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    Not sure Gooden could even make the Lakers powerful roster.

    But good for you!
    Yea seriously, how could he make the roster over guys like Mbenga?

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    I like him. He has a Spurs mentality. He plays tough defense and is not selfish. He just does his job. That's exactly the kind of player we need.
    LOL WHAT? plays tough defense? gooden is a terrible defender and makes bonehead decisions on the court...not a spurs kind of player at all.

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    I'm not getting the all the hype this guy is getting. He is being overrated and he is injured. Why so much excitement for signing a player that might not even be able top play?

    I hope I do eat these words though I really do but there more I am seeing, I'm just seeing a disaster.

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    I'm not getting the all the hype this guy is getting. He is being overrated and he is injured. Why so much excitement for signing a player that might not even be able top play?

    I hope I do eat these words though I really do but there more I am seeing, I'm just seeing a disaster.
    A disaster?

    A. The Spurs got him for nothing
    B. They wouldn't have gotten him if this injury were serious. No one is that dumb
    C. No one is overating him, this isn't George Hill, this is a big who averages 13 points and 9 rebounds and will be playing next to Tim Duncan.

    How the does disaster come into this?


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    A disaster?

    A. The Spurs got him for nothing
    B. They wouldn't have gotten him if this injury were serious. No one is that dumb
    C. No one is overating him, this isn't George Hill, this is a big who averages 13 points and 9 rebounds and will be playing next to Tim Duncan.

    How the does disaster come into this?


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    yeah!!!! Unfortunately, the spurs made a big mistake that year when they let the 55th overall pick walk out of their door....

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    A disaster?

    A. The Spurs got him for nothing
    B. They wouldn't have gotten him if this injury were serious. No one is that dumb
    C. No one is overating him, this isn't George Hill, this is a big who averages 13 points and 9 rebounds and will be playing next to Tim Duncan.

    How the does disaster come into this?


    You honestly think he is going to give the Spurs 13 points and 9 rebounds?

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    I suggest to reserve judgement until he plays to avoid the risk of looking stupid.

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    You honestly think he is going to give the Spurs 13 points and 9 rebounds?
    I would say considering that's his average that it's quite possible.

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    I suggest to reserve judgement until he plays to avoid the risk of looking stupid.
    True, like I was saying I might be eating my words in a few days and if he does come in and contribute to our team, more power to him. I"m just calling it as I see it right now.


    Hmm, I wonder how crow tastes with katchup?

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    Yeah POPS Looked really good...but GOOODEN yeah finally someone to help out down low let him take his time we need him but in the playoffs more than right now. Take a look a the future the spurs have. Ian,Hairston,mason,hill,Parker,POPS? then if they can get one of our euros to sign we don't look too bad...young but good.

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    Gooden's aggresiveness is a good thing. I agree with you. But that's not going to have some huge profound effect on how Duncan gets guarded, which was the only point I was trying to make. Doesn't matter whether it results in Gooden getting a good look at the rim or a perimeter guy getting a good look at a 3, doubling Tim Duncan is still going to be the lesser of the evils.
    Do you remember David Robinson's last season? Do you think having him on the floor took some of the heat off of Tim? Let me make it easier... who would you rather have on the floor with Tim: Robinson in his last season, or Rasho Nesterovic the following season?

    When you compare D-Rob's 02-03 numbers to Rasho's 03-04 numbers, on a per-36 minute basis, they are really very similar. David averaged 11.7 points, 10.9 rbs, 2.4 blocks, and shot .469. Rasho averaged 10.9 points, 9.7 rbs, 2.5 blocks, and shot .469. And remember, that is adjusted to a per-36 basis, so it's not a matter of who played more minutes. Both were 7-footers, and both played the 5.

    Based on that, it doesn't look like David was any more of a threat in 02-03 than Rasho was in 03-04. There was obviously a big difference between the two on the offensive end. But "knowing" it is one thing, and measuring it is another. I'm saying that one indicator is free throw attempts. David averaged 4.6 FTA/36, compared to 1.7 FTA/36 for Rasho. (And please don't try to blame it on touches. Rasho took 10.7 FGA, compared to 9.0 FGA for Robinson.) They put Robinson on the line more, because they had to. So which one of those guys do you think took more heat off of Tim?

    Go do a search on FGA's for NBA centers. Look closely at the players at the top, middle, and bottom of the list. The differences will be obvious. I'll give you one good example: Dwight Howard averages 20.9 ppg, while Zach Randolph averages 21.8 ppg. Which one of those guys is more worrisome for opposing defenses? You can get a pretty good clue from the fact that Howard gets 10.7 FTA/36 vs. 4.8 FTA/36 for Randolph. Dwight Howard doesn't dominate a game because of a few more free throw attempts. He gets the free throw attempts because he can dominate a game. The FTA's are a symptom.

    Gooden "only" gets about 3.8 FTA/36 minutes. Not up there with the big boys, but a of a lot better than the 1.2-1.8 that all of our other bigs since David have gotten. And it's enough to make a difference to Tim. I've watched this stat for a long time, and I'm telling you... the difference between a guy that gets 1.2 FTA in the low post and a guy that gets 3.8 FTA is huge in terms of how much attention the opposing defenses have to pay to them.

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    Do you remember David Robinson's last season? Do you think having him on the floor took some of the heat off of Tim? Let me make it easier... who would you rather have on the floor with Tim: Robinson in his last season, or Rasho Nesterovic the following season?

    When you compare D-Rob's 02-03 numbers to Rasho's 03-04 numbers, on a per-36 minute basis, they are really very similar. David averaged 11.7 points, 10.9 rbs, 2.4 blocks, and shot .469. Rasho averaged 10.9 points, 9.7 rbs, 2.5 blocks, and shot .469. And remember, that is adjusted to a per-36 basis, so it's not a matter of who played more minutes. Both were 7-footers, and both played the 5.

    Based on that, it doesn't look like David was any more of a threat in 02-03 than Rasho was in 03-04. There was obviously a big difference between the two on the offensive end. But "knowing" it is one thing, and measuring it is another. I'm saying that one indicator is free throw attempts. David averaged 4.6 FTA/36, compared to 1.7 FTA/36 for Rasho. (And please don't try to blame it on touches. Rasho took 10.7 FGA, compared to 9.0 FGA for Robinson.) They put Robinson on the line more, because they had to. So which one of those guys do you think took more heat off of Tim?

    Go do a search on FGA's for NBA centers. Look closely at the players at the top, middle, and bottom of the list. The differences will be obvious. I'll give you one good example: Dwight Howard averages 20.9 ppg, while Zach Randolph averages 21.8 ppg. Which one of those guys is more worrisome for opposing defenses? You can get a pretty good clue from the fact that Howard gets 10.7 FTA/36 vs. 4.8 FTA/36 for Randolph. Dwight Howard doesn't dominate a game because of a few more free throw attempts. He gets the free throw attempts because he can dominate a game. The FTA's are a symptom.

    Gooden "only" gets about 3.8 FTA/36 minutes. Not up there with the big boys, but a of a lot better than the 1.2-1.8 that all of our other bigs since David have gotten. And it's enough to make a difference to Tim. I've watched this stat for a long time, and I'm telling you... the difference between a guy that gets 1.2 FTA in the low post and a guy that gets 3.8 FTA is huge in terms of how much attention the opposing defenses have to pay to them.
    fantastic and well thought out post.

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    Do you remember David Robinson's last season? Do you think having him on the floor took some of the heat off of Tim? Let me make it easier... who would you rather have on the floor with Tim: Robinson in his last season, or Rasho Nesterovic the following season?

    When you compare D-Rob's 02-03 numbers to Rasho's 03-04 numbers, on a per-36 minute basis, they are really very similar. David averaged 11.7 points, 10.9 rbs, 2.4 blocks, and shot .469. Rasho averaged 10.9 points, 9.7 rbs, 2.5 blocks, and shot .469. And remember, that is adjusted to a per-36 basis, so it's not a matter of who played more minutes. Both were 7-footers, and both played the 5.

    Based on that, it doesn't look like David was any more of a threat in 02-03 than Rasho was in 03-04. There was obviously a big difference between the two on the offensive end. But "knowing" it is one thing, and measuring it is another. I'm saying that one indicator is free throw attempts. David averaged 4.6 FTA/36, compared to 1.7 FTA/36 for Rasho. (And please don't try to blame it on touches. Rasho took 10.7 FGA, compared to 9.0 FGA for Robinson.) They put Robinson on the line more, because they had to. So which one of those guys do you think took more heat off of Tim?

    Go do a search on FGA's for NBA centers. Look closely at the players at the top, middle, and bottom of the list. The differences will be obvious. I'll give you one good example: Dwight Howard averages 20.9 ppg, while Zach Randolph averages 21.8 ppg. Which one of those guys is more worrisome for opposing defenses? You can get a pretty good clue from the fact that Howard gets 10.7 FTA/36 vs. 4.8 FTA/36 for Randolph. Dwight Howard doesn't dominate a game because of a few more free throw attempts. He gets the free throw attempts because he can dominate a game. The FTA's are a symptom.

    Gooden "only" gets about 3.8 FTA/36 minutes. Not up there with the big boys, but a of a lot better than the 1.2-1.8 that all of our other bigs since David have gotten. And it's enough to make a difference to Tim. I've watched this stat for a long time, and I'm telling you... the difference between a guy that gets 1.2 FTA in the low post and a guy that gets 3.8 FTA is huge in terms of how much attention the opposing defenses have to pay to them.
    good one!

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    Gooden is good offensive player. From what I have seen of him, he has Malik Rose type range. He can post up and has some athleticism. Nothing major. On defense, he isn't very tough on the low post and seems disinterested at times. But my opinion of him is skewed because I usually saw him play against Tim Duncan and the Spurs. TD usually dominated him on a regular basis. That being said, I'm thrilled that he is a Spur. This can only help the Spurs, as others have stated.

    I was extremely impressed with Pops Mensah-Bonsu. His athleticism and quickness at his size made me dream of a guy who could matchup with Amare Stoudemire, Lamar Odom, maybe even LeBron. It's disappointing not to see him get some extended minutes out on the floor. Obviously he isn't ready yet and far from a sure thing. But I liked what I saw and I hope we keep him.

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    Drew Gooden

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    Andrew Gooden San Antonio Spurs — No. 90 Power forward Height 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) Weight 250 lb (113.4 kg) League NBA Born September 24, 1981 (1981-09-24) (age 27)
    Oakland, California Nationality American High school El Cerrito College Kansas Draft 4th overall, 2002
    Memphis Grizzlies Pro career 2002–present Former teams Memphis Grizzlies (2002–2003)
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    San Antonio Spurs (2009-present) Profile Info Page Andrew Melvin "Drew" Gooden[1] (born September 24 1981 in Oakland, California) is an American professional basketball player who plays for the San Antonio Spurs of the NBA. Gooden is a 6'10", 250 lbs. power forward from the University of Kansas.



    High school
    Before Gooden played the center position at El Cerrito High School, he attended Bloomington High School in Bloomington, Illinois for a half semester in his freshman year. After going back to California, he, as a senior, led his Gauchos to the 1999 California Interscholastic Federation Boys Division III championship game. Washington Union High School (led by NBA guard DeShawn Stevenson) won the championship game over El Cerrito HS by a score of 77-71.[2]

    [edit] College

    Gooden joined Nick Collison and Kirk Hinrich in a trio of fabulous freshmen for the 1999-2000 season. Although at times Gooden was frustrated with the way things were going his freshman year, he finally adjusted to coach Roy Williams' system.
    In his freshman year, KU went 24-10 and lost to the Duke Blue Devils in the second round of the 2000 NCAA Basketball Tournament. The next season, the Jayhawks went 26-7 and fell to the Illinois Fighting Illini, coached by future KU coach Bill Self, in the 2001 NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen.
    His most successful season was 2002, where he led the nation in rebounding and was named NABC national player of the year. The Jayhawks went 33-4, including 16-0 in Big 12 Conference play to win KU its first conference championship since 1998. The Jayhawks also advanced to their first Final Four in the 2002 NCAA Tournament since 1993; however, they lost to the eventual national champion Maryland Terrapins in the semifinal.
    For being named NABC player of the year for 2002, Gooden's jersey (#0) was retired in 2003, at halftime of a KU home game with Kansas State in what would have been his senior year had he not foregone his senior year for the NBA.

    [edit] NBA Draft

    Gooden declared himself for the draft after his impressive junior year. Out of the University of Kansas, Gooden was selected as the 4th overall pick by the Memphis Grizzlies in the 2002 NBA Draft.

    [edit] Professional

    As a professional, Gooden has established himself as a solid power forward, consistently bringing down double digit numbers in points and rebounds. He is also considered a good guy on and off the court, named one of the "Good Guys in Sports" by The Sporting News.[3]

    [edit] Cleveland Cavaliers

    After the Carlos Boozer controversy, the Cleveland Cavaliers needed another power forward. On July 23, 2004 Cleveland obtained Gooden, Anderson Varejao, and Steven Hunter for Tony Battie and two second-round draft picks from the Orlando Magic via trade.[4]
    Gooden re-signed with the Cavaliers for three more years on August 14, 2006.[5] He agreed to a three-year, $23 million contract.[6]
    In the 2006-07 NBA season, he averaged 11.1 points per game and 7.9 rebounds per game.[7]

    [edit] Chicago Bulls

    On February 21, 2008, Gooden was traded from the Cavs (along with Larry Hughes, Cedric Simmons, and Shannon Brown) to the Chicago Bulls as a part of a three-team, 11-player deal with the Bulls and Seattle SuperSonics.[8] This trade occurred on the date of the 2007-2008 season's trade deadline.

    [edit] Sacramento Kings

    On February 18, 2009, Gooden was traded to the Sacramento Kings in a six man deal that included Andres Nocioni and Cedric Simmons.[9]
    On March 1, 2009 Gooden was bought out of his contract making him a free agent after playing just one game for the Kings. [10]

    [edit] San Antonio Spurs

    On March 3, 2009, Gooden was signed to the San Antonio Spurs


    Was he already signed?

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    Drew Gooden

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    Andrew Gooden San Antonio Spurs — No. 90 Power forward Height 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) Weight 250 lb (113.4 kg) League NBA Born September 24, 1981 (1981-09-24) (age 27)
    Oakland, California Nationality American High school El Cerrito College Kansas Draft 4th overall, 2002
    Memphis Grizzlies Pro career 2002–present Former teams Memphis Grizzlies (2002–2003)
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    San Antonio Spurs (2009-present) Profile Info Page Andrew Melvin "Drew" Gooden[1] (born September 24 1981 in Oakland, California) is an American professional basketball player who plays for the San Antonio Spurs of the NBA. Gooden is a 6'10", 250 lbs. power forward from the University of Kansas.



    High school
    Before Gooden played the center position at El Cerrito High School, he attended Bloomington High School in Bloomington, Illinois for a half semester in his freshman year. After going back to California, he, as a senior, led his Gauchos to the 1999 California Interscholastic Federation Boys Division III championship game. Washington Union High School (led by NBA guard DeShawn Stevenson) won the championship game over El Cerrito HS by a score of 77-71.[2]

    [edit] College

    Gooden joined Nick Collison and Kirk Hinrich in a trio of fabulous freshmen for the 1999-2000 season. Although at times Gooden was frustrated with the way things were going his freshman year, he finally adjusted to coach Roy Williams' system.
    In his freshman year, KU went 24-10 and lost to the Duke Blue Devils in the second round of the 2000 NCAA Basketball Tournament. The next season, the Jayhawks went 26-7 and fell to the Illinois Fighting Illini, coached by future KU coach Bill Self, in the 2001 NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen.
    His most successful season was 2002, where he led the nation in rebounding and was named NABC national player of the year. The Jayhawks went 33-4, including 16-0 in Big 12 Conference play to win KU its first conference championship since 1998. The Jayhawks also advanced to their first Final Four in the 2002 NCAA Tournament since 1993; however, they lost to the eventual national champion Maryland Terrapins in the semifinal.
    For being named NABC player of the year for 2002, Gooden's jersey (#0) was retired in 2003, at halftime of a KU home game with Kansas State in what would have been his senior year had he not foregone his senior year for the NBA.

    [edit] NBA Draft

    Gooden declared himself for the draft after his impressive junior year. Out of the University of Kansas, Gooden was selected as the 4th overall pick by the Memphis Grizzlies in the 2002 NBA Draft.

    [edit] Professional

    As a professional, Gooden has established himself as a solid power forward, consistently bringing down double digit numbers in points and rebounds. He is also considered a good guy on and off the court, named one of the "Good Guys in Sports" by The Sporting News.[3]

    [edit] Cleveland Cavaliers

    After the Carlos Boozer controversy, the Cleveland Cavaliers needed another power forward. On July 23, 2004 Cleveland obtained Gooden, Anderson Varejao, and Steven Hunter for Tony Battie and two second-round draft picks from the Orlando Magic via trade.[4]
    Gooden re-signed with the Cavaliers for three more years on August 14, 2006.[5] He agreed to a three-year, $23 million contract.[6]
    In the 2006-07 NBA season, he averaged 11.1 points per game and 7.9 rebounds per game.[7]

    [edit] Chicago Bulls

    On February 21, 2008, Gooden was traded from the Cavs (along with Larry Hughes, Cedric Simmons, and Shannon Brown) to the Chicago Bulls as a part of a three-team, 11-player deal with the Bulls and Seattle SuperSonics.[8] This trade occurred on the date of the 2007-2008 season's trade deadline.

    [edit] Sacramento Kings

    On February 18, 2009, Gooden was traded to the Sacramento Kings in a six man deal that included Andres Nocioni and Cedric Simmons.[9]
    On March 1, 2009 Gooden was bought out of his contract making him a free agent after playing just one game for the Kings. [10]

    [edit] San Antonio Spurs

    On March 3, 2009, Gooden was signed to the San Antonio Spurs


    Was he already signed?
    not sure but who ever edited that must have been a huge gooden fan.

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    not sure but who ever edited that must have been a huge gooden fan.
    Yeah..either that or a huge Spurs fan that really likes Gooden..lol

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    As a professional, Gooden has established himself as a solid power forward, consistently bringing down double digit numbers in points and rebounds. He is also considered a good guy on and off the court, named one of the "Good Guys in Sports" by The Sporting News.
    I guess he is a Spur...lol

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    Do you remember David Robinson's last season? Do you think having him on the floor took some of the heat off of Tim? Let me make it easier... who would you rather have on the floor with Tim: Robinson in his last season, or Rasho Nesterovic the following season?

    When you compare D-Rob's 02-03 numbers to Rasho's 03-04 numbers, on a per-36 minute basis, they are really very similar. David averaged 11.7 points, 10.9 rbs, 2.4 blocks, and shot .469. Rasho averaged 10.9 points, 9.7 rbs, 2.5 blocks, and shot .469. And remember, that is adjusted to a per-36 basis, so it's not a matter of who played more minutes. Both were 7-footers, and both played the 5.

    Based on that, it doesn't look like David was any more of a threat in 02-03 than Rasho was in 03-04. There was obviously a big difference between the two on the offensive end. But "knowing" it is one thing, and measuring it is another. I'm saying that one indicator is free throw attempts. David averaged 4.6 FTA/36, compared to 1.7 FTA/36 for Rasho. (And please don't try to blame it on touches. Rasho took 10.7 FGA, compared to 9.0 FGA for Robinson.) They put Robinson on the line more, because they had to. So which one of those guys do you think took more heat off of Tim?

    Go do a search on FGA's for NBA centers. Look closely at the players at the top, middle, and bottom of the list. The differences will be obvious. I'll give you one good example: Dwight Howard averages 20.9 ppg, while Zach Randolph averages 21.8 ppg. Which one of those guys is more worrisome for opposing defenses? You can get a pretty good clue from the fact that Howard gets 10.7 FTA/36 vs. 4.8 FTA/36 for Randolph. Dwight Howard doesn't dominate a game because of a few more free throw attempts. He gets the free throw attempts because he can dominate a game. The FTA's are a symptom.

    Gooden "only" gets about 3.8 FTA/36 minutes. Not up there with the big boys, but a of a lot better than the 1.2-1.8 that all of our other bigs since David have gotten. And it's enough to make a difference to Tim. I've watched this stat for a long time, and I'm telling you... the difference between a guy that gets 1.2 FTA in the low post and a guy that gets 3.8 FTA is huge in terms of how much attention the opposing defenses have to pay to them.
    solid post.

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    WHat the ? 1.5m?!? WOW.

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    This will only work if Gooden adjusts to the Spurs way of doing things. Not the other way around. Maybe being traded by a few teams and bought out by the kings sets him with an at ude of trying to fit in. IF not, he better get used to the role of doghouse minder.

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    At least something happened ! now the question who is gonna be waived ? hairston ? pops ? udoka ?
    Hairston proved that he can play..slashing basket, ocasionaly nails jumper, dunking all over the place and rebound, not to mention become defender player (he can learn alot from Master Bruce in the art of defense)..from minutes that he receiving, he definitely stay...
    Vaugh is going to stay..i just knew it somehow Pop loved him, and he did everything the team ask for and work hard even though no fans believed on him. He should stay for the sake of respect for what he is done.
    Pops...this guy is kinnda shaky. One point he is really good dunking,blocking and rebounding and he can shoot FT...but he still need alot to learn. I will keep him if I was Spurs since Splitter is not coming why not take a chance on a guy who can score 26 points and MVP in D League?? He still got time to learn Spurs system.


    The one who is going is: UDOKA..his contract is expiring, he should be gone.
    UDOKA SHOULD BEGONE..but my insticts Pop is the one is going to be kicked out....ANYONE AGREE WITH ME???

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