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Link, please?
LOL at using Mexico's drug cartels as an excuse to ban "assault weapons". Just come out and say you want to take American's guns away.
Link, please?
He said it today in some press conference. I don't see it up on youtube yet.
Saw it on TV or overheard it on the radio.
Lazy! Don't you use the google?
Some weapons smuggling seems to be involved. Is that what caused your spidey-sense to tingle?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us...ds.html?ref=us
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0...893-xml-atomom
http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...51O6ZP20090225
I have seen multiple reports of what the cartel's are using down there. I seriously doubt half of that comes from gun shows and are then smuggled down to Mexico like the anti-gun anti-americans like to rant about.
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I haven't seen a link online yet, but also saw his comments broadcasted this evening on the news.
I would just like for him to point me in the right direction of the gun shows he says are being used for strawman purchases, particularly given I know of no such gun shows where one can easily pick up automatic weapons and grenade launchers, as he noted during his speech today.
What a ing .
Seriously, how would you know AHF? Do you have any outside support for this hunch?
LockBeard relies on Eric Holder to identify strawman buyers for him!--
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Last edited by Winehole23; 02-25-2009 at 11:07 PM.
maybe if american's didnt buy so much ing blow and create such high demand for that the mexican's wouldnt be fighting over the drug trade.
it's not black and white. mexican's have ty and corrupt politicians/police... at the same time americans have an insatiable appe e for hard drugs. it just creates this ed up monster of a world.
it's straight up capitalism what they're doing. who can blame them? if you were fighting over billions and billions of dollars wouldnt you be willing to cap some ers?
Wreck their business model and create a new revenue stream. Legalize. Sell drugs to Americans and tax it. It's easier than picking money up off the floor.
except for the legalize all drugs.... hard drugs are too dangerous to legalize. Marijuana I'm fine with... I've never used it but i dont see the need for it to be criminalized. cocaine and heroine are different stories.. they are dangerously addictive.
even alcohol is iffy... if is wasnt such a huge industry id say make it illegal too (as im sitting here buzzing)... it's just it's become such an integral part of society that would never happen.
Listen. Mexico is ed up. We all get that.
The point of this thread was to point out this coward Eric Holder with his 12 yr old mustache is going to re-ins ute the assault weapons ban. This mexico thing is merely a smoke and mirrors excuse to get momentum behind it.
Classic. Also sigworthy.
The Sinaloa drug cartel is smoke and mirrors, or just our operation against it? 750 arrests does not sound like a an insignificant haul to me.
The authorities said they seized $59.1 million in cash, more than 13 tons of cocaine, 8 tons of marijuana, more than a half-ton of methamphetamine and lesser amounts of other illicit drugs. Agents confiscated 149 vehicles, 3 aircraft, 3 vessels and 169 weapons, the officials said.
The drug cartels in Mexico and already in the United States are no joke.
The government using the drug cartel's weapons supplies and linking it to Americans being able to purchase "assault weapons", so they can have an excuse to push the ban.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1
Thanks for the clarification, boutons.
Last edited by Winehole23; 02-26-2009 at 11:41 PM.
Look, I'm sorry you're so clueless on this one.
They are reporting about automatic machine guns and grenade launchers being found in Mexico. You can't go down to the Live Oak Gun Show and buy that stuff, you have to be either A) the U.S. military or B) have the appropriate license to buy it, which requires everything short of a cavity search from the BATF.
If they're really getting these weapons from the U.S., it's either being stolen from military facilities (doubtful) or someone with the appropriate firearms class licenses is doing straw man purchases, but that should be easy for the FBI to track down.
Bottom line, they're full of crap and using the Mexican gun violence situation as an excuse to go after legal weapons in this country.
I don't know anything about the guns. Do you have a gun-related link for us?
Have the proposed any legislation yet or was he simply stating an opinion. I know there are several anti gun members of the administration, but I know there is also a good amount of representation for the opposite as well.
Gun shows have always been iffy for me and assault weapons are also something I feel go beyond the right to bear arms but there is no way in I'd support any big anti gun measures.
Maybe I missed another assault weapon thread somewhere....
why is a ban on "assault weapons" a cowardly or negative act?
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