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    @ Jindal.


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    Can't decide if Jindal's epic fail on national TV deserves it's own thread or not. Proabably, but:

    Gov. Bobby Jindal's task tonight, to rebut President Obama's first address to a joint session of Congress, was a thankless one. But it still cons uted an opportunity for the Louisiana Republican to show that he could handle the national spotlight, present himself as a fresh face of the Republican Party, and stand up to the current president oratorically.

    On each of these three hurdles, he came up short.
    Both Democrats and Republicans alike panned Jindal's rebuttal in terms that were decidedly harsh: "amateurish," "laughable" and, most commonly, "a missed opportunity."

    "After watching Jindal," one Democratic strategist emailed, "I'd pay a lot of money to be back watching a Palin speech."

    "Awkward with capital A," emailed another.

    The punditry was equally brutal. Part of the problem was the crux of Jindal's address, which consisted almost entirely of red meat for conservatives. The Governor offered criticism for anything other than tax cuts and ridiculed government spending for items that are either widely supported -- "$8 billion for high-speed rail" -- or seemingly essential -- "$140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring'" (isn't Louisiana Exhibit A in the need for natural disaster warning?).

    "You know, I think Bobby Jindal is a very promising politician," said New York Times columnist David Brooks, appearing on PBS, "and I oppose the stimulus because I thought it was poorly drafted. But to come up at this moment in history with a stale "government is the problem," "we can't trust the federal government" -- it's just a disaster for the Republican Party. The country is in a panic right now. They may not like the way the Democrats have passed the stimulus bill, but that idea ... that government is going to have no role, the federal government has no role in this ... it's just a form of nihilism. It's just not where the country is, it's not where the future of the country is. There's an intra-Republican debate."

    And yet, much of the critique of Jindal's address focused on his hokey, folksy, seemingly-forced tone and vernacular. The Governor, who has never held court on the national stage before -- remember, his speech at the Republican convention was called off after Hurricane Gustav made landfall -- showed a bit of wetness behind the ears. And the commentators let him have it, even on Fox News.

    BRIT HUME: "The speech read a lot better than it sounded. This was not Bobby Jindal's greatest oratorical moment."


    NINA EASTON: "The delivery was not exactly terrific."

    CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: "Jindal didn't have a chance. He follows Obama, who in making speeches, is in a league of his own. He's in a Reagan-esque league. ... [Jindal] tried the best he could."

    JUAN WILLIAMS: "It came off as amateurish, and even the tempo in which he spoke was sing-songy. He was telling stories that seemed very simplistic and almost childish.
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    LOL compare for yourself.

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    Does anyone know if these speeches are being replayed on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, etc? No way I was missing the Spurs game to get smoke blown up my ass.

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    MSNBC right now dude.

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    OK, looks like it's about to come on again on MSNBC.

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    LOL Manny

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    But we know that our schools don’t just need more resources. They need more reform. That is why this budget creates new incentives for teacher performance; pathways for advancement, and rewards for success. We’ll invest in innovative programs that are already helping schools meet high standards and close achievement gaps. And we will expand our commitment to charter schools.

    It is our responsibility as lawmakers and educators to make this system work. But it is the responsibility of every citizen to participate in it. And so tonight, I ask every American to commit to at least one year or more of higher education or career training. This can be community college or a four-year school; vocational training or an apprenticeship. But whatever the training may be, every American will need to get more than a high school diploma. And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It’s not just quitting on yourself, it’s quitting on your country – and this country needs and values the talents of every American. That is why we will provide the support necessary for you to complete college and meet a new goal: by 2020, America will once again have the highest proportion of college graduates in the world.

    I know that the price of tuition is higher than ever, which is why if you are willing to volunteer in your neighborhood or give back to your community or serve your country, we will make sure that you can afford a higher education. And to encourage a renewed spirit of national service for this and future generations, I ask this Congress to send me the bipartisan legislation that bears the name of Senator Orrin Hatch as well as an American who has never stopped asking what he can do for his country – Senator Edward Kennedy.
    Best part of the speech. I know that these speeches are just rah rah political theater that in the end don't mean all that much, but this portion is pretty heartening if they do it right. I think he's got big goals on this front and I don't see him slowing down at all on this or healthcare.

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    Manny you are such a racist sometimes it hurts

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    Best part of the speech. I know that these speeches are just rah rah political theater that in the end don't mean all that much, but this portion is pretty heartening if they do it right. I think he's got big goals on this front and I don't see him slowing down at all on this or healthcare.
    On a serious note, his comments on education and healthcare really resonated with me. I truly want to believe in this guy. But him throwing the classic "cure for cancer" in the speech reminded me it is, in fact, 'rah rah political theater'.

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    Manny you are such a racist sometimes it hurts
    what?

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    Yeah, DR said something about not liking that high school dropout line. I thought it was great and I thought the entire education issue was a great focal point.

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    Cmon, Congress gets autographs?!

    Really?
    Is this the first state of the union you've watched? It happens each time.

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    WTF?

    Quitting high school os no longer just quitting on yourself, its quitting on your country?!

    Another odd thing to say...
    Why? In the end if you drop out you are more than likely to become a financial burden on your country than you are to actually contribute something to the society.

    I may be wrong, but you've asked for him to speak to you like an adult if I remember correctly. He did just that with that line. I'm very surprised to see you had an issue with it.

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    I hate the poll MSNBC is running at the bottom. Great speech so far, but I could give a what Obama and McCain voters think about it when I'm judging the speech.

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    Why did McCain stand and applaud when Barack just said he was ending the Iraq war??

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    Isn't Greenville in OK and not Kansas?

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    Its Greensburg

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    WTF Jindal?

    Is he making a speech or reading the little engine that could in a kindergarten classroom? Also, Louisiana got hit by a hurricane? No ? Next thing you know, John McCain is going to say he was a POW.

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    Then again, could have been worse. Imagine Palin's re ed ass giving the response. Is she a GOP pariah now or what?

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    Psh, she probably popped a bottle of champagne tonight. Jindal was pretty ing horrible.

    Kenneth the mother ing page.

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    Psh, she probably popped a bottle of champagne tonight. Jindal was pretty ing horrible.

    Kenneth the mother ing page.
    Palin would have been more entertaining; it would be the response to Katie Couric instead of to Obama.

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    I may be wrong, but you've asked for him to speak to you like an adult if I remember correctly. He did just that with that line. I'm very surprised to see you had an issue with it.
    LOL... what a contrast with Jindal's patronizing tone.

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    LOL... what a contrast with Jindal's patronizing tone.
    They should have just run an SNL special - that would have worked better.

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