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LMAO
and the playoffs weren't??
If Bonner is so weak minded he will shrivel up in the playoffs Gooden or no Gooden.
Bonner's playoff minutes were destined to be less than his regular season minutes. So far he's been a big help as he's kept Thomas' minutes down and he hasn't sucked. If the Spurs weren't able to rely on him during the regular season they may have ended up making a ty trade before the deadline. Maybe they would have been desperate enough to give Horry whatever amount of money that would lure him back. Or maybe the Spurs turn to Pops Barack-Obama. In any event, the Spurs would have been in bigger trouble this season without Bonner, who managed to improve despite the bogus claims of mental weakness by the resident crystal meth user.
LMAO
and the playoffs weren't??
If Bonner is so weak minded he will shrivel up in the playoffs Gooden or no Gooden.
Reports: Gooden Has Sports Hernia
The Spurs and Cavaliers have interest in Drew Gooden, who was bought out by the Kings on Sunday night, but there are reports of a possible injury.
The reports claim that Gooden is suffering from a sports hernia that could require surgery.
Cleveland is rumored to be deciding between Gooden and Joe Smith, who was bought out by the Thunder on Sunday night.
"Either guy helps them," said a general manager. "But Joe Smith is a solid vet who is good in the locker room who would understand his role. Gooden is a good player looking for his next contract."
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv..._sports_hernia
Funny. I recall when Smith was viewed as "a good player looking for his next contract."
Reports made it seem like the Joe Smith Cav deal was a done deal. Guess not...
Well #1, he doesn't seem to choke against the Celtics, they just happen to qualify as the hometown team for Bonner...and while chokers may choke(against the Lakers usually), chokers almost always tear up their home or old teams...see Smitty, Steve or Finley, Michael for a better example of this...and without a doubt, if the Hornets had been in NO when AJ was active...he'd have probably set the NBA record for consecutive threes against them.
Beyond all that...at a certain point even a choker becomes effective if Phil won't leave them.
For all intents and purposes you could say Steven Jackson was a Laker choker based on his performance against them in the 2003 WCSF...becuase I think he shot about 20% from 3 against them in that series...
Why wasn't that a choke? Because Phil had a defender glued to his ass for the entire series because he tore them up from 3 in the regular season...to the uncultured observer it would just seem the Spurs gritted that series out without the benefit of decent 3 shooting...
However to the knowledgable observer the impact of Jackson' season long frying of the Lakers from 3 was felt in the fourth quarters...when intead of Duncan facing triple teams from Fisher, Gheorge and Shaq...he was iso'ed on Shaq one on one...
Bonnere could have similar impact if he continues to hit at this incredibly high PCT...
You guys are insane for wanting to around with his shooting..yes he's a choker(definitely a Laker choker if nothing else) but he's shooting at about as high a level as it's humanly possible to shoot at in the NBA...
You don't around with that with a monkey wrench, hammer, and bullwhip...you handle that with Kidd gloves.
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Again, earlier reports had mentioned Gooden's groin injury. But now a sports hernia? If he has to have surgery, usually it requires 6-8 weeks recovery time. If this is true, this can't be good news. Well, it might be for Whotts and Mattie.
BTW...we do have one Laker killer on the roster no one is mentioning...he doesn't really have a rep as being one due to the fact that he never gets left open against them...but there is one other besides Mason...and his name is Bruce.
I do think this team as it is currently constructed is capable of winning the le, and I don't think Gooden is going to improve their chances of winning one.
Bonner will average a double-double in the playoffs. Guaranteed.
Maybe.
I don't view Horry as the solution to the Laker problem....but Phil doesn't leave him...that's a ridiculous statement. I said I like Horry if we can't get a Laker killer because he has a shown a willingness to play an enforcer's role...plus he's Horry and he just does stuff to help teams win. It's like Pop said...he thinks of things spontaneously in the middle of play that's better than what coaches think of even when analyzing game film or with the advantage of observing things from the sideline...it just never hurts to have someone with his IQ on the team....and it doesn't take that much energy to take a 3...Steve Kerr did it pretty effectively for us at Horry's age.
...Danny Ferry helped win a big game for us at Horry's age.
I agree with most of that except for the part where you said Phil doesn't leave him. Did you watch last year? Phil left Horry wide azz open the whole series. He basically played had whoever was guarding Horry play a one-man zone.
2004 wasn't quite as drastic but there was nobody within five feet of Horry last year when he didn't have the ball.
You're completely wrong...we didn't lose last year due to doubles. Brent Barry ensured that. We lost last year because the Hornets beat the crap out of us and we were tired from that series while the Lakers were rested and fresh.
Horry obviously doesn't play that well against LA...but I disagree that Phil doesn't consider him a factor...that's a ridiculous. Horry has made an entire career out of being a factor when teams don't consider him a factor...in fact that's what allows him to become a factor...teams considering him not to be one. Phil knows this better than anyone...
Phil never left Steve Kerr, Stephen Jackson, Brent Barry, Robert Horry...he left Bruce Bowen, for one game., and Bruce promptly dropped 27 on him..and it's never been attempted since.
The guys that get left open by Phil are your Terry Porter's, your Hedo's, your Michael Finley's, Danny Ferry's, Smitty's...and so far your Matt Bonner's...but Bonner is shooting at level to where Phil may not got for it...he hates doubling to begin with and the only team that has ever gotten him to do it consistenly is the Spurs...
You know Jacque Vaughn could be a factor against LA...Jacque knocks down that 18 footer when teams leave him open...
Thats a big maybe.
Damn, you filled your Barry quota quick that time
Phil respects Horry obviously but he didn't have anyone guard him last season. Re-watch if you don't believe me.
Damn, you filled your Barry quota quick that time
Thanks...but not as quickly as you just did, don't sell yourself short.
I'd rather not...in any case, the Spurs were just slow and worn down in that series, that's why they lost...too much Chris Paul. Add in the fact that our best energy guy was hurt and the refs were swallowing their whistles to the Lakers advantage...and well, acting like Horry was a reason we lost is worse than acting like he didn't have a lot to do with us beating the Hornets...or the Suns the year before.Phil respects Horry obviously but he didn't have anyone guard him last season. Re-watch if you don't believe me.
BTW timvp, since we finally got your attention in the d-leagues...I'd like to remind you that it is fantasy baseball season now...and you need to check the baseball forum. It's time to find out if you can draft a pitching staff
Gooden will take minutes away from Duncan. Gooden doesn't fit on the Spurs because he plays PF and we already got a PF...hmmm weren't those the words everyone used for Scola?
Complete turn around. Now you want a big PF LMAO
Even if that is the caseGooden will take minutes away from Duncan. Gooden doesn't fit on the Spurs because he plays PF and we already got a PF...hmmm weren't those the words everyone used for Scola?
Complete turn around. Now you want a big PF LMAO
Tim can play Center even though he is regestered as a PF
I mean when matt bonner came in the league he was regestered at PF and SF now he's playing Center
whottt, do you hate sunshine and embrace the rain?
Sometimes...sometimes there's nothing better in this world than a dark rainy day.
On those days, do you wear black and pick up your friend, the knife?
No..on those days I'm usually in an unsually good mood in fact. As long as it's not cold...cold sucks and cold rain really sucks. If we ever got snow it'd be one ting but since we don't it just sucks. I personally like extremes of either beach type weather or extremely dark weather and both will put me in high spirits...I do like the night probably more so than the day, don't usually get going till about 2AM in the morning.
What about you? You seem to have virtually no appreciation for those wonderful dark days...and I'd say that's a little, you know..abbie normal.
Is it because those days require you to up the ole' psychmed dosage? Is it just a little more difficult than usual to figure out what user name you will login with on those spooky dreary days?
It is always easier to like darkness instead of the light! Our culture has glorified the darkness!!!
Darkness came first...and without darkness there could be no light.
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