Extend Him at $10Mil+ A Year Till 2012 (Tim's Deal)
Ask him to take a Pay Cut to 2012 $5Mil Yr
Allow him to become a Free Agent and See him Leave?
ducks is stupid
It's damn impossible to say how much money Manu will be worth in 2010. It will badly depends if he stays healthy and age doesn't catch him up.
Given Manu's health troubles, Spurs best interest is to wait a little before offering an extension to Manu.
I didn't like the options, so I voted for free agency.
In free agency, be the top bidder, which I expect would be less than $10M 3 years.
I expect that the Spurs could make the same deal before free agency.
If Manu comes back in 3 weeks and plays well the rest of the season without any injury hiccups I can't see the Spurs not signing him to a 2 year extension. That extension still having some kind of injury protection for the Spurs.
I really can't believe the responses in here...
Manu has been one of the most overproducing player, leaving out rookie contracts, in the whole NBA for the last 5 years... but let's review the facts:
In 2005-2006-2007, all of those seasons, Manu was comfortably in the Top 5 at SG and Top 25 overall. But he didn't cut Top 70 by pay.
Last season (07-08), he was selected ALL-NBA, that means he was Top 15 in the league. He even was a low Top 10 in the MVP vote. He was the 2nd best at SG behind Kobe.
AND HE WASNT EVEN IN THE TOP 60 SALARIES!
THE SALARY OF THE 15TH PLAYER? 16 MILLIONS. SPURS GOT 50% OFF!!!
This season, 08-09, he is still Top 10 in PER but let's agree he has descended a step: Down to 4th in SG, behind Kobe, Wade, and Roy. Manu is closer to Roy than the rest of the pack to him (K Martin, J Johnson, Carter and Allen).
He is still in Top 20 overall. Don’t like him that much, want to be unfair? Let's say Top 25-30.
He is only 58th in pay. The 30th is making 14.5 million, 40% Off for Spurs again!
Don't overplay the injury card, all players have them. Going by games missed, Manu has missed around 70 in seven seasons that turn into 8 with playoffs. Thats 4 games a year over the average of players who play 25 mins or more...
All this people who are saying MLE level... do you know what MLE is? Do you really believe than in 18 MONTHS form now Manu is going to become AVERAGE? That there are gonna be 120-150 players better than him?
I am betting to you all, and I hope this thread doesn't vanish, Manu is still Top 30 overall by then and still Top 50 at the end of 2012 season...
Even keeping him at present salary would still be getting him a little on the cheap side, after getting thru all his prime at a RIDICULOUSLY LOW price (Sports Guy Bill Simmons labeled Manu's actual contract as the 3rd best in the whole NBA).
And you want to lowball him even more, saying Manu is going to be worth of only a MLE. Same as, let’s say, Luke Walton? Please.
I am relieved I think the people who really matter in this thing, Pop and RC in particular, are a lot smarter and fair than the prevalent view in this topic.
If I am wrong (and I really hope I'm not, because both the Spurs and Manu deserve that he retires as one) then I sincerely would like Manu to sign with some other contender, so you can truly appreciate missing him and all that you are taking for granted, while a lot of people in this thread are looking for places within their bodies to locate that MLE offer you presented to him.
Last edited by beck253; 02-20-2009 at 01:22 PM.
Extend Him at $10Mil+ A Year Till 2012 (Tim's Deal)
Or Beno Udrih
He should take less. 5mil a year though? I think that might be too low. As 10mil is too high. Depends on how severe his injuries are. You could say we are risking more nagging injuries for the next 3 years or w/e, but also you can't replace championship experience. This guy knows how to win, well when he's healthy atleast. He can change the way the game is going any minute. I think some of you guys easily forget. Anyone here have any sense of loyalty? He's earned the right to retire a spur if he is willing to concede paywise as he gets older.
It is if he is gonna be riddled with injuries the rest of his career.
Hence the need for some kind of performance based contract. If he's able to play, he gets his money. If not, the Spurs are protected.
Timmy, Tony, Bruce, and Manu. These players have earned retiring as Spurs. Manu is still a top 5 SG in the league RIGHT NOW on a bum leg. And he has proven that come playoff time, he can turn it up a notch above that.
Unless you're going to pick up Kobe Bryant in his place, I say you stick with the third best SG in the NBA.
BL
I agree...I truly believe that Manu is loyal to the Spurs...it's either San Antonio, or Argentina.
I love Manu,as a player and for the good character guy he seems to be off the court.
As some stated, he overproduced during his contract meaning he gave us more than what he earned (not by much though but still a bit). The right price is not what other teams (crappy ones let's say) would have paid him. This way of thinking just drags team down and produce some horrible contracts.
But as classy as the organisation is and as much as Manu deserves to retire as a Spur, the franchise is still all about business. I would really be surprised to see them give Manu a $10+M extension. He deserved more yes but that won't be a reason for overpaying him in 3years when he'll be performing less.
Let's say you like Ice creams and you found someone that sell awesome ones for cheap, but one day the quality decreases and the price increases a little. Are you going to pay w/o looking at your options or trying to get them for cheaper arguing that they aren't as good as they used to be? Or are you just going to say well it was my seller for a long time so I'm going to overpay a so so product.
It's not because it doesn't come directly from your wallet that he doesn't come from someone's.
in other news: the sky is blue
I'm guessing it's probably because when he's been healthy he's still been a top 20 NBA player. At 10 mil Manu would be a bargain, even at 25-28 mpg.
I say pay cut.
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