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    If you don't want to hear our ing or hear excuses how about you don't come back to the forum? Wow! There's a thought. But I don't expect you have any thoughts.

    Oh and it's one thing to beat the Spurs and get to the finals, but its another thing to get get your own ass handed to you in the finals. Don't think us Spur fans don't enjoy watching the Lakers lose even if they did beat the Spurs.
    NBA Fan 101:

    If Fan #1's team (spurs) season is ended by Fan #2's team (lakers) then Fan #1 should STFU!

    @ fans who try to justify their teams beatdown by another teams victory. That's like not being able to your wife but being content that the next man ed her. As long as she was ed, right?

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    and both years the Spurs were our doormats to those Finals...wanna try that one again, son?
    Please! You seem to not answer how your team got their asses handed to them! What's your excuse when you had Karl Malone, Shaq, Rapist & the Mitten! 2008 loaded with your collusion trade of Gasol, Rapist and still got your asses handed to you!

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    If you don't want to hear our ing or hear excuses how about you don't come back to the forum? Wow! There's a thought. But I don't expect you have any thoughts.

    Oh and it's one thing to beat the Spurs and get to the finals, but its another thing to get get your own ass handed to you in the finals. Don't think us Spur fans don't enjoy watching the Lakers lose even if they did beat the Spurs.
    Sure you'd be happy to see PJax and the Lakers lose, because somebody else would be handling what Pop and the Spurs couldn't do. You have never repeated as champions and we are the reason why. Phil 4, Pop 1... I'd be happy to see a team that owned me lose in the finals too

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    @ fans who try to justify their teams beatdown by another teams victory. That's like not being able to your wife but being content that the next man ed her. As long as she was ed, right?
    Oh yeah its exactly like that

    Oh and I'm not "justifying" anything. If the Spurs lost, than they lost. I saw the Lakers lose and it was great even if the Spurs couldnt' beat them. Maybe I will use an actual relevant analogy instead of the one you used. It's like Sun fans. I know they hate the Spurs, and were probably happy that the Spurs lost last year to the Lakers, well because thats how much they hate them.

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    We are the 2009 NBA Champions that's right

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    Sure you'd be happy to see PJax and the Lakers lose, because somebody else would be handling what Pop and the Spurs couldn't do. You have never repeated as champions and we are the reason why. Phil 4, Pop 1... I'd be happy to see a team that owned me lose in the finals too
    Ok good so you got my point.

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    Oh yeah its exactly like that

    Oh and I'm not "justifying" anything. If the Spurs lost, than they lost. I saw the Lakers lose and it was great even if the Spurs couldnt' beat them. Maybe I will use an actual relevant analogy instead of the one you used. It's like Sun fans. I know they hate the Spurs, and were probably happy that the Spurs lost last year to the Lakers, well because thats how much they hate them.
    That's the difference...we don't hate you guys (at least I don't). You are good rivals and ones that we own. The suns fans hate the spurs because they can't beat them, just like you hate the Lakers because the Spurs can't beat them--that and the fact that we're about to overshadow the greatest era of Spurs basketball. It's not healthy to hate my son

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    Ok good so you got my point.
    Hey if you need validation from another team's success than more power to ya I guess. I'm content with both are successes and our failures because I know the Lakers will always be back

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    Last time I looked, Lakers lost last year and KOBE cried(boo hoo hoo).
    Did you forget? So stop bragging until you actually do win a championship this year. Also, if you hate the spurs so much why are you so interested in this Spur site? HHMMM...is it because we're in your heads...

    Even Joey Crawford won't save your team this playoff year. SPURS in 09"

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    That's the difference...we don't hate you guys (at least I don't). You are good rivals and ones that we own. The suns fans hate the spurs because they can't beat them, just like you hate the Lakers because the Spurs can't beat them--that and the fact that we're about to overshadow the greatest era of Spurs basketball. It's not healthy to hate my son
    Last time I looked, Lakers lost last year and KOBE cried(boo hoo hoo).
    Did you forget? So stop bragging until you actually do win a championship this year. Also, if you hate the spurs so much why are you so interested in this Spur site? HHMMM...is it because we're in your heads...

    Even Joey Crawford won't save your team this playoff year. SPURS in 09"
    PM me if you're interested in reading lessons...I'll give you a good rate

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    That's the difference...we don't hate you guys (at least I don't). You are good rivals and ones that we own. The suns fans hate the spurs because they can't beat them, just like you hate the Lakers because the Spurs can't beat them--that and the fact that we're about to overshadow the greatest era of Spurs basketball. It's not healthy to hate my son
    No its easy to hate the Lakers because they are the big market team, and everyone wants to see them win. You also have Mr. arrogance as the leading face of your team. My point was that whenever you have a team beat your own team you don't mind seeing them lose. Like the Mavs in 06 when they beat us. Spur fans enjoyed thier meltdown as well. It's just funny that teams play so hard against the Spurs and forget there are other games to be played. But I guess if you can't win the championship- gang up on the last team you beat to make yourself feel better as fans of a team that came in second. Ok I'm done because it's not easy trying to argue with the Laker fans who refuse to use logic.

    PS. I'm a woman, and also don't worry about my health.

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    Hey if you need validation from another team's success than more power to ya I guess. I'm content with both are successes and our failures because I know the Lakers will always be back
    what?

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    DeadlyDynasty put it best. Laker fans don't hate the Spurs. It's kind of hard to hate a team that you've owned for the past two decades.

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    deadlydynasty put it best. Laker fans don't hate the spurs. It's kind of hard to hate a team that david stern owned for the past two decades.
    fify

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    Bird's Celtics are considered a dynasty? I disagree. They were a great team but I would not call them dynastic, most especially since they were unable to repeat. By definition, Dynasty is the dominance or rule of one family (or team in this case) over a particular era. The 80's belonged to the Lakers: Five les, 8 appearances (including a repeat). The 60's Celtics were a dynasty (the greatest in sports history), as were the 90s Bulls. The late 40s and most of 50s belong to the Minneapolis Lakers. The 70s were a grab bag of teams, nobody owning that decade.

    In the 00's, it's a wash, but that'll be a moot point when LA takes #4 in 6 appearances during a 9-year span. All those teams mentioned above, including this decade's Lakers, have defended their le. The Spurs have had 4 chances to defend their le but could never play with the bullseye on their back
    And somehow you concluded that repeating is a requisite qualifier? Sorry you fail badly. If anything your definition leads one to conclude that an extended period of time is needed to evaluate a body of work rather than a short one.

    A hypothetical for you. If the Spurs were to win this year, that would make it 4 out of 7. Is 4 out of 7 every other year < 3 straight? You used the word era as part of your definition above. So is an era more closely approximated by a 3 year span or 7 years?

    Just curious......

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    No its easy to hate the Lakers because they are the big market team, and everyone wants to see them win. You also have Mr. arrogance as the leading face of your team. My point was that whenever you have a team beat your own team you don't mind seeing them lose. Like the Mavs in 06 when they beat us. Spur fans enjoyed thier meltdown as well. It's just funny that teams play so hard against the Spurs and forget there are other games to be played. But I guess if you can't win the championship- gang up on the last team you beat to make yourself feel better as fans of a team that came in second. Ok I'm done because it's not easy trying to argue with the Laker fans who refuse to use logic.

    PS. I'm a woman, and also don't worry about my health.
    Ok, let's break this down...
    1. They forgot there were other games because "they played the Spurs so hard" The Spurs were done in 5 games and we were beaten by the better team. Boston was the best team in the NBA wire-to-wire that year and they exposed our lack of rebounding and interior D (something SA was unable to do).
    2. "gang up on the last team you beat to make yourself feel better as fans of a team that came in second." WTF are you talking about? If you don't like the back and forth banter than don't participate. How can we gang up on you ON YOUR OWN SITE?!
    3. "Ok I'm done because it's not easy trying to argue with the Laker fans who refuse to use logic."--don't run away from defending your asinine comments with, "ok i'm done, but i'll give one last parting shot." Please explain the logic of which you speak, because you clearly aren't using any in this argument.

    "PS. I'm a woman"--If I'd have known that last week I would've sent you a custom Lakers jersey for Valentine's Day.

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    By definition, Dynasty is the dominance or rule of one family (or team in this case) over a particular era.
    This is why everything is so subject to interpretation. We can sit here all day with arguments about who is right and at the end of the day its in the eye of the beholder.

    Everyone says that repeating matters...therefore the Spurs aren't a dynasty. Is the Spurs all-time best winning percentage over the last 10 years with 4 les sprinkled in considered a dominant era?

    Laker fans say that the Shaq/Kobe Lakers were a dynasty, but if we go by the definition is four years really an era of dominance? How long is an era? Could the Lakers now and the Lakers then be considered two separate eras because the Lakers didn't make the playoffs in '05 and got booted in the first round in the two following seasons?

    Lots of questions...and the answers will always be weighted by whichever side a fan is standing on. This is probably the biggest reason I don't bother with debates like this, because no one is right.

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    Forgive me, I have to remind myself sometimes that I post on a spurs forum. Next time I'll use smaller, monosyllabic words so you can understand.

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    And somehow you concluded that repeating is a requisite qualifier? Sorry you fail badly. If anything your definition leads one to conclude that an extended period of time is needed to evaluate a body of work rather than a short one.

    A hypothetical for you. If the Spurs were to win this year, that would make it 4 out of 7. Is 4 out of 7 every other year < 3 straight? You used the word era as part of your definition above. So is an era more closely approximated by a 3 year span or 7 years?

    Just curious......
    In your own, misguided, biased opinion.

    Better Hypothetical..."if the Spurs would have repeated any of the FOUR CHANCES THEY HAD TO DO SO, would they be considered a dynasty?"

    an emphatic yes. Defend your le, show that you can play with the bullseye on your back.

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    This is why everything is so subject to interpretation. We can sit here all day with arguments about who is right and at the end of the day its in the eye of the beholder.

    Everyone says that repeating matters...therefore the Spurs aren't a dynasty. Is the Spurs all-time best winning percentage over the last 10 years with 4 les sprinkled in considered a dominant era?

    Laker fans say that the Shaq/Kobe Lakers were a dynasty, but if we go by the definition is four years really an era of dominance? How long is an era? Could the Lakers now and the Lakers then be considered two separate eras because the Lakers didn't make the playoffs in '05 and got booted in the first round in the two following seasons?

    Lots of questions...and the answers will always be weighted by whichever side a fan is standing on. This is probably the biggest reason I don't bother with debates like this, because no one is right.
    It's an endless debate man, but I love talking about it nonetheless cause it gets both sides riled up. Also doesn't hurt that I'm working dispatch today and getting paid to argue this

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    IMHO in order to be considered a dynasty the minimum requirement must be that your team was at least the best team of that decade.

    The 90's Bulls can say that, the Showtime Lakers can say that, the Russell Celtics can say that.

    The '00 3-peat Lakers can't say that and neither can the Spurs. There are two seasons left to determine who is the team of THIS decade and ultimately which team we can consider to be a dynasty.

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    DeadlyDynasty put it best. Laker fans don't hate the Spurs. It's kind of hard to hate a team that you've owned for the past two decades.
    Ok but I spend no time at a Suns board or another team's board that we have beaten before. so something's going on here

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    It's an endless debate man, but I love talking about it nonetheless cause it gets both sides riled up. Also doesn't hurt that I'm working dispatch today and getting paid to argue this
    I have done it for years now...flipped it on its head and back over again. I guess I'm just burnt out.

    I also get paid on the regular to post on ST.

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    Forgive me, I have to remind myself sometimes that I post on a spurs forum. Next time I'll use smaller, monosyllabic words so you can understand.
    no I understand. I just meant that I don't feel like that at all, but facial expressions and other reactions get lost through the internets. Speaking of being on a spurs forum, well will the obession stop and when will you leave?

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