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Yes, their defense was extraordinary
The only series with bad luck with fluke shots and bad officiating were the Finals in 2006. In 2003 and 2007 I disagree with Ghazi. As you wrote, there was nothing fluky, they were simply better than the Mavs.
Yes, their defense was extraordinary
If Kaman was healthy they would do the trade immediately I think, even with Baron's contract. He and Dirk also got along pretty well during the summer while playing for German's national team. But he has had some injuries for two seasons in a row now, and if you add the fact that their contracts are both long and big, during a deep recession, it makes that much harder to pull the trigger.
I know Dallas wants to be a player in 2010 but I don't think it's happening honestly. Not with NY, NJ (soon to be Brooklyn), and Miami also being players during that year. Dallas has never been a great FA destination. They aren't a small market, but not a big one like NY, Chicago, LA, Philly, Boston. And while it's warm, it's nothing like Cali or Florida in terms of entertainment/lifestyle. So they don't have quite the appeal to be a great FA destination.
Whatever.
mavs have always been over the cap. You really expect a guy like Rashard Lewis, Kobe, etc to accept less money to come to Dallas?
Do I see pink?
They'd actually have to play on an actual basketball court during a real game to prove this. Seeing as neither can stay healthy long enough, this makes that point moot. That and Davis' shooting makes Jason Kidd look like Craig Hodges.
I bet if kaman got traded to the Mavs, his foot would get alot better. Im just not keen on acquiring Davis on his long contract. Alot of Mavs fans views of Davis are skewed by his performance in the 07 playoffs against us. Im all for getting Kaman, just not Daivs
we love our team.
We really do love our team
calm down. dirk isn't a "great player," he's a former MVP. there's only six or seven of them in the league. all of them used to be or are on a contending team. obviously the mavs want to make a push for a championship when one the league's MVP is at his prime. is there another better time than right now? right now they are wasting dirk's prime because they can't contend for a championship. anything less of a championship is considered a failure because the mavs were built to win a championship. mavs and dirk have higher expectations because they were so good.
it's the same for the suns. you look back at the suns and you don't think oh they've had one of the best records in the league for the past three years. no, people see a championship contender that failed to capture a ring. you want to make a push for a championship when your best player is playing at his best. mavs tried it for two years and failed. the 2003 and 2004 lakers were loaded to contend for the championship. even though they reached the finals in 2004, i wouldn't consider that team a success. lakers were able to blow it up and rebuild because bryant was still so young. dirk is not, which goes back to my original point that cuban must be very confident in acquiring someone next year or in 2010 to keep jkidd. having an MVP still in his prime is the best chance the mavs will ever have to win a championship. the same goes for all other teams.
The Mavs have some good players but have repeatedly come up short in various stages of the play offs.
If I was the Mavs (which I am glad I am not) I would not hesitate to make trades.
Sure they have some good players on their team, but those guys, depsite numermous opportunites, have yet to put any Championship trophies in the case.
Make a big trade. Shake things up.
It is not like doing so would interfere with any great trend the Mavs have going- unless continously choking in the play offs when it counts is their goal.
If so, then carry on.
we love our teamThe Mavs have some good players but have repeatedly come up short in various stages of the play offs.
If I was the Mavs (which I am glad I am not) I would not hesitate to make trades.
Sure they have some good players on their team, but those guys, depsite numermous opportunites, have yet to put any Championship trophies in the case.
Make a big trade. Shake things up.
It is not like doing so would interfere with any great trend the Mavs have going- unless continously choking in the play offs when it counts is their goal.
If so, then carry on.
That speaks well of your patience and character.
If it is for the cap space thing then I agree, but if it is for the trade in itself. I think it's pretty good: two good quality players (even though they're both injured now, I think) for a washed up player that doesn't fit well in the team.
Does anybody know if Davis and Kaman would be able to play this year?
Last edited by DAF86; 02-11-2009 at 05:09 PM.
Fixed. WE LOVE OUR TEAM!
It's not only because both are injury prone and have fatty contracts. Davis is only interested about himself, he doesn't care about anything but his beloved money. I don't want someone with such an at ude in Dallas.
Btw, I do not mean that no player cares about the money. Of course they do and it's normal. But it's a difference if you care more about the money than about your team.
Baron Davis couldn't have helped defensively against Tony Parker. Chris Kaman couldn't have helped us take advantage of a Duncan-less post.
Newsflash: Kaman hasn't played a game in months and Baron davis is a 35% chucker who doesn't care about basketball.
But let's assume you're right, and mono my fellow Mavs fan, I know you're a "championship or bust" guy, not a guy who cares about a few more regular season wins.
Davis/Kaman wouldn't bring us a championship my good friend. They wouldn't even put the Mavs on the level of the Lakers/Cavs/Celtics, maybe not even Spurs.
i'd put my money on Davis stepping it up more than a few notches on a playoff team. the clip is horrible.
I'd put my money on Mav fans wondering two years from now why the they were paying Davis and Kaman $30 mil a year for a team that still isn't anywhere close to a contender.
You get a cookie!
two years from now the Mavericks won't be anywhere close to contenders regardless. I'd rather they go for it right now rather than throw all their chips in 2010 and then be really screwed when NOBODY SIGNS WITH THEM.
Kaman/Davis. Just not sensing a championship vibe from them. Good players, not core players on a championship team though.
Baron Davis, I find him weak mentally, and indifferent toward basketball. Of course, that would fit the theme of our boys in blue
Also, 35% chucker. yeah I know the Clippers suck, well fine. Career 41% chucker. 2007 v Mavs wasn't the real Baron Davis, it was an aberration.
Chris Kaman? I don't know much about him. Certainly an upgrade over Dampier, but I don't consider him an elite center at all. also, foot problems.
The Mavs may not be nowhere in 2 years regardless. But with these contracts it would be more difficult to rebuild in the future.
But alas, I really don't think the 2010 plan is what the Mavs are actually planning. No way do they plan on wasting a year of beloved Dirk's prime in 2009-2010, perhaps his last year of "prime". Would they honestly let Stack and J-Ho go to waste in the offseason, keep them around for a year, just to save salary and sign a free agent who isn't coming here? Surely our boys in blue are smarter than that, surely.
But anyway, Davis/Kaman isn't "going for it" now, it's making a small upgrade now, and adding further dilemma to a likely bleak future.
What have Donnie Nelson & Mark Cuban done to possibly make you think that?
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