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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    what other noises do explosives make, besides explosions?
    What exactly cons utes an explosion? What you simple-mindedly refer to as an "explosive" is only one of many things that can cause an explosion, and many more things can create an explosive sound. If a plane hits the side of a building, that's an explosion. If the fire blows the doors off the elevators at the bottom floor of the building, that's an explosion, if load bearing members suddenly fail, that's an explosion. If tempered glass windows are stressed to the breaking point, they explode. An overloaded generator can explode, as can anything with any potential energy in it, whether it's chemical, mechanical, electrical, or gravitational.

    By the way, isn't this guy's testimony about the time the building was hit by the plane and NOT when the building collapsed? Why would they be setting off demolition explosives an hour beforehand?

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    I think I finally figured out ChumpStumper, he will ask you a barrage of questions that are hard to answer and if you get any wrong he is automatically right.

    Here is an example of questions any fool can ask and may be hard to answer.


    What is oxygen, why can't we see it? If there was a Jesus then how come he doesn't have a face book?

    How do you know the sun is real have you ever been there?

    What is so great about the great wall of china?
    how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

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    When was that picture taken? Since you guys would rather change the subject than deal with the holes in your theories, let's just keep whacking whatever mole you decide to pop up.

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    When Chump can explain why sulfur residue was found on the WTC steel beams then i might chime in on this one sided debate.




    Those were cuts made during cleanup.

    This has been explained to you many times.

    In very simple terms.

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    What name do you recommend?
    mouse.
    Pardon me does your birth certificate say ChumpDumper?
    No.
    Don't lecture others on screen names that's just another spin you use to avoid the truth. I don't need respect I only seek the truth, only those who live a lie have the burden or need to seek respect from others so they may legitimize there existence on earth.
    So tell us all what you think really happened on 9/11.

    We're waiting for your truth.

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    I think I finally figured out ChumpStumper, he will ask you a barrage of questions that are hard to answer and if you get any wrong he is automatically right.

    Here is an example of questions any fool can ask and may be hard to answer.


    What is oxygen, why can't we see it? If there was a Jesus then how come he doesn't have a face book?

    How do you know the sun is real have you ever been there?

    What is so great about the great wall of china?
    how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?
    Here is my one question to you:

    What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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    What exactly cons utes an explosion? What you simple-mindedly refer to as an "explosive" is only one of many things that can cause an explosion, and many more things can create an explosive sound. If a plane hits the side of a building, that's an explosion. If the fire blows the doors off the elevators at the bottom floor of the building, that's an explosion, if load bearing members suddenly fail, that's an explosion. If tempered glass windows are stressed to the breaking point, they explode. An overloaded generator can explode, as can anything with any potential energy in it, whether it's chemical, mechanical, electrical, or gravitational.

    By the way, isn't this guy's testimony about the time the building was hit by the plane and NOT when the building collapsed? Why would they be setting off demolition explosives an hour beforehand?
    so now the plane flew into the sub-basement? Pathetic.

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    When was that picture taken? Since you guys would rather change the subject than deal with the holes in your theories, let's just keep whacking whatever mole you decide to pop up.
    It's odd because he keeps bringing the same picture up over and over again, hoping we have forgotten his doing it or hoping we forgot the answers we have given him over and over and over again.

    The proverbial definition of insanity.

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    What exactly cons utes an explosion? What you simple-mindedly refer to as an "explosive" is only one of many things that can cause an explosion, and many more things can create an explosive sound. If a plane hits the side of a building, that's an explosion. If the fire blows the doors off the elevators at the bottom floor of the building, that's an explosion, if load bearing members suddenly fail, that's an explosion. If tempered glass windows are stressed to the breaking point, they explode. An overloaded generator can explode, as can anything with any potential energy in it, whether it's chemical, mechanical, electrical, or gravitational.

    By the way, isn't this guy's testimony about the time the building was hit by the plane and NOT when the building collapsed? Why would they be setting off demolition explosives an hour beforehand?
    to prime the building and scare the out of people. That's why they call it terror.

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    Why would an explosion go off in the basement, just before the plane hit? Why would this info be covered up? That is guilty demeanor, a well established legal principle.
    so why isn't anyone in court?

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    to prime the building and scare the out of people. That's why they call it terror.
    The jumbo jet's flying into the building and exploding did that just fine on its own, thank you very much.

    No planted basement explosives necessary.

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    so why isn't anyone in court?
    They were.

    Willie Rodriguez was, in fact, a plaintiff in a suit against the Bush administration.

    He lost his case.

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    are you a lawyer? How do you know that the demolition was illegal? Maybe a terrorist was hiding down there with a bomb, and it went off when a good samaritan tried to stop it.
    the demolition was neither legal or illegal because there wasn't a demolition.

    Are you mental?

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    Those were cuts made during cleanup.
    That is pure bull . until you at least admit your wrong on this one photo you don't deserve any of my precious debate time. That photo was hours after the collapes clean up was days later.
    And why in the would someone craw through all that rubble to trim that one beam and then put all the rubble around it back? Your a joke Chump and your just upset the truth is beginning to surface and your going to look like the misguided fool you portray in this forum.





    This has been explained to you many times.

    In very simple terms.
    Oh I get it when you present something its final, when we present something its wrong and needs to be corrected nice scam you got going on in here.

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    The jumbo jet's flying into the building and exploding did that just fine on its own, thank you very much.

    No planted basement explosives necessary.
    The plane hit the 95th floor, yet the explosion was below Rodriguez, and was before the plane hit.

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    the demolition was neither legal or illegal because there wasn't a demolition.

    Are you mental?
    You don't know that for sure, if you did you would be on every talk show in America, so before you call someone out or use old 80s type insults at least do your homework.

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    The plane hit the 95th floor, yet the explosion was below Rodriguez, and was before the plane hit.
    There is no way of proving Rodriguez could tell when the plane hit, so he can't tell when an explosion happened in relation to the plane impact.

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    so now the plane flew into the sub-basement? Pathetic.
    So you do exactly what you blame CD for doing? Classic.

    Do you realize that there are elevator shafts that run up and down the building? When the planes hit the towers, the burning jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts. That French camera crew that was in the tower showed that when they were in the lobby.

    It's really not your fault that you have to reduce something so complex into simple slices in order to attempt to comprehend it, hence the term "simple minded. What's unforgivable is your stubborn refusal to even follow elementary logical concepts that might sway you from your hugely flawed position.

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    to prime the building and scare the out of people. That's why they call it terror.
    So hijacking a plane full of people and flying it into a building at 550 miles per hour isn't terrifying enough for you? How exactly does packing a little bit of TNT in the basement scare anyone worse than that? The people in that building had seen that before; considering the reaction from the first plane crash in relation to the second an explosion in the basement wouldn't have phased them a bit.

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    So you do exactly what you blame CD for doing? Classic.

    Do you realize that there are elevator shafts that run up and down the building? When the planes hit the towers, the burning jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts. That French camera crew that was in the tower showed that when they were in the lobby.
    And it didn't stop there is traveled down the basement through the sewers and made its way to WTC7 where it weakened the steel beams and caused another collapse.

    This place is turning into romper room on mountain dew im out.............

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    Well I saw in the tle "William Rodriguez Vindicated by Newly Released 9/11 Commission Notes.
    great. So William Rodriguez is not lying in saying that he heard explosions.

    How does that equal controlled demolition being an absolute certainty?

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    How exactly does packing a little bit of TNT in the basement scare anyone worse than that?
    It wasn't TNT -- it was an incendiary device that acted just like vaporized jet fuel. Remember, the victims Willie helped were burned -- explosives that would actually weaken the structure of the towers would have blown them all apart.

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    And it didn't stop there is traveled down the basement through the sewers and made its way to WTC7 where it weakened the steel beams and caused another collapse.

    This place is turning into romper room on mountain dew im out.............
    Why don't you just tell us what you think really happened on 9/11?

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    How can you compare a regular demolition to one that is trying to be concealed, are you really that naive or are you just acting this way for our enjoyment?
    why would they try to conceal it?

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    So you do exactly what you blame CD for doing? Classic.

    Do you realize that there are elevator shafts that run up and down the building? When the planes hit the towers, the burning jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts. That French camera crew that was in the tower showed that when they were in the lobby.

    It's really not your fault that you have to reduce something so complex into simple slices in order to attempt to comprehend it, hence the term "simple minded. What's unforgivable is your stubborn refusal to even follow elementary logical concepts that might sway you from your hugely flawed position.
    What's your evidence.

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