prediction: the Spurs request a short extension of the deadline...
Nothing more than a hunch, but it sounds as if they need to wait for Portland to make a move before trying their hand at one final low ball offer. Let's hope Portland trades for either Wallace or Jefferson in the next couple hours.
Who knows? You don't.
That doesn't even make sense. What will be remembered is that they have been the franchise with the best win% in the last decade and have 4 championships to go with it. Who knows what the future will bring. Again, you don't.What is going to be remembered decades from now? That the Spurs made it under the lux tax threshold? That's stupid.
Barring yet another lotto win, not for the forseeable future. The Spurs can't attract top tier free agents to sleepy little SA, even with the opportunity to play with TD, TP and Manu coming off a championship.
Yawn. They will be the footnote between the Kobe/Shaq Lakers and the Kobe/Bynum Lakers.That doesn't even make sense. What will be remembered is that they have been the franchise with the best win% in the last decade and have 4 championships to go with it. Who knows what the future will bring. Again, you don't.
First of all, even if everything was perfect this season...the Spurs didn't much money under the cap to play with and the bench players wasn't going to drum up lot of interest in a trade unless it was for an expiring contact or a team that was going to dump salary.
I could see if the Spurs had 5-8 million or more under the cap...then they should try to make a deal. That was never an option.
So there have some been unrealistic expectations from the beginning.
Also, to say the Spurs FO' aren't trying to win is unfair...especially when the track record has been very impressive. Have they made some mistakes..yes they have. But no one is perfect!
And I know the championship window is getting short. It happens.....no one is on top forever. But they won't hurt their franchise financially either....to make a desperate move for fantasy basketball reasons.
They have to decide in the off season do they want to resign Manu to an extension. Also, gear up to see how much they will for 2010 as well and maintain a very compe ive product on the court.
But for Spurs fans somehow suggest that this franchise has turned into the Clippers..is just ludicrous.
You actually have some fans arguing about 4 championships in 10 years when there are only three other franchises in the history of the NBA with more championships. Wow!!!
Can't happen. If it were possible to get an extension of the deadline JR Smith would have been a Spur.
Yeah...this is really what everything hinges on. I have never thought that obtaining Carter was possible, but it looks like Pritchard is doing everything he can to screw up the deal in asking for a pick. We could have an outside shot if a Wallace/Jefferson deal goes down.
Now you are writing history for the Spurs!!
Portland is just trying to hold everything up. They know everything hinges on them so they're going to try and make a deal at the very last minute and screw everyone else who has been waiting for them to do something. We just have to hope it backfires and the sellers get nervous that Portland won't shop with them.
The Boston Celtics were also a great franchise. They had won 11 les in 13 years. They won during the Bird McHale Parrish years as well.
However, they were mediocre at best afterwards.
People didn't think what a great franchise they were because they won in the past.
And the Celtics knew that.
The owners allowed the team to get KG and Ray Allen.
And the result is a championship. And they are one of the best teams in the league this year as well.
If the Spurs become mediocre, then the ancient past won't matter. What will matter is that the Spurs are mediocre = good enough to get into the playoffs, but a second tier team that will lose in the first or second round every year.
People consider what teams have in the current year. They don't look back on the accomplishments of the past.
If they aren't better than half of the league this year, than they aren't better than those teams. It's that simple. And what they did in the past doesn't make them great in the current year. So, we are comparing teams in the current year (which one is better this year).
There are a lot of teams better than the Spurs right now if Manu is seriously injured. In fact, at least 10 to 12 teams are better than the Spurs if Manu is seriously injured.
Sometime soon, that list might include the Clippers. But, right now, if the injury report is as serious about Manu as it sounds, then we have a lot of teams that we could put in that list.
Lakers, Hornets, Mavericks, Suns, Nuggets, Trailblazers, may all be better than the Spurs IF Manu is seriously injured. And this is not to mention the Cavs, the Celtics, and the Magic depending upon Jameer Nelson. And I am just starting.
Go break out the photo albums if you want to live in the past.
Some of us want to win another championship while we still have the chance with Tim and Tony because we know that we won't have that chance later.
! I didn't know a team needed the number 1 pick to win a le! Dammit!
Oh so why don't you go root for them Laker fan.Yawn. They will be the footnote between the Kobe/Shaq Lakers and the Kobe/Bynum Lakers.
Also..this team hasn't been mediocre.
This isn't a team trying to get into playoffs or win 50 games a year.
The Spurs did.
ROFL. Why don't you go punch one out to Peter Holt's mug?Oh so why don't you go root for them Laker fan.
Once. Unless you're suggesting David Robinson getting drafted #1 10 years earlier helped too. I guess if you're lucky enough to draft Tim Duncan, you get spoiled and think you need to draft the consensus #1 to have a chance at a le. Ask the 2004 Detroit team if they needed a #1 pick.
Would this be before or after you bust all over a picture of Kobe Bryant?ROFL. Why don't you go punch one out to Peter Holt's mug?
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You are wrong about that! The Celtics talk about their 17 les all the time. The Lakers talk about their les all the time as well.
I want to win another championship as well...but there is a reality that some fans don't want to get.
Championships aren't guarantee to any franchise.
Look at what happened to the Miami Heat after winning it in 2006. Now they are mediocre at best.
They sold everything for that championship and they are barely compe ive even with a healthy D-Wade.
There are cycles in pro sports...some teams will be at the top and then go through down cycles. That's life and you have realize that.
I'm not writing off the Spurs...and they put themselves in good financial position with Tim and Tony's contracts are the only ones on the books after 2010.
I'm gonna rest easy knowing this trade won't happen and that Laker fans like Holt's Cat don't know about basketball.
Again, you are writing history for the Spurs!!
In the past, they weren't mediocre.
However, without Manu Ginobili they are a mediocre team.
They would make the playoffs largely due to their current position in the standings and the fact that 16 teams make the playoffs.
Mediocre = make it to the playoffs as a second tier team and not get past the second round.
Who believes that they are a top tier team without Manu Ginobili?
Nobody realistic. Cavs, Celts, Lakers are in the top tier. the Magic are with a healthy Jameer Nelson whose injury isn't a persistent problem extending into the future.
Who believes that they will get to WCF without a healthy Manu Ginobili?
Again, nobody who is realistic. Part of the reason is that without a second big to guard the paint and rebound better, we don't defend nearly as well as we did in past years.
So, getting to the WCF without a healthy Manu Ginobili won't happen.
That makes them mediocre as I have defined it. And I don't think that is an unreasonable definition either. Again, probably 10 to 12 teams are better than the Spurs without a healthy Manu Ginobili.
Without a healthy Manu Ginobili will they win 50 games?
Maybe. Probably. but's it not as much of a lock as you seem to think. They haven't gotten out of the 50's with all 3 healthy most of the season.
So, they would be mediocre the rest of the year and for the foreseeable future if Manu Ginobili is seriously injured.
Blazers May Hang on to Raef's Contract
I wrote it today, and I'm going to say it again, I think the Blazers are only going to make a deal into the trade deadline if it's an absolute no-brainer.
The hunch here is that the Blazers realize they're in a position of leverage with Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract and are willing to hold that contract into the end of the season before making a deal with it. They can trade the contract prior to the end of their season.
It's also not lost that they'll collect nearly $5 million in insurance money if they do this because LaFrentz isn't able to play. Theoretically, this helps make up for some of the money lost with the return of Mr. Head Bop in Memphis.
Source inside the organization said the team feels like it can get a lopsided deal prior to the end of their season. This is a dramatic shift from where owner Paul Allen used to operate when he had Trader Bob running the show. And it's not the worst thing in the casino to wait as long as possible to act, see what's out there, when you're holding the best cards.
Still, is Portland a playoff team if they do nothing at the deadline?
I think they area. But they'll get beat up in the playoffs. And maybe the larger point here is that the Blazers don't realistically have a chance in at winning an NBA le this season so they're content to take the experience and try to leverage the most out of LaFrentz's contract possible.
I think the Blazers will try to steal more exceptions today, and maybe do something small today with Channing Frye or another piece that isn't contributing. But if you're looking for a biggie, brace for nothing.
If the Blazers dont trade for Carter.
I see the Spurs getting Carter for nothing basically.
The ball is in Portlands court.
Portland is just trying to run down the trade clock. They'll make a last second deal and screw everyone else by not leaving them enough time to put together other trades.
Perhaps. Possible payback for everyone laughing at their threat during Dariusgate.
POSTED: Feb. 19 -- 11:58 a.m.
Henry Abbott, TrueHoop: A plugged in source just told me that the Blazers are done, and will not be making any moves before the deadline.
Of course, a great offer at the last minute could change that, but that's considered unlikely.
What's this about? All that talk and no big move?
Part of this, I think, is that they have been driving a hard bargain. Another part of is that they are in a position to use Raef LaFrentz's cap room this summer, plus their new trade exception, when the market will be depressed thanks to the economy. Portland will likely be able to make either a lopsided trade or a free-agent signing.
Another part of it is that I'm convinced Portland gets into some trade talks as pure intelligence gathering.
By negotiating with the Nets about Vince Carter, the Bucks about Richard Jefferson, the Bulls about Luol Deng, the Kings about John Salmons, the Bobcats about Gerald Wallace -- and a zillion other such talks -- the Blazers get real insight into what everybody really wants. They get to fill in the the blanks about the 29 other team strategies. It's like seeing the other team's playbook.
Chad Ford: A Blazers source says the Blazers are now leaning strongly toward not making a major trade before the deadline. They have been in talks with the Nets, Bucks and Bobcats for days, but as of 11:30 a.m. they say nothing is hot.
Says one Blazers source, "I don't see a deal. We like our players long term. We don't want to mess with our chemistry."
The Blazers have looked at everyone from Gerald Wallace to Richard Jefferson to Vince Carter. But up until now, they haven't been able to come to a deal they're willing to do. They've wanted draft picks from the Bucks and Nets and have been unwilling to take back Nazr Mohammed in a deal with the Bobcats.
However, don't close the door completely. When pressed, the source conceded that if they got a better offer in the next few hours, it was still possible that they could make a deal.
....(fingers crossed).....
Alright Spurs, slap yourselves in the face and go get Carter damnt.
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