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Uh, I do. I just don't watch them while punching one out at the very sight of a certain IUPUI product.
Bruce and Oberto would be bought out.
Uh, I do. I just don't watch them while punching one out at the very sight of a certain IUPUI product.
just have a feeling that in some weeks or months we will be really bothered by the fact, we didnt trade mason...he will go through bad shooting slumps and wont be worth anything while hill is the next beno
they are both on their highs in therms of value...maybe even 2 moths over it (imagine someone trading for hill, when he was top5 in the rookie ranking and mason before going through is weaker shooting days).
dont get me wrong...i likeboth of 'em, but i think they are overvalued...hill was nice with parker out, but its not like he will give us a championship as a rookie while beeing stuck behind parker...mason won us 4 games with his dagger and thats great...lets count those daggers come april/may! He is our mario elie right now...but also not the savior.
as a coach I'm all for team balance and getting players into a position, where they fell good...but with a guy like manu (beeing hurt and ready to take a role as 6th man) its not too hard to keep it with a new wing on the team...in the playoffs the rotations are short anyway an I'd rather go with a carter or jefferson linup than a mason linup (hill won't see significant minutes anyway)
If you think Hill is slightly better than vaughn then you either don't watch the games or have no idea what you're talking about. Pick one.
I acknowledge that Bruce would be bought out. Read my post.
So by your logic...the Spurs have never tried to win!!
Even though they've won three in the last 6 championships and with their fiscally responsible formula which has been successful for 10 years...so they should just scrap it and damage themselves long term.
Oh yeah..that's make sense
I could see Phoenix making a desperate move like that...because they've never won anything. Even Dallas.....but they had one look at and failed.
Sometimes, I feel like the Spurs fans think we have a team that is trying to make the playoffs instead of a championship contender!!!
The FO know more than us about time and from your logic it seems like they have never tried to win. Hmmm.....don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
I pick neither. You can take George Hill's jockstrap off of your chin.
Ask anyone here if Hill is "slightly" better than Vaughn and see what kind of responses you get. I guess since you claim you watch the games, you have no idea what you're talking about.
You realize Peter Holt was ready to lose Tony Parker over a couple mil, no?
The Spurs are no longer kings of the mountain. Even with Manu completely healthy they aren't the frontrunners for the le.
I can't believe this week has made me such a Vince Carter fan. He'd always been a dubious superstar to me, a guy who could never quite live up to his tremendous athletic gifts. But now that he's (marginally) closer to possibly being a Spur, I realize what an incredible player he is. Leading a team? No. Fitting in with what we have? Yes, probably.
I can't believe some people would balk at trading Roger Mason and George Hill for him. Mason is a pleasant surprise, but a specialist role player. George Hill is incredibly overrated on this board, a nice player who happens to play a position that isn't tremendously important for us right now.
There is absolutely no freaking way I'd balk at shipping those two guys out for Vince Carter, leaving the money part of it aside.
Here's the deal. With Ginobili out, Vince Carter makes up for his production ALL BY HIMSELF. That is, if Manu is out for the rest of the season, we are conceivably just as good as we were before. If Manu has to rest until the postseason, or he's not that hurt after all, you're ADDING a Ginobili-caliber player to the roster without losing any of our top-tier players.
The only question is Money. That's it.
By "here" do you mean inside your head with the other ten personalities?
What the does Hill bring to the table that is vital to us contending?
Carter will produce more then Mason. We get Bruce back for sure and maybe Oberto (like he matters).
Basically what Hill brings to the table is the only thing that's lost and that aint much.
Stop trying to use the Mavs/Suns analogy. It doesn't work.
Awww is the wittle pussy cat afwaid to ask people what they think cuz he thinks he might be wong? Awwww, fraidy wittle pussy cat.
With all due respect Mr. Body, that's not necessarily true. While Carter can more than hold his own offensively and will certainly make up for Manu's absence there, in no way does he provide the other elements. He doesn't play the on-the-ball defense that Manu does. Doesn't create opportunities for others. And as a newcomer, he's going to have an awfully steep learning curve - offensively and defensively. My point is, even if Carter does come here, his transition will not be as seamless as you've indicated.
My thoughts exactly. Hill is at most going to see 12 minutes in big games come april and may. We have to do this deal. Hopefully Pop and R.C are just being smart about this whole trade. They realize NJ is in a financial crisis and really really want to part ways with Vince's contract. Therefore holding out til tomorrow by offering only Mason or Hill is the smart way to due business. I'm hoping if it comes down to 1 pm central time tomorrow Mason and Hill both are packing their bags for New Jersey. He'll I''ll drive down and pack their bags for them.
Anyone remember the last rookie backup Spurs point guard who saw action in the postseason? I think he set the NBA record for most ting of one's drawers in a playoff game.
AMEN Thank you..
My thoughts exactly. Hill is at most going to see 12 minutes in big games come april and may. We have to do this deal. Hopefully Pop and R.C are just being smart about this whole trade. They realize NJ is in a financial crisis and really really want to part ways with Vince's contract. Therefore holding out til tomorrow by offering only Mason or Hill is the smart way to due business. I'm hoping if it comes down to 1 pm central time tomorrow Mason and Hill both are packing their bags for New Jersey. He'll I''ll drive down and pack their bags for them.
Again, I know about that with TP. But they pull the trigger on that deal...uh, no!!
I understand that the Spurs are no longer the king of the mountain. It happens teams get better.
This isn't the Boston Celtics in the 60's where they were winning every year. That doesn't happen in modern pro basketball.
But your last post seemed like the Spurs have not tried to win at all. Which is not true! The FO deserves more credit than that.
But you want your team to be a contending ballclub and they still are and they have started to have some depth and youth as well. Well...you keep that depth and youth and continue to be financially sound.
I think everyone is forgetting what we really need here, a big man..
Now Hill = Beno
Nah, I don't feel like it. It's odd that for such an 'obvious' point, you don't really seem to have many piping up to support your assertion in a forum which is quite good at that.
Go ahead, ask the people.
Now, I agree with that!!
there is no deal
Now Hill = Beno
Beno was hot until he met the postseason. And he'd done more in his sleep (which was usually most of the regular season) than Hill ever has.
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