Kings waive Gooden; Spurs next?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Gooden may not be the greatest defender but he is easily better than any of our bigs outside of TD.

Sorry, but with the makeup of this 2009 Spurs team a championship is going to take one of an effort. Why not ease the pressure by getting a servicable big that can actually score the ball inside of 3 feet.


I also pray that should this signing happen, that Pop waives Udoka who has regressed into one of the worst players in the NBA. I don't even know if Udoka would last in the D League if he was allowed to go back, much less the NBA.


But knowing Pop, he'll probably waive Pops instead.

[Marcus Bryant]

He rebounds better than defensive savants Matt Bonner and Fabricio Oberto.

[MaNu4Tres]

He will become the worst defender on the team. Easily.

That's your opinion. In my opinion Gooden has the skills and ability to contribute in more ways than any big we have if he buys into our system. And in my opinion compared to the defensive monsters in Bonner and Oberto, Gooden isn't much worse.

[Marcus Bryant]

He's an above average rebounder, average scorer with an average jumper and a below average defender. All in all, he'd be the 3rd best bigman on the team. Yes, that does say something about the decline in depth in the Spurs frontcourt, but at this point the answer is obvious if he will sign. I'm not sure what the opposing argument is here. He sucks so bad the Spurs should go into the playoffs with 4 experienced bigmen and only 2 who are really worth a damn? A few of you make no sense whatsoever.

[exstatic]

That's your opinion. In my opinion Gooden has the skills and ability to contribute in more ways than any big we have if he buys into our system. And in my opinion compared to the defensive monsters in Bonner and Oberto, Gooden isn't much worse.

Compared to Gooden, those guys ARE defensive monsters.

[whottt]

I'm not overweight and I still want Gooden.

Once your metabolism slows down you'll regret these sorts of bad habits and indulging them.

You heard it here first.

[MaNu4Tres]

Compared to Gooden, those guys ARE defensive monsters.

how much are bonner and oberto paying you? I want in on this.

[m33p0]

It should have happened already by this time?

he has to clear waivers first... which is on wednesday.

[picnroll]

General question:

Is Gooden's poor defense more lack of ability, lack of effort or a combination of the two? To me he seems to have the athleticism to be a decent defender if he made an effort.

[EricB]

General question:

Is Gooden's poor defense more lack of ability, lack of effort or a combination of the two? To me he seems to have the athleticism to be a decent defender if he made an effort.

Lack of effort and BBall IQ IMO.

[MaNu4Tres]

General question:

Is Gooden's poor defense more lack of ability, lack of effort or a combination of the two? To me he seems to have the athleticism to be a decent defender if he made an effort.

They claim its his basketball IQ. But the dude went to Kansas so I don't think his BB IQ is as low as they claim. Even though he may not be a dikembe defensive force from the mid 90's, I think he has the mobility to defend quicker 4's in the league.

[Chief]

I'm happy spurs are looking to pick someone up but Drew Gooden's a piece, but not the big tall bulky center we need. He's a scoring big man, we need defense and blocked shots.

[Manufan909]

As a Spurs fan apologist I blame the lack of fluoridation in San Antonio de Bexar's water system.

I guess you missed the thread asserting that Kunta-Kinte is the next Rodman?

Anyways, those who are madly in love with Kunta brought up the choice. Those of us who manage to inhabit reality for a small portion of the day made the obvious call.

Constantly putting Kunta-Kinte instead of his real name, or at the very least PMB, is ing pathetic and racist. Since Mensah-Bonsu is too hard for you to spell out, just stick with the initials. I get your point, but using race to make fun of him is low, especially for you.

Getting back to the topic, what is Gooden offensive repertoire? Does he have a decent post game? I guess we wouldn't see it if he gets most of his minutes alongside Tim, but it'd be cool to see if he was paired with any of the other bigs. Or even with Tim, if he decides to set up for a bank, so there is always someone putting pressure on the opponents interior D.

[EricB]

I'm happy spurs are looking to pick someone up but Drew Gooden's a piece, but not the big tall bulky center we need. He's a scoring big man, we need defense and blocked shots.

No kidding!??!

Where is that bigman at?

I'm still waiting for someone to answer that.

[EricB]

Constantly putting Kunta-Kinte instead of his real name, or at the very least PMB, is ing pathetic and racist. Since Mensah-Bonsu is too hard for you to spell out, just stick with the initials. I get your point, but using race to make fun of him is low, especially for you.

Getting back to the topic, what is Gooden offensive repertoire? Does he have a decent post game? I guess we wouldn't see it if he gets most of his minutes alongside Tim, but it'd be cool to see if he was paired with any of the other bigs. Or even with Tim, if he decides to set up for a bank, so there is always someone putting pressure on the opponents interior D.

STFU

It isn't even close to racism.

learn what racism is first dumbass.

[Spursmania]

Compared to Gooden, those guys ARE defensive monsters.

Please stop, you're killing me...

[EricB]

Please stop, you're killing me...

Gooden = Bruce Bowen version of the bigman apparently.

[MaNu4Tres]

No kidding!??!

Where is that bigman at?

I'm still waiting for someone to answer that.

The great Robert Horry according to whott.

[Marcus Bryant]

Constantly putting Kunta-Kinte instead of his real name, or at the very least PMB, is ing pathetic and racist. Since Mensah-Bonsu is too hard for you to spell out, just stick with the initials. I get your point, but using race to make fun of him is low, especially for you.

Oh ing lighten up. The perpetually offended and humorless such as yourself offer all the more reason to do so.

Getting back to the topic, what is Gooden offensive repertoire? Does he have a decent post game? I guess we wouldn't see it if he gets most of his minutes alongside Tim, but it'd be cool to see if he was paired with any of the other bigs. Or even with Tim, if he decides to set up for a bank, so there is always someone putting pressure on the opponents interior D.

Garbage points and the occassional jumper.

[EricB]

The great Robert Horry according to whott.

I'd honestly still rather have Horry.

If you thought Elson was maddening, damn, you guys are gonna be pissed at Gooden.

[MaNu4Tres]

http://www2.sportsnet.ca/basketball/...s/Drew_Gooden/

Assets
A fluid and smooth post player. An above-average rebounder who can dominate on the boards. A solid mid-range scorer who has some decent post moves. Makes an effort on defense. Hits his free-throws.

http://hoopshype.com/players/drew_gooden.htm

Has great agility, athleticism and mobility... Great rebounding skills... Effective hook shot... A much more consistent player now than he was in the past... Understands his role as a hustle player.
Flaws
Inconsistency has dogged him throughout his career. Not the shot-blocker he could be. Can be a little passive on offense.
Career potential
Above-average post presence.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'd honestly still rather have Horry.

If you thought Elson was maddening, damn, you guys are gonna be pissed at Gooden.

Elson wasn't coached by Roy Williams at Kansas for 3 years was he? Putting Gooden's BBIQ in the same boat as Elson's isn't justifiable.

[tav1]

STFU

It isn't even close to racism.

learn what racism is first dumbass.

Eric: humor me. What definition of racism are you working with?

And why would you choose the name Kunta Kinte in place of Mensah-Bonsu? Where is the tie in? What's the joke?

For the record, I don't think you are racist or intended to make a racist statement. But I'm also not surprised that some would take the Kunta Kinte name swap in a weird way because of the whole slave trade context. In other words, you're playing with euphemistic fire. Pops Mensah-Bonsu = Kunta Kinte = slave.

[EricB]

Elson wasn't coached by Roy Williams at Kansas for 3 years was he? Putting Gooden's BBIQ in the same boat as Elson's isn't justifiable.

So because he went to Kansas = smart?

[EricB]

Eric: humor me. What definition of racism are you working with?

And why would you choose the name Kunta Kinte in place of Mensah-Bonsu? Where is the tie in? What's the joke?

For the record, I don't think you are racist or intended to make a racist statement. But I'm also not surprised that some would take the Kunta Kinte name swap in a weird way because of the whole slave trade context. In other words, you're playing with euphemistic fire. Pops Mensah-Bonsu = Kunta Kinte = slave.

Wow, you really REALLY need to back the up and take a pill.


There is nothing racist at all about calling Pops that name. What. So. EVER.