Vet loses house over pot bust.

[Blake]

I probably smoke 12 ounces in a month. He could've just been stocking up. I mean, if I was getting four thousand dollar disability checks you'd probably catch me with a briefcase filled with more drugs than they had in Fear and Loathing. And that "GO UTSA" sweatshirt I've always wanted.

Well if you're just stocking up, then don't plead guilty to the felony charge.

[Blake]

Well that charity just took a nosedive for the worse in the PR department.

because they didn't give a free house to a convicted drug dealer?

I doubt it.

This is a ty situaton for both sides and the charity neglected to follow the 6 P's the military loves to follow: Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

The charity is not the military and is not required to do background checks.

I'm all for legalizaion of marijuana and drugs/pros ution...its crazy that idiotic Christians that believe in an unhealthy fantasy and use that crap to justify women getting beat by pimps and war vets like this guy go to jail and lose his house.

huh? I don't know any Christians that believe in an unhealthy fantasy and using it to justify women getting beat by pimps.

That's a new one.

[Obstructed_View]

And I hate the "War On..." terminology - it's just bull dressed up to please hard right wingers who don't understand that the world is complex and full of shades of grey.

All the shades of grey folks are the ones that let degenerate until it requires a war. Learn your history.

[Mr. Peabody]

Well if you're just stocking up, then don't plead guilty to the felony charge.

If the amount of marijuana you are dealing with is 12 oz., it's a felony regardless of whether they charge you with intent to distribute or simple possession.

[NBAcourtsweatsweeperupper]

If the amount of marijuana you are dealing with is 12 oz., it's a felony regardless of whether they charge you with intent to distribute or simple possession.

That is a no brainer.

[Blake]

If the amount of marijuana you are dealing with is 12 oz., it's a felony regardless of whether they charge you with intent to distribute or simple possession.

and there you go

case closed.

[Mr. Peabody]

In Missouri where the case took place, you only get the misdemeanor charge if the amount is 35 grams or less.

Possession of 35 grams or less of marijuana is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine up to $1,000. Possession of greater than 35 grams is a felony and is punishable by up to seven years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. Possession of greater than 30 kilograms is considered trafficking and the penalty is 5 - 15 years in prison. Possession of 100 kilograms or more carries a penalty of 10 years - life in prison.

Sale or manufacture of 5 grams or less of marijuana is a felony, punishable by up to seven years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. Sale of greater than 5 grams carries a penalty of 5 - 15 years in prison. Sale of greater than 30 kilograms is punishable by 10 years - life in prison and sale of 100 kilograms or more is punishable by 10 years - life in prison with no probation or parole.

Any sale to a minor increases the penalties by 5 - 15 years in prison. Any sale within 2,000 feet of a school or within 1,000 feet of a public housing project increases the penalties to 10 years - life in prison.

The possession of paraphernalia is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. The sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000.

When you consider that just one ounce is 28 grams, it's obvious this guy had well over the misdemeanor limit.

[Bartleby]

I probably smoke 12 ounces in a month.

That's a lot! Are you using it as incense or what?

[Boris]

Talk about a buzz killer.

[Mr. Peabody]

That is what I would have said. There must have been a reason why he pleaded guilty. Those damn court appointed attorneys.

If he has enough money to buy a 65-inch flat screen, he should have been able to hire his own lawyer. Also, I don't think the "It wasn't going to sell it, just smoke it" defense works too well cases where you have a felony amount of pot and a scale.

In October 2007, a police officer pulled West and two friends over for driving without headlights or license plates.

That very day, West said he had cashed the first of his monthly $4,000 disability checks and had gone to an electronics store to buy a 65-inch television, a laptop computer and other electronics. The purchases were in the back of a pickup he'd recently purchased.

On the way home, he picked up a friend, who, West said, had gone to buy marijuana for the group.

The police officer smelled marijuana and asked to search the vehicle. He reported finding 2.5 pounds of marijuana in several containers, a scale and several pipes. (It would later be determined the actual amount of marijuana was less than 12 ounces.) The officer also found $800 in cash on West.

[peewee's lovechild]

And that "GO UTSA" sweatshirt I've always wanted.

[ploto]

I think part of this story has to be missing because the guy pleaded guilty to this count, leading me to think it was a plea for a lesser charge than the original one (which obviously was even worse).

[ploto]

Possession of greater than 35 grams is a felony and is punishable by up to seven years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000.

So the guy actually got off with only probabtion.

[J.T.]

That's a lot! Are you using it as incense or what?

No, I just like being stoned more than I like being sober and I have the budget to support that habit, so why not? I actually do better at work when I'm stoned. I'm up for promotion in about nine days due to some baller work I did a few weeks back while ripped off my ass on the job. And one of my favorite things to do is get baked and drive around south Texas backroads while listening to rock music that came out before I was born. I could probably burn through a pound a month if I wanted to.

[JoeChalupa]

No, I just like being stoned more than I like being sober and I have the budget to support that habit, so why not? I actually do better at work when I'm stoned. I'm up for promotion in about nine days due to some baller work I did a few weeks back while ripped off my ass on the job. And one of my favorite things to do is get baked and drive around south Texas backroads while listening to rock music that came out before I was born. I could probably burn through a pound a month if I wanted to.

Mouse is gonna have a cow.

[Bigzax]

hey JT, please put me down for a half pound...
hopefully, we'll be in touch, thanks!

[JoeChalupa]

I knew Bigzak wouldn't be far behind.

[JudynTX]

Mouse is gonna have a cow.

No .

[Re-Animator]

Most of all the weed fear is just propaganda started back in the refer madness days.

They said marijuana was a gateway drug but in fact the reason people did other drugs after weed was because when the dealer would show up with the weed he would also have other drugs and therefore most people just out of curiosity would say sure let me try that coke or acid. But to say Weed is a gateway drug to heroin is like saying drinking milk is a gateway to beer.


Look at this great do entary and then come back with your opinions.

[mouse]

The Union: The Business Behind Getting High-2007




Highly entertaining as well as informative, The Union takes a look at British Columbia's ever-expanding marijuana industry. Beginning with a brief history of the use of marijuana in North America, director Brett Harvey takes us on a journey that includes interviews with growers, clippers, criminologists, politicians, doctors, police officers and pop culture icons to illuminate the business of BC bud and how it is that such a powerful industry can function so successfully while remaining illegal. With enormous profits to be made, he questions who benefits the most from the current state of affairs and comes up with some not-so-surprising answers.

In examining more closely the propaganda of the anti-marijuana lobby, some unexpected facts and figures surface regarding the health risks of marijuana as well as the economic, agricultural and societal benefits of growing hemp, and the current laws prohibiting such crops in North America. As an industry that brings in seven billion dollars annually, the business of growing and distributing marijuana is even more profitable for those involved on both sides of the law due to the prohibition. The Union is a fascinating and in-depth look at one of BC's most profitable industries and the players involved, from the growers and dealers to pharmaceutical companies and builders of private prisons.


Winner, Outstanding Do entary Feature, 2007 Winnipeg International Film Festival.


This film is nominated for the National Film Board's Best Canadian Do entary Award.

[mouse]

Have you seen any good Do entary's or bad ones you would like to comment on? I was doing a search one night and I downloaded a few.

I know I am behind the times but I saw this month the following Do entaries.


outfoxed

http://www.outfoxed.org/

I found it fascinating to watch given the history of what I already suspected with Fox news. It was refreshing to see I was not alone in my opinions.





Last night I saw a very entertaining Do entary about ENRON

http://www.imdb.com/ le/tt1016268/

It was cool to see the behind the scenes of cooperate greed at its best.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#

[The Power Hour.]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110683

[Cane]

because they didn't give a free house to a convicted drug dealer?

I doubt it.



The charity is not the military and is not required to do background checks.

Yes they lost PR rep because of this, don't be naive. They didn't follow the 5 P's and deserve to pay for it with their ty job.

huh? I don't know any Christians that believe in an unhealthy fantasy and using it to justify women getting beat by pimps.

That's a new one.

New one? Not really. This nation is run by idiotic Christians with their own individual agendas. The incredibly inept and unhealthy fantasy Christians preach but rarely practice have shaped the very laws and mindsets of this nation and I strongly believe the Christian mindset and Christians themselves are keeping acts like pros ution illegal. If it was legalized there'd be rules and regulations and pimps would actually face serious legal consequences for their actions rather than letting them practice street justice.

Christianity is one of the major, if not THE major problem in this country.

[Obstructed_View]

Look at this great do entary and then come back with your opinions.

How about a fact?

Pot = Illegal

/thread

[baseline bum]

How about a fact?

Pot = Illegal

/thread

Going to Canada to buy your prescription drugs = illegal too, to protect the profits of our pharmaceutical industry.

I figured a right-winger like you would understand that government is often wrong and often makes laws for stupid or even criminal reasons.

/thread