what I was trying to get at with my 8 man roster post.
Just like Ray Ray and KG weren't...
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