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    Oh grasshopper, I have plenty of perspective. The Spurs have two once-in-a-generation bigmen fall into their laps and they have only 4 les to show for it over 19 years?
    Only 4 les...shows you have no perspective!!

    Only the Celtics, Lakers, and Bulls have more championships than the Spurs.

    And considering.....a lot of people think NBA is in the tank for the Lakers and Celtics...that a team from South Texas even have a championship let alone 4 is remarkable indeed!!!

    A team from South Texas that saw lightning strike twice in the lottery. Duncan's career is past the halfway point. Win now and worry later.

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    Yep...easy to post to spend other people's money!!!

    It's not as easy as making excuses for those other people.

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    Dude stop being rational, objective and logical, you're messing with his head.
    Thanks!

    I forgot that the word "fan" comes from the word "fanatic"


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    Dude stop being rational, objective and logical, you're messing with his head.
    If you believe his argument is rational and objective you are re ed.

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    Thanks!

    I forgot that the word "fan" comes from the word "fanatic"

    Right. Unless you are an investor in SS&E why the do you give a about their p&l?

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    +1 for Holts calt

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    A team from South Texas that saw lightning strike twice in the lottery. Duncan's career is past the halfway point. Win now and worry later.

    The Knicks struck lightning in the lottery with Pat Ewing=0 les

    The Mavs struck lightning in the lottery with Dirk=0 les

    The 76ers struck lightning in the lottery with Barkley=0 les

    The Jazz struck lightning in the lottery with Malone=0 les

    The Rockers struck lightning in the lottery with Hakeem=2 les

    The Spurs struck lightning in the lottery with TD=4 les (and have a shot for number 5!)

    Yeah...I say perspective is gone out the window!!!

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    you cant compare Ewing/Dirk/Barkley/Malone to Hakeem/TD. come on. that's just silly

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    The Knicks struck lightning in the lottery with Pat Ewing=0 les

    The Mavs struck lightning in the lottery with Dirk=0 les

    The 76ers struck lightning in the lottery with Barkley=0 les

    The Jazz struck lightning in the lottery with Malone=0 les

    The Rockers struck lightning in the lottery with Hakeem=2 les

    The Spurs struck lightning in the lottery with TD=4 les (and have a shot for number 5!)

    Yeah...I say perspective is gone out the window!!!
    Dwyane Wade was the 5th pick in the 2003 Draft

    Kobe Bryant was the 13th pick in the 1996 Draft

    But obviously you need the #1 pick to even sniff a le.

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    Right. Unless you are an investor in SS&E why the do you give a about their p&l?
    Uh...because I understand it's a business and not fantasy basketball!

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    Uh...because I understand it's a business and not fantasy basketball!
    It's Holt's Cat's fantasy. Let him have it.

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    Uh...because I understand it's a business and not fantasy basketball!
    There are better businesses to be a fan of.

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    Dwyane Wade was the 5th pick in the 2003 Draft

    Kobe Bryant was the 13th pick in the 1996 Draft

    But obviously you need the #1 pick to even sniff a le.
    Thanks!

    My point was drafting in the lottery(not just the no. 1 pick)doesn't guarantee your franchise a championship!

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    There are better businesses to be a fan of.


    You're too much. Are you one of these guys who completely gives up when his team is down double digits in the 4th quarter? After all, hoping your team can win is for "homers" right?

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    There are better businesses to be a fan of.

    Well, I'm a fan of this team and I do understand there is a financial aspect to their business.

    And considering they've been the most winningest franchise in all of pro sports over the last 10 years...the FO have done a good job.

    Is it perfect...of course not! But nothing is!!

    However, the Spurs aren't the Atlanta Braves or the Buffalo Bills of basketball either.

    They've cashed in four times for it all and been right on the doorstep every since 1999.

    That's perspective!!

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    You're too much. Are you one of these guys who completely gives up when his team is down double digits in the 4th quarter?

    Nope. I remember rational, objective fans such as yourself leaving early in the 4th quarter on Memorial Day, 1999.

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    Well, I'm a fan of this team and I do understand there is a financial aspect to their business.

    And considering they've been the most winningest franchise in all of pro sports over the last 10 years...the FO have done a good job.

    Is it perfect...of course not! But nothing is!!

    However, the Spurs aren't the Atlanta Braves or the Buffalo Bills of basketball either.

    They've cashed in four times for it all and been right on the doorstep every since 1999.

    That's perspective!!
    You're only as good as you are today. I guess you enjoyed last season, with Pete cashing yet another lux tax check.

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    Nope. I remember rational, objective fans such as yourself leaving early in the 4th quarter on Memorial Day, 1999.
    Uh, nope can't say I have ever left a game early. It's funny that you're using "rational" and "objective" in a sarcastic way in this discussion. I guess you think the Front Office is also "rational and objective"....but not really. Keep dreamin puddy tat.

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    man. It took a while, a long ing while, but finally the time has come in which Ghost Writer is right.

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    You're only as good as you are today. I guess you enjoyed last season, with Pete cashing yet another lux tax check.
    Yep they were defending their championship and got to the WCF.

    Boy...that's a losing franchise!!!


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    Yep they were defending their championship and got to the WCF.

    Boy...that's a losing franchise!!!

    And lost out on #5.

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    For many/most Spurs fans, if Spurs make a conscious decision to not try to win now and decide to be mediocre in order to avoid spending more money, then they will not follow the team or support it except in a minor way.

    This is the consequence if for financial reasons the team decides not to try to obtain another big time player.

    Tim Duncan is in his 11th year in the league and is 33. Tony Parker is still in his prime. Manu is unreliable as a consistent third scorer and spark for the Spurs due to injury.

    If we don't get another big time player, we will not win another championship. We will get to the playoffs (probably), but will be eliminated in the second round.

    With Tim and Tony and sometimes Manu, we have a great chance to win a championship IF we get one more big time player.

    We may never have another chance to win a championship, certainly not as good a chance as we have now IF we get one more big time player.

    San Antonio is all about the Spurs. Our area loves the Spurs. However, if the owner isn't committed to going all out for a championship, then neither will the city nor the surrounding area be committed.

    Especially after this last injury, it is crystal clear that we won't win another championship without another big time player.

    I will always love My Spurs. I will always appreciate what they accomplished.

    However, will I follow them every day as closely as I do now, if I know that they consciously decided to abandon trying to win a championship? It is hard to say that I would. If they are losing very frequently and I know that the owner for financial reasons decided not to try to win when he could, then it is depressing.

    The team is at a crossroads now. And look at the Lakers.

    As it stands, no one believes that we can beat the Lakers. Standing pat is a recipe for disaster because of the unreliability of Manu, not to mention the lack of a second big. Putting those in combination means that if we don't obtain another big time scorer, we will not win another championship.

    We will be another team that also ran.

    Will they waste Tim and Tony's time together with an on and off Manu?

    There is a fork in the road. One way leads to mediocrity and a loss of fan support. The other way may lead to another championship.

    Which way will they go?

    I hope that they try extremely hard to obtain a big time player.

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    And lost out on #5.
    OH NO! They couldn't get their 5th championship in 9 years! Might as well move the franchise. You can't win every year puddy tat.

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    And lost out on #5.
    So by your logic...they are a losing franchise!! I didn''t know the Spurs had become the Clippers all of sudden!

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    When are the Spurs going to have a better time to add to the hardware? What is going to be remembered decades from now? That the Spurs made it under the lux tax threshold? That's stupid.

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