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I'd have made that deal, but if we're able to sign Rasheed this summer I think we're better off... not THIS year, obviously, but longer term.
Oh, and let's not forget players dominating the d-league = better than NBA role players.
I'd have made that deal, but if we're able to sign Rasheed this summer I think we're better off... not THIS year, obviously, but longer term.
if it's true that they weren't shopping them, I think that says a lot about how the Spurs feel about Mahinmi's ability once he does recover. It's also possible the Spurs don't want to give up Splitter because of a belief he will join them when he gets out of his contract, but it could be just as likely that they didn't offer it because no team wanted the contract of a player that's never coming over stateside.
we would have probably got a ship with Camby this year.
there goes our ship, wave goodbye
rasheed has soem real value dont think he could be had for cheap he has philly ties (think they would rather have Rasheed than Brand) ties to Larry Brown ...he would be nice working wih Okafor and Diaw ... OKC could use him as could Cleveland ...
Point is Rasheed will have some suitors ...
Charlotte and OKC suck and while Philly may or may not prefer Sheed to Brand that doesn't change the fact that they're still locked into him at big money for long years. Sheed will have options, but a 3 year offer from the Spurs at full MLE is going to be near the top of the list.
Read my previous post:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=109
I never said the Spurs would be better without Camby and I've pointed the positive contributions he can make. However, he's also a liability on other aspects of the game and that wipes out part of his positives.
As someone who has always thought the Nuggets were doing a good deal when they traded him for a 2nd round pick, I have a feeling that either people don't really watch Camby a lot or they believe his contribution to fantasy leagues is translated to the floor by the same proportion. He'd still help every contender, but not to a large extent.
Ironically, both Hill and Bowen were absolutely key to the win in Detroit last night. AI was going off on Parker and Hill's length and quickness really bothered AI a lot. Hill even blocked him once in one-on-one defense (and another time with some help). Then Bowen took his turn in the 4th and bothered AI's attempted 3 pointer to tie with 30 seconds or so to go, enough that he completely bricked it. And Bowen even made the key free throws to seal it at the end.
i don't doubt that there will be compe ion for his services, but i doubt he selects either of the teams you mentioned. he cares about winning too much to sign with any young teams that are still years away from even being mentioned as le contenders. and it doesn't make much sense for any of those teams to invest heavily in a guy who will be washed up by the time that they are ready to contend.
had for cheap? probably not, but the MLE for a soon-to-be 35 year old (who tops out at a 13/8 guy even when he is playing well) isn't cheap.
unless something else erupts this offseason, i'd be shocked if the Spurs aren't a major player in that sweepstakes.
... bye bye to our "Gasol trade"
The Spurs aren't winning with great team defense this year. They are winning with efficient offensive execution and, well, simply knowing how to play to win well (aka the system or corporate knowledge or whatever).
I'm not sure this bodes well for the postseason. Obviously they need everyone to be healthy and at near 100% to win it all.
Bonner's done very well this season, but he should be coming off the bench. Yes, the Spurs have won a le with a non-shotblocking big with a good perimeter stroke seeing heavy minutes next to Tim, but that was Robert Horry. Picking up a Joe Smith would be very nice heading into this postseason.
Yes, Bowen can still D up, but without a strong interior defense backing him up there's only so much he can do.
The Spurs are at a crossroads. They are no longer a top defensive unit. Now perhaps they can get back to that by finding that shotblocking, rebounding bigman to start alongside TD. Perhaps they don't get back to that and find another way to win it all, a way that is more dependent on offensive execution and playing smart. We shall see.
Picking up Camby would have put us on equal footing with LA.
Our interior defense and our rebounding would have instantly improved. We would have returned to be one of the best defensive teams in the NBA.
Next season, Rasheed Wallace would be a great pick-up. He can be a great post defender both one on one and team. He is a better rebounder than any big we have now other than Timmy. And he can stretch the floor.
We would have a great chance at a championship with Rasheed Wallace.
You guys who think sending Hill and same aging oldies for Camby are nitwits. It woulda been awesome for the Spurs and crap for the Clippers. Why do think the Clips owner nixxed it?? Even with Manu healthy which is an enormous if, we have a defensive deficit because the fact is we have no real starting center.
Cause hes a re ?
It was a done deal and he nixxed it at the VERY last minute, which means he had agreed to it and changed his mind.
Kurt Thomas is a good defensive center, and if they sign a big man such as Rasho the defensive bigs will improve.
Back away from the ledge a bit.
Something I found on the LA Clippers board at ESPN:
Rumor is Camby needs ear surgery
I read that he needs surgery to repair a torn eardrum...anyone else hear this? If true this is pretty sad given we'll never see our full team on the court this year. The ear is a pretty sensitive thing and helps coordinate balance so if he has surgery my guess is he'll be out for awhile
RE: On the post game radio show either Ralph or Brian said that he already had surgery on his ear to put tubes in. Supposedely his eardrum burst on one of the flights.
RE: If it is a burst ear drum, then no surgery is required. Nature will take its course.
As for putting tubes into his ears, not sure the reasoning there. If Marcus was sick with a head cold,which sounds likely, he would have had a huge amount of pressure building up behind his ear drum, hence it bursting. That is natures way of alleviating the pressure so the need for tubes seems redundant.
I can't imagine him missing too much time.( yes, forever the optimist).
Anyone else think that if something could possibly threaten his season because of his ear that this trade NOT going down is a blessing in disguise?
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/...=4303990&lid=2
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...4&postcount=29
Same day recovery just FYI.
i agree. we've been needing a back up PG for years....we finally find a gem in Hill who has many years ahead of him....just to trade him for something short term...I'm glad it didnt work out that way
Are u kidding????
Starting C >>>>>>>>>>>>> Backup PG (any time)
Especially, when the C = 11.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.4 BPG
And more importatly, Camby would be the best Big man next to TD since DR retired. It would allow the Spurs go back to the championship formula of twin tower D.
That something is more important than fostering potential at this point. People seem to forget that we need to win now. Timmy isn't getting any younger. Once he's gone, the train ride comes to an end.
Bowen is useless against Bryant. You forget how Bowen got lit up by Bryant last year?
Gee, good take. We keep forgetting that the NBA decided to contract the Playoffs and make them only one round this season.
Bryant was out of his mind last year. I think come back to earth a little this playoffs.
Besides, as you should recall, the exact point of game 1 where Kobe and the Lakers took control was when Bowen was brought OUT of the game.
You should also note that NO Spur has shot better from 3-pt range against the Lakers than Bowen.
But you won't. You'll continue to bring the same tired "Bowen sucks" takes that we've come to expect from you.
Carry on.
But I thought only a superstar could help and he would win it all?
Ginobili for carter!!!!!
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