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    Darkness came first...and without darkness there could be no light.
    Not to get religious.....but God said let there be light first!!

    Sorry!!


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    Darkness is just the absence of light.

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    Not to get religious.....but God said let there be light first!!

    Sorry!!

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    I'm far from a religious nut, and even I know darkness -> light.

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    Not to get religious.....but God said let there be light first!!

    Sorry!!

    While that may be technically accurate in regards to what God said, it doesn't mean the darkness didn't come first...observe:

    1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.


    In any case...i refuse to discuss Genesis with people who have probably never engaged in heavy mushroom usage as you guys are inhibited spiritually, out of touch with the planet and have turned a blind eye to the abundant spiritual resources God created for us and intended for us to use on this planet...what they were using when Genesis was written and Christianity was founded.

    People who refuse to utlize these plants, yet attempt to be spiritual are the ones that give religion a bad name and conduct inquisitions, crucifixions, stonings, suicide bombings and witch burnings and like that.

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    I'm far from a religious nut, and even I know darkness -> light.
    Dex,

    I know that scripture too!

    I just wanted to debate whott!!


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    I would've gone with the chicken and the egg tactic.

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    While that may be technically accurate in regards to what God said, it doesn't mean the darkness didn't come first...observe:

    1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.


    In any case...i refuse to discuss Genesis with people who have probably never engaged in heavy mushroom usage as you guys are inhibited spiritually, out of touch with the planet and have turned a blind eye to the abundant spiritual resources God created for us and intended for us to use on this planet...what they were using when Genesis was created and Christianity was founded.

    People who refuse to utlize these plants, yet attempt to be spiritual are the ones that give religion a bad name and conduct inquisitions and witch burnings and like that.
    Whott,

    I'm quite religious(and I'm not here to convert anyone...let me address that right now!!) and I know that scripture from Genesis quite well.

    I was just needling you and having some fun with your darkness theory.


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    Yes but have you ever previously and are you now willing to take what they were taking then? Or do you just take the word of the man, the political man, the capitalit(or the socialist one) man, that the plants(that god made) are bad? Even though nowhere has God ever said anything about those plants being bad...and why would he? I mean he was the one that made them.

    If not then you are merely parroting the words of men...and have likely never encountered anything close to God.

    Cling to religion all you want...but if you cut yourself off from those plants you are cutting yourself off from God. And that's when religion becomes a means of control...a bad and misguided thing.

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    Yes but have you ever previously and are you now willing to take what they were taking then? Or do you just take the word of the man, the political man, the capitalit(or the socialist one) man, that the plants(that god made) are bad?

    If so then you are merely parroting the words of men...and have likely never encountered anything close to God.

    Cling to religion all you want...but if you cut yourself off from those plants you are cutting yourself off from God. And that's when religion becomes a means of control...a bad and misguided thing.
    Whott,

    This is a Spurs forum and I won't go into a deep religious vs. philosophical debate.

    But my belief in Christ has changed my life and other's people lives I've seen around me. And I will leave it there!

    If you want to discuss it further...PM me and I will be happy to talk with you about it!

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    Darkness came first...and without darkness there could be no light.
    "It's always night, or we wouldn't need light."
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    Did you know that the only thing mentioned as a drug and warned of being misused in the entire bible, is alcohol? Yet is it the only one freely available to us...

    In fact the bible clearly said that the plants that yeild seed after their kind were God's blessing to us...our meat. And he also warned that hyprocrites would discourage us from using them...


    And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. -- Ezekiel 34:29
    Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth. To you it will be for meat." And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)
    "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall speak lies in hypocrisy commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)

    We listen to men when we outlaw these plants...we aren't listening to God...that's probably why we're all such complete assholes. And becoming bigger ones with every passing year. Just think...70 years ago someassholes said they were bad and now we think these plants that have accompanied us for all of the millenia of our existence on this planet were created in the sixties by a bunch of hippies.

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    Can we stop talking about religion and get back to talking about GOoden?

    So when will we find out about gooden for sure? If we don't sign him can we keep Pops? Or would it be too late?

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    Can we stop talking about religion and get back to talking about GOoden?

    So when will we find out about gooden for sure? If we don't sign him can we keep Pops? Or would it be too late?
    Th two are inter onnected...because anyone that thinks Gooden is going to be a good pickup that will help us to the promised land is believing in a false messiah and obviously on drugs.

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    Can we stop talking about religion and get back to talking about GOoden?

    So when will we find out about gooden for sure? If we don't sign him can we keep Pops? Or would it be too late?
    Yes sir!!

    Gooden clears waivers tomorrow. We should know late tomorrow or Thursday for sure.

    I know that NBA Coast to Coast on ESPN tonight will be talking about it.

    8:30 CST

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    Isn't there another forum to discuss religion? Thank you:}

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    Yes sir!!

    Gooden clears waivers tomorrow. We should know late tomorrow or Thursday for sure.

    I know that NBA Coast to Coast on ESPN tonight will be talking about it.

    8:30 CST
    "You will deny me three times before this day is over"


    Strike one.

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    Isn't there another forum to discuss religion? Thank you:}



    There's only like 630 threads discussing Gooden on this forum...your questions could be answerred in any of the many others discussing it...

    So why are you here, in this one? Telling people what to talk about?

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    whottt give it a break.

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    Here ya go:

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...118435&page=21

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118546



    Tell me...exactly what is so different about the Gooden discussion in this thread VS those other two that it's absolutely essential for you two to regulate this one?

    Furthermore, this is ST...and there's no such animal as hi-jacking threads here.

    There's also no such thing as forum police here...plenty of other boards where there are though..where that sort of thing might even be appreciated.

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    There's only like 630 threads discussing Gooden on this forum...your questions could be answerred in any of the many others discussing it...

    So why are you here, in this one? Telling people what to talk about?
    Take a chill pill Whottt-I enjoy sports that is why I am here. It's obvious this is a sports thread. I am not forcing you to do anything. Its crystal clear you can discuss other non sport related issues in the other forums. You're just being stubborn. Why am I surprised...sigh...

    Perhaps a nice dinner with a glass of vino might relax you.

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    Yes,, I am the forum police. Whottt you are banned!! Marhill can stay and discuss whatever the he wants to discuss. However, you, Whottts will be fined! And, I will be taking all your vbookie cash until you straighten out.

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    1) In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum.

    So at the beginning it was the Word.

    Light came in as fourth, only.

    4) in ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum,

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    I think the most spectacular argument is that Spurs should not hire Goodman not to irritate Bonner.

    So if Oberto and Thomas are sent packing,
    expect Bonner to average 30 and 15.

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    Maybe if he always played the whole game and never fouled out. He'd have to play even crappier d, so as to stay in the game. Hope Gooden can improve on d before POs start, and have a rudimentary understanding of the Spurs system.

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    It's not your fault. It's not your fault kid, it's not your fault.

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