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We dont NEED him to win a le.
So i guess Pop and R.C don't know what their doing when they are going after him?
We dont NEED him to win a le.
He played a game for Sacto, so that's 6, plus whatever team he signs with. That'll be 7 teams in not quite 7 seasons.
Teams keep getting rid of him, teams that aren't as particular about player personnel as SA is.
gooden is a good player, compared to ely and nazr. he also has a jumpshot. if he's coachable, maybe he can be our primary defender against odom, nowitzki, or even boozer. i think we have a better chance of getting that 5th ring. according to a wojnarowski column, the spurs are in the best position to sign him. i say, go get him! we'll take it from there.
Pretty much...you hear timvp trashing Elson? Guess who signed him?
Yeap...Pop and RC.
Jackie Butler?
Pop and RC.
You know who drafted that guy named Leandro Barbosa that plays in Phoenix and gave him away for nothing? Pop and RC.
That guy Udoka who is the regining board ?
Pop and RC.
Beno Udrih?
Pop and RC.
You want I should go on or are you willing to stop acting like they are beyond questioning?
Because they most certainly aren't.
Then what's the point of signing him? Why not sign someone that can help us win a le?We dont NEED him to win a le.
gooden will want a bigger paycheck in the summer but until then, he's gonna have to play his hardest to get a raise. players usually play their best during a contract year. see vujacic and odom (when he's starting). just don't look at udoka.
No sacramento would make 5. I don't count sacramento. One of the main reasons cleveland got rid of him was to match salaries to get rid of Larry Hughes ridiculously overpaid contract. Sacramento got rid of him because of their youth movement/ financial situation/ and plus Gooden requested being bought out. So sacramento basically saved 1.8 million on a player thats not part of their future due to the gems in Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson.
There's a reason why Pop and R.C elected to go after Gooden. Obviously they see more positives than negatives. And for you to say with Gooden out there opposing teams bigs will avg. 30 points a night is a very irrational and overreacting statement.
Who is out there thats better than Gooden that could help us win a le then?
Well Joe Smith for one...
Oh wait, while you're sitting here talking about how bad the Cavs want Gooden, they went out and signed Smith.
Could it because they value defense on that team and Gooden is the worst bigman in the league at playing it?
I think so...
Gooden is a fallback position after going after Rasheed, Camby, Mourning, probably Joe Smith, who knows maybe Miki Moore. Dreaming about Krstic. They know they need a big and that's what's left. Beggars can't be choosers.
Joe Smith reportedly already scooped up by the Cavs.
Did Smith want to sign with the Spurs over the Cavs? Do you know that the Spurs didn't try to get him and couldn't?
Um...Beggars can be choosers if one of their choices is . In fact you just Sacramento take a pass on .
It was stated in multiple sites that Cleveland was interested in Gooden as well as Smith. I never had a hard on for how Cleveland was salivating on the idea of Gooden coming back.
So what if Gooden said no to the Cavs. You and I don't know who called who first. Gooden could have been butt hurt from being traded from Cleveland and had his mind made up from the get go that he's coming here. Fact is there's hundreds of big men out there via Dleague/ Free agency. And the Spurs obviously think Gooden can help this team win a le.
And please don't compare Jackie Butler or Elsons signing to Goodens. Gooden is a better player of both players you just mentioned and the rest of the bigs we have outside of Duncan.
Sac had no future use for Gooden, they're entirely in a rebuilding mode, going young and Gooden saved them a little money which, given the state of Vegas, I'm pretty sure the Maloofs can use. I'm not hot on Gooden but he can't hurt.
Next up Robert Horry. He knows the system...and will act as an enforcer if nothing else.
You know what you guys are doing?
You see food so you're eating...
You're not actually hungry, you don't even really like this kind of food...it's just food and it's in front of your face, so you eat it.
It does not matter that your not hungry now...because you will almost certainly be hungry later, even though eating this food now will not prevent you from being hungry later but you think the best course of action is to eat it anyway...when really there's absolutely no essential reason to eat it.
Then you sit around wondering why you're 20lbs overweight...
Not really. I personally think Spurs as stands have a 1 in 100 chance of the le and maybe Gooden would up it to 1 in 99, maybe 98.
Horry's done. He probably weighs 300 lbs by now.
And that's saying something...because they consider Beno Udrih a savior...and he's about the same age Gooden is.
So wait...they don't need Gooden's services but we do?they're entirely in a rebuilding mode, going young and Gooden saved them a little money which, given the state of Vegas, I'm pretty sure the Maloofs can use.
Hmmm...
Right...this might keep us from starving later. Best to not let it go to wasteI'm not hot on Gooden but he can't hurt.
I'm not overweight and I still want Gooden.
I've SEEN him on the defensive side of the court. (Notice that I didn't say I'd seen him play defense, or even try to play defense. No one ever has) He's ing awful. Sean was laughing at him on the telecast a few years ago, he's that bad. Saying he plays Ole' defense is an insult to all of the Ole' defenders of the NBA.
HE SUCKS ASS ON DEFENSE.
Kind of like Seattle's situation last year. They had young pieces in place. They didn't need Barry to cut some of their young players minutes that they were trying to develop. So they decided to release him. It doesn't take anything away from Barry. Same for Gooden. But your too ignorant to understand that.
Saying he sucks ass on defense is like me saying we shouldn't play bowen because he SUCKS ASS ON offense or we shouldn't play mason because HE SUCKS ASS AT PENETRATING. OR how we shouldn't play finley because HE SUCKS ASS ON Defense. just stop it with the overreacting and nitpicking on one flaw he might have and exploiting it. Gooden is a superior rebounder and has the ability and skills to contribute in more ways than any other of our bigs outside of Duncan. If you disagree with that you are just a biased homer Bonner Oberto nut.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-02-2009 at 09:50 PM.
There were reports they were trying to dump Beno and the mistake they made in signing him too.
They didn't need Salmons either. I guess he's crap too since Sac had no use for him. They don't need anybody that won't contribute 3- 5 years from now when they might be a contender.So wait...they don't need Gooden's services but we do?
Hmmm...
I'm not high on Gooden but apart from the mythical Joe Smith, Mourning that wouldn't come out of retirement, Krstic the Spurs couldn't afford, Camby that the Clippers wouldn't trade and Rasheed that the Pistons wouldn't release who you got? Horry that looked like last year and is probably a lot better now rested and completely out of shape?Right...this might keep us from starving later. Best to not let it go to waste
He will become the worst defender on the team. Easily.
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