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Says the guy whose team just signed Stromile Swift...lol. Please...let's just stop it.
whott you waste so much time making these prolific posts but for what? We are getting Gooden at cheap cost and we don't have to give up anything. Yet your going ing ape about it. Grow up you ing baby.
Says the guy whose team just signed Stromile Swift...lol. Please...let's just stop it.
I'm not going ape about anything...Gooden sucks and people need to realize it.
I can't...I did a trade LAST Monday in D-league 1 and it hasn't gone through yet, thus I might miss the playoffs.
Plus...it's really not about Barry, you've got it hardwired into your head that I am somehow grinding some axe over Barry when the subject is moot to me because he chose to leave...I mean, last I checked the Spurs can't force him to stay so exactly what would I be ing about? The reason we are discussing Barry at this moment is because you can't let him go...
I've got lots of examples of this strategy not working without using Barry as an example...including on this years team.
ok, we are getting a no shot blocking big, great just what we don't need.
If the lakers get POPS. we are done for.
He can't block a shot to save his life
wtf
Pops reminds me a lot of Bill Russell, if he was more athletic and wore a headband.
So whottt, would you rather us do nothing...or take our chances with the D-League fodder?
huh? Pops won't be part of the lakers' playoff roster this year even if they sign him now.
Hmmm...the first thing I'd like is to get another Laker Killer because Mason won't be enough. I don't know that there are any available though...
If that doesn't work then I'd like to get Horry so we'd at least have an enforcer and someone who knows the system...and someone who will draw a perimeter defender from Phil. But I know the Spurs aren't going to go that route...they'll want Gooden for the rebounding.
I don't think Gooden is going to fare any better than any other rebounder we have brought in. Oh he might do alright at first..but he'll eventually wind up like all our other rebounders do...and he's going to bring liabilities on the court when we attempt it.
So in lieu of all that I'd just as soon we keep Bonner as comfortable and confident as possible...because if he can hit shots against LA, then we can beat them. If he can draw a defender...we can beat them.
We aren't going to beat them if we aren't knocking down threes...I don't care how good we rebound. If we aren't knocking down threes they will take Parker and Duncan away and clog the paint and swipe the ball away in the fourth whenever anyone tries to penetrate or we try to run 4 down with Duncan. It is so tedious and simple what they do to us to beat us that I'm just sick of it frankly...
Last edited by whottt; 03-03-2009 at 06:40 AM.
whottt, even you have admitted Horry has choked against the Lakers. Signing Horry makes some sense ... but not to beat the Lakers. Phil ignored him in 2004 and 2008 and Horry shot a combined 5%.
So it's the Ghost of Horry Past or Gooden. Sorry, I think I have to take Gooden.
I don't really get the "keep Bonner comfortable" argument either. He will be asked to produce in the playoffs. That in itself is the most uncomfortable spot imaginable. If he is not at a place where he can mentally accept another player then we are in trouble when it comes to him mentally accepting his role as a contributer in the playoffs. Matt has also responded to both Tolliver and Croshere(two players that are similar to him) by playing well...so I don't see how bringing in Gooden will change anything for him mentally.
I look at it just like any other experiment we have tried. If he comes in and gives us a few extra possessions or prevents a few extra opposing possessions with his rebounding and can score some garbage points he is worth the minimum. If not, he rides the bench and we go with what we have. It's worth a shot when I think about how many extra possessions that the Lakers had off of offensive rebounds in the playoffs last year. That is almost as important as being able to defend the Bynum/Gasol tandem IMO.
Offensively Gooden is better than anything we have on our frontline besides Duncan. Way better. Some ppl are blind around here.
No he is not a defensive player, Spurs are not signing him for that. We are getting him for cheap to beef up our offense. He will definitely help vs. Lakers. Smart move.
and for that argument that Bonner's feeling will be hurt...grow some balls
It's been frustrating all year with the obvious lack of athleticism down low and the lack of an obtainable player to fill that hole (Camby was close.) I don't see how Gooden helps address that weakness and if he doesn't (and maybe he's not supposed to,) does the FO have any options going forward to address this?
The answer is probably no and that's going to be tough to get past this year. 2007 is far behind us and not just a couple of teams have become faster and more athletic, but a lot of teams (LA, Bos, NO, Hou, UT, Por, Clv, Orl.) I'm not saying that PMB was the answer, but he's as close of an attempt at the answer that we've had available to us yet. No, he's not the golden god and I think it's funny that some were so quick to dog on others for being excited about this guy. Dunks are to basketball as homeruns are to baseball, but dunks don't necessarily address our problem either. Being fast enough or long enough to rotate for weakside help does address our weakness - we still don't have that. As a fan, I have to believe against the facts but the fact is we're still short one athletic/long big man and that's going to continue to bite us down the road.
whottt: i have some spare xanax dude... let me know if you need some...
sigh...
Now I remember why I started spending less time here.
Whott, you know we're going to sign Gooden. He will be in a Spurs uniform soon unless something unexpected foils the deal, so are you going to give him a chance or not?
Im all for bringing him in, I just hope he doesn't sport the patch on the back of his head...looks like a mangina.
What is going on with this insanity?
Great post. Preach on, brother.
I could also win the lottery.....
I think everyone's so twisted over Pops simply because everyone can see that he's got so much potential. His upside >>>>> Gooden. Unfortunately the Spurs don't have the luxury of time here. Get the vet and take our chances.
Pops is gonna be back, book that .......
LOL! I think xanax would not be the best for whott. He should have Chlorpromazine cause he's not in touch with reality. He needs an antipsychotic.whottt: i have some spare xanax dude... let me know if you need some...
Gooden signing would be good. He's not the worst defensive as some are making him out to be. The guy has always been a good rebounder, which is a lot more I can say for Oberto and Bonner.
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