Lakers are 35-9 v 2-9 in West since Gasol trade

[der Kaiser]

4-4 on gamewinners makes Mason's shot vs. the Lakers a fluke shot

For real though, not diminishing the win or anything but San Antonio sorta tripped into their points at the end while the Lakers executed their offense without much resistance.

[anonoftheinternets]

Lame pointless thread, see u in the playoffs....

[Obstructed_View]

Wow, are the Mavs so bad that their fans are now going out of their way to toot the Lakers' horn?

[TheMACHINE]

[QUOTE=Sec24Row7;3136474]You're an injury away from losing in the second round.

[QUOTE]

and ur team will prob lose in the 2nd round even without injury. whats your point?

[Sec24Row7]

You're probably right. Spurs deserve no respect from anyone yadda yadda yadda.

That's what I get for trying to talk sensibly about basketball expectations with bandwagoners.

I'd probably be a Laker fan too if I lived in LA... for the 5 seconds before I shot myself.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You're probably right. Spurs deserve no respect from anyone yadda yadda yadda.

That's what I get for trying to talk sensibly about basketball expectations with bandwagoners.

I'd probably be a Laker fan too if I lived in LA... for the 5 seconds before I shot myself.

you guys had a nice run...let it go, it's all over

[manufor3]

id like a little more respect from laker fans. that being said, we should give laker fans (except drhouse hes an idiot) respect

[mystargtr34]

Yet no body but Ghazi and Laker fans know or care about those stats, because they have jack to show for it. No one remembers second place, unless its a 39 point beat down.

[Muser]

I think everyone should stop talking smack.

The lakers are the better team, but the better team doesn't always win.

Here's to a WCF Showdown

[Banzai]

I think everyone should stop talking smack.

The lakers are the better team, but the better team doesn't always win.

Here's to a WCF Showdown

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

I don't think the Celtics or Cav's can beat the Lakers this year. In the west I do consider the Spurs and Jazz to be teams to look out for. They are dangerous. The Spurs with a healthy Ginobili can hurt us. Where the Lakers have the edge over most of the top teams is the bench. The Laker bench; if they play like they have most of the season, are alot better than most other teams.

Actually, the team that I think would give the Lakers more problems from the east are the Magic. There are certain teams that match up good to the Lakers and the Magic is one of them.

[IronMexican]

[sonic21]

not the subject, but what happened here?

[crc21209]

Nothing to see here, just a dumb Mav's fan who is sucking off the Lakers and jumping on the train and going by Hollinger stats. That's why they play the games people...you never know what can happen....

[IronMexican]

That was on a Shannon Brown block.

[Ghazi]

Nothing to see here, just a dumb Mav's fan who is sucking off the Lakers and jumping on the train and going by Hollinger stats. That's why they play the games people...you never know what can happen....

They won the West last year, they're 45-10 this year, and they're 15-3 v Western playoff teams this year, 16-2 if we disregard Mason's fluke shot.

Quite frankly, they've earned the right to be "sucked off".

[DrHouse]

The Lakers are a better team this year with or without Bynum.

Gasol had a full training camp with the team and the coaching staff has had a full off-season to gameplan with the current iteration of the team. Last season there were teams that could successfully hold the Lakers in check scoring wise. That doesn't seem to be the case this season.

[Lakers999]

What's more amazing is that they still don't have a championship to show for all those great numbers...

no but they only made it there once since the gasol trade LAST YEAR..... and they will most likely make it agian this year

[TDMVPDPOY]

mavfans have become pathetic like sunsfans all of a sudden

[iggypop123]

health is the only factor standing in the way of the lakers, and thats a big problem

[GuerillaBlack]

Counting last years regular season after the Gasol trade, the playoffs, and this year, the Lakers are 35-9 in regular season games v 2-9 in the West since the Gasol trade (Warriors being the 9th team last year, Blazers replacing them this year). If you go a step further, they're 33-6 in games where Gasol has played. If you go a step further, they're 34-5 if we disregard Mason's fluke shot.

These are amazing numbers to me. It can thus be argued that the Lakers are so good that if you construct an 82 game schedule featuring nothing but the 2-9 teams in the West, they would wind up with a #1 seed regardless.

This year, they're 15-3... and let's dissect those 3 losses:

1. @ SAS- Mason fluke shot. Spurs deserved to lose the game for yielding a 12 point lead in the 4th quarter @ home but got bailed out by an improbable shot and improbable foul.

2. v NO- Odom got injured in the game, and the Hornets needed 32/15 from CP3 with 0 TO's, and 40/11 from David West to win the game. we can dismiss this game as an anomaly.

3. @ Utah- A back to back in Utah where the refs allow the Jazz to play rugby, and the Lakers still only lost by 4 points. A moral victory if you ask me, and dare I go a far as to say a game the Lakers should've won?

The only thing to make of all this is that for a West team to beat the Lakers in the playoffs without HCA, they will need a barrage of hot shooting, fluke plays, and the Lakers to forget how to play basketball.

The Spurs are considered a formidable foe to the Lakers by some in the media, but in reality aren't. Mason's fluke shot disregarded, the Spurs are 1-7 in their last 8 games against the Lakers... they're only considered a threat out of reverence toward their 03, 05, and 07 championships... but this year's team isn't as good as those teams.

The Nuggets of course can't be considered a threat. Their record is inflated by a 21-4 record against sub .500 teams, which means they're only 16-15 against +.500 teams. Also, no team whose best player is backward fighting pussy baby back Carmelo Anthony should be considered a threat to beat the Lakers, let alone advance past the 1st round. Furthermore, LA has won like 9 straight against the Nuggets.

The rest of the teams simply aren't that good. Blazers too young, Hornets/Mavs/Suns too soft with older/flawed rosters, Jazz too undisciplined defensively and seemingly incapable of winning a game @ Staples, whereas the Lakers have shown they can win @ Energy Solutions. As for the Rockets, they just suck, and no team led by the Great Wall of frailty is expected to be a threat to the Lakers, let alone get out of the 1st round.

The only teams capable of beating the Lakers this year are the Celtics and all the King's men.

But I think all of this has been obvious all year long, just pointing out the impressive 35-9 record v the best the West has to offer since the Gasol trade.

The Rockets suck so bad that they beat your team...twice this season so far.

[underdawg]

The Lakers are a better team this year with or without Bynum.

Gasol had a full training camp with the team and the coaching staff has had a full off-season to gameplan with the current iteration of the team. Last season there were teams that could successfully hold the Lakers in check scoring wise. That doesn't seem to be the case this season.

Are they really? I'll give you the fact that Bynum's scoring took away points from players I'm going to mention, but Sasha's, Farmar's and Walton's points are down dramatically this year and while Odom is playing well right now Fisher's minutes are way up and he's no young pup. I see a some fatigue coming for him and Jackson better figure out how to get Sasha, Luke and Jordan involved or they will hit the playoffs cold. Face the fact that the Lakers are playing a lot of teams that aren't that good right now. And I'll throw in the Spurs as one of those teams with the last game we played, but unfortunately for the Lakers and the rest of the league we are getting better - under the radar of course.

[Kobe™]

not the subject, but what happened here?

Phil's sextape leaked.

[DrHouse]

Are they really? I'll give you the fact that Bynum's scoring took away points from players I'm going to mention, but Sasha's, Farmar's and Walton's points are down dramatically this year and while Odom is playing well right now Fisher's minutes are way up and he's no young pup. I see a some fatigue coming for him and Jackson better figure out how to get Sasha, Luke and Jordan involved or they will hit the playoffs cold. Face the fact that the Lakers are playing a lot of teams that aren't that good right now. And I'll throw in the Spurs as one of those teams with the last game we played, but unfortunately for the Lakers and the rest of the league we are getting better - under the radar of course.

4-0 vs. CLE and BOS.

Last season the Lakers were 0-4 against both of these teams.

That alone tells me all I need to know. The Lakers are better, much better. Nobody can slow their offense down and when Bynum returns the defense will be good enough to beat anyone in this league. The only team stopping the Lakers is the Lakers.

The Spurs are the least of their worries. The Lakers have proven they can beat that team 6 ways from Sunday.

[underdawg]

4-0 vs. CLE and BOS.

Last season the Lakers were 0-4 against both of these teams.

That alone tells me all I need to know. The Lakers are better, much better. Nobody can slow their offense down and when Bynum returns the defense will be good enough to beat anyone in this league. The only team stopping the Lakers is the Lakers.

The Spurs are the least of their worries. The Lakers have proven they can beat that team 6 ways from Sunday.

I don't know about Cleveland, but Boston was definitely playing better last year. Put aside the Spurs all you want - we're used to that and honestly we like it that way. Reality is that the Spurs will have something by the playoffs that the Lakers won't and that's defense. I'll freely admit it's nowhere even close to being legit right now, but it will be by the playoffs - that's what makes Pop the best defensive minded coach in the league. And I'm glad you mentioned the Lakers stopping themselves - that does seem to happen - thanks Lakers you're the greatest!