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  1. #51
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    The Mavs were the victims of poorly-officiated games in 3 and 5, but they also had plenty of chances to win the series outright. They couldn't do it. It's frustrating to think about how close they came and being on the short end of the stick, whistle-wise, for two of those losses. But they also were in great position and couldn't get it done.

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    Actually, 6 wasn't a great night for the refs either, but 3 and 5 were especially bad. The Kings went through the same thing in their series against the Lakers. They lost a pivotal game that was reffed terribly.

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    You can scream and moan about Games 3 and 5 if you're a Mavs fan, but they had an inexcusable no-show in Game 4 to let Miami back in and tie the series up at 2 games apiece.

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    That picture is misleading, check the actual video I don't think he grabbed his arm. Depth perception doesn't really show in that picture, Although it looks like he grabbed him from the side
    It doesn't really matter what the video shows Devin Harris doing, since the foul was called on Dirk. It's Dirk's actions that are pertinent. Dirk does swing his arms down as Wade makes his final approach to the basket, but he doesn't foul Wade or make contact. Salvatore made an anticipatory call, and he butchered it.

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    It doesn't really matter what the video shows Devin Harris doing, since the foul was called on Dirk. It's Dirk's actions that are pertinent. Dirk does swing his arms down as Wade makes his final approach to the basket, but he doesn't foul Wade or make contact. Salvatore made an anticipatory call, and he butchered it.
    Laker fan also pointed out that he grabbed Wade after the whistle to prevent an and 1. Some details of that series are fuzzy to me because the only thing we could do as Mav fans is try to block it out of your head.

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    The Cheat le shouldn't be justified by the fact that the Mavs blew opportunities. The goal of basketball is simply to score more points than the other team, when it becomes score more points than the other team, and then score another 3-4 to offset bad officiating, that's not basketball, that's bull .

    3,5,6 tarnished by refs... decided by 2 points, 1 point, and 3 points. We can point back to Dirk's missed FT, J-Blunts missed FT's, or the Mavs poor shooting games in 5 and 6... but bottom line is BS whistles. Yeahhhh we could've made a few more shots, rebounded a few more rebounds, protected the basketball a little more, but that's moot. You're not asked to play a flawless brand of basketball, just to score more points than the other team 4 times out of 7, which the Mavs did if not for whistles giving the Cheat 5 points per game in 5/6.

    Game 5, Mavs up 1 after a ridiculously tough Dirk shot, D-Whistle the primadonna wheelchair who doesn't deserve his ring and is a sex addict ends teh game with 2 undeserved FT's.

    pretty big mutha in deal. The difference between 3-2 and 2-3 is unbelievable. The win rate of game 5 winners is by no fluke over 80%.

    46 FT's in final 2 games for D-Whistle the primadonna wheelchair . 2 games. 46 free throws. That's 23 per game, that's absurd. The Mavs have nevre been known for elite perimeter defense, but 23 FT per game over 2 games? Give me a ing break. 16.3 for the series too, highly absurd.

    And for those who say get over it, our beloved fanbase has gotten over it, but that doesn't mean we can't whine about it. I mean, we're talkin about a mutha in championship here, this ain't no regular season game.

    And we're talking about our beloved Dirk's legacy being permanently tarnished. If Salvatore doesn't bail out the Cheat in game 5, that shot over Shaq by Dirk would go down in NBA Finals history as one of the best shots ever.

    D-Whistle didn't even have a defining shot in that series, just bull free throws.

    Conclusions:

    1. The Mavs should've won it all in 2003, but an injury to our beloved Fin costing us HCA over the spurs, along with Dirk's injury and Kerr's bull shots doomed us. Hindsight of course says "run and gun" can't win a championship, but that's all it is, hindsight. Assuming Dirk's injury, Finley's injury, and Kerr's fluke shots don't happen, run and gun Mavs would've played a 49 win Net team in the Finals. Who you got in that?
    2. The Mavs should've won it all in 2006 but the refs ed the Mavs over
    3. The Mavs should've won it all in 2007 but the Warriors starting hitting bull halfcourt circus H-O-R-S-E shots and one legged 3 pointers.

    But alas, we must cope with drugs.

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    You can scream and moan about Games 3 and 5 if you're a Mavs fan, but they had an inexcusable no-show in Game 4 to let Miami back in and tie the series up at 2 games apiece.
    That just means our boys in blue should've won the series 4-1 or 4-2 instead of 4-0.

    A team is "allowed" 1 "off" game in a 7 game series really. Nobody will bring up the Lakers no show in game 3 v the Spurs last year, or the Warriors no show v the Mavs in game 2, or the Spurs no shows in games 1,2, and 5 v the Hornets last year. Or , the Spurs losing by 30ish in game 4 v the Pistons in the '05 Finals (pretty much exact same situation, were up 2-0, no show in game 4 makes it 2-2), and so on.. Cause all those teams ended up winning their respective series, in spite of a dud game.

    Mutha the Cheat

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    Give it a rest all. The Mavs folded after game 3. Blew that one big time.
    This guy just starting . Another depressed Cuban fan.

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    I agree Dallas got hosed in that series. I remember having a weird feeling when the Heat won the championship thinking this is one of the worst teams I've ever seen to win a championship. It never felt like they were a championship caliber team. But yeah, Wade got so many calls it was ridiculous.

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    That's cause they are. We're talking about a team that won a meager 52 regular season games, wasn't elite offensively or defensively, and started Antoine ing Walker and Jason Williams. I repeat, Antoine mutha in Walker and Jason mutha in Williams.

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    Championship caliber or not, they won.

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    "What am I saying to you right now, dog? Please, don't come off on me right now because I'm going to come off on you, and I'm not in a great mood right now. Get out of my face, man. Get out of my face."


    Remember Josh Howard after game 5. This was when the reporter was talking to him about the time out he took.

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    That's cause they are. We're talking about a team that won a meager 52 regular season games, wasn't elite offensively or defensively, and started Antoine ing Walker and Jason Williams. I repeat, Antoine mutha in Walker and Jason mutha in Williams.
    In the end what does it say under 2006 NBA champions??? Yea you know what we got away with some calls but damn in that spurs series you guys benefited all series from the refs. But still complained like little es.
    Time goes on . How do you think cane fans felt after they got hosed against the buckeyes in the national championship. we were pissed. BUT TIME GOES ON. Besides what happened in 2007?

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    Dwayn Fade travelled before harris fouled him. what a biased fan of miami cheat. video shows it far more clearly than a faded pic.
    Hate on it.

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    Why the did you bring this up...it brings nothing but pan to Mavs fans

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    Every game the Mavs lose were rigged.
    I always find it amusing that the same people that cry about the whistles Wade got thought Dirk deserved all the calls he got against San Antonio and Phoenix.

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    I always find it amusing that the same people that cry about the whistles Wade got thought Dirk deserved all the calls he got against San Antonio and Phoenix.
    Dirk's calls against San Antonio came from the fact that your PF couldn't guard Dirk straight up and you had to resort to guarding him with a 6'7 wing in Bowen. Even with that said, Dirk still may have gotten some calls, but it doesn't even compare. Wade was getting phantom whistles on jumpers with no one within 10 feet. , even worse than the whistles was the fact that our guys had to basically not play defense and just sag way off and play passively for fear of more phantom whistles. I think your perception of that series is a little off because Spur fans were absolutely livid at the time and wanted to see the Mavs lose at all costs.

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    Dirk's calls against San Antonio came from the fact that your PF couldn't guard Dirk straight up and you had to resort to guarding him with a 6'7 wing in Bowen. Even with that said, Dirk still may have gotten some calls, but it doesn't even compare. Wade was getting phantom whistles on jumpers with no one within 10 feet. , even worse than the whistles was the fact that our guys had to basically not play defense and just sag way off and play passively for fear of more phantom whistles. I think your perception of that series is a little off because Spur fans were absolutely livid at the time and wanted to see the Mavs lose at all costs.
    I think Mavfan perception was way off because they were used to getting the benefit of the doubt every single time in the earlier rounds. As for the phantom fouls on Wade, that crap has been going on since 2000 when the NBA changed the defensive rules and decided you couldn't play any defense on guards .

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    Fans on the other boards can admit it, why can't you?

    Nothing like the 06 Finals has been seen before or since. Pierce was actually allowed defense on Kobe in last years finals, and Kobe is better than Wade

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    Dirk's calls against San Antonio came from the fact that your PF couldn't guard Dirk straight up and you had to resort to guarding him with a 6'7 wing in Bowen. Even with that said, Dirk still may have gotten some calls, but it doesn't even compare. Wade was getting phantom whistles on jumpers with no one within 10 feet. , even worse than the whistles was the fact that our guys had to basically not play defense and just sag way off and play passively for fear of more phantom whistles. I think your perception of that series is a little off because Spur fans were absolutely livid at the time and wanted to see the Mavs lose at all costs.
    It's kind of hard to guard a guy straight up when you get fouled out when he steps on your foot or scores 21 of his 27 points in a game from the free throw line. I just love how it's justifiable when the Mavs are on the winning side but not when they're on the losing side.

    By the way, I'm curious as to how it's the fault of the officials that Dirk couldn't hit a free throw to put that game away against Miami. He got the call; did they need to shoot it for him too?

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    It's kind of hard to guard a guy straight up when you get fouled out when he steps on your foot or scores 21 of his 27 points in a game from the free throw line. I just love how it's justifiable when the Mavs are on the winning side but not when they're on the losing side.

    By the way, I'm curious as to how it's the fault of the officials that Dirk couldn't hit a free throw to put that game away against Miami. He got the call; did they need to shoot it for him too?
    He missed a free throw. But you can't pick out mistakes he made in that series and somehow think that justifies us getting hosed.

    As far as Dirk's step on the foot? You can't pick out one questionable call and compare it to a whole series of absolute obvious bull .

    Anyway, I refuse to be part of this cripple fight any longer. If you don't see how ed up that series was, you obviously didn't watch that series very closely, if at all, you were too busy masturbating to the scoreboard without seeing what was actually going on. I can't help you there

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    Fans on the other boards can admit it, why can't you?

    Nothing like the 06 Finals has been seen before or since. Pierce was actually allowed defense on Kobe in last years finals, and Kobe is better than Wade
    Kobe's never had a playoffs like Wade did in '06. Wade got incredibly hot and absolutely murdered the Pistons the series before. It's pathetic that Mav fans think Wade was just a free throw shooter in the 06 playoffs.

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    As far as Dirk's step on the foot? You can't pick out one questionable call and compare it to a whole series of absolute obvious bull .
    It wasn't one questionable call. Dirk getting the call for stepping on Duncan's foot handed the Mavs game 3. Dirk getting the foul call when Bowen breathed on him at the end of game 4 stole that one from the Spurs.

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    Ahhh geez, not this again. Last time I checked, the Heat still had more points than the Mavs. Therefore, they won those games and the series. You can dice it. Slice it. Massage it. Grind it. Fry it. Sautee it. Etc. It don't matter. The final scores do not lie.

    Thread.

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    By Dirk? Dirk got called for that foul. You're saying it's clearly a foul by Dirk? What Devin Harris is doing in that picture is irrelevant, he didn't get called for .
    it wuld have been a foul either way, so does it matter who its on? (if dirk fouled out i understand)

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