I had to read it 3 times.
Ultimately, I agree.
Rush is just doing his job. He is a conservative talk show host -- nothing more.
He'd be equally critical if it were Hillary or anyone else in the White House.
But HOW DARE he say anything negative about the messiah. Personally, I'd rather listen to Dennis Prager.
constantly calling him the messiah only hurts your cause even more.
keep it up.
Echo chamber, Blue Team version.
Rush's high negative recognition numbers (Carville alert!)may also be related to his high market saturation. Rush is a polarizer, and not by driving at the gooey reasonable center IMO.
Last edited by Winehole23; 03-04-2009 at 12:24 PM.
that was deep
I guess my point is that gooey "reasonable" center is very impressionable, and variable. They swing to the right, they swing to the left, sometimes they get care about issues, sometimes they just stay at home and watch American Idol . . . they're always in play for both parties. Rush can reach a lot of these people. Or at least part of his message can reach these people.
"I'm really upset that my ideology isn't getting a fair shake and people aren't getting the message about how right it is, but I will continue to be sarcastic, come across mean-spirited, and obviously distort the opposing ideology in such a way as to make it obvious to young people that I am willing to lie to make my case. I will then act surprised when they don't trust me anymore."constantly calling him the messiah only hurts your cause even more.
keep it up.
As a liberal and Obama supporter: keep calling him the "messiah", please. It just makes it easier to make the case that you and people who believe as you do care more about scoring poltical points than, say, actuallly solving problems.
Be my guest and don't stop using that word.
Yes he can, but you don't sound very sanguine about it, doobs.
Are you really psyched up for Rush as your poster, gimme cap and bumper sticker guy for the next four years?
The market has tanked 25% since Obama took over, and the Democratic Party and Obama Administration is worried about a talk radio host.
Hope and change you can believe in
you must be exhausted.....the way you ran from your other thread.The market has tanked 25% since Obama took over, and the Democratic Party and Obama Administration is worried about a talk radio host.
Hope and change you can believe in
Ok, from now on, I'll refer to him as "his Elegance".
Seriously, has anyone in world history ever been this hyped without accomplishing jack ? All he's done is spend more money than any president in history and talk the economy into the abyss. I'm not the one pushing commemorative plates and coins and running an hour long show comparing Obama to Lincoln.
Wow. This just in.
Dems' Limbaugh Plan
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html
Top Democrats believe they have struck political gold by depicting Rush Limbaugh as the new face of the Republican Party, a full-scale effort first hatched by some of the most familiar names in politics and now being guided in part from inside the White House.
The strategy took shape after Democratic strategists Stanley Greenberg and James Carville included Limbaugh’s name in an October poll and learned their longtime tormentor was deeply unpopular with many Americans, especially younger voters. Then the conservative talk-radio host emerged as an unapologetic critic of Barack Obama shortly before his inauguration, when even many Republicans were showering him with praise.
Soon it clicked: Democrats realized they could roll out a new GOP bogeyman for the post-Bush era by turning to an old one in Limbaugh, a polarizing figure since he rose to prominence in the 1990s.
Limbaugh is embracing the line of attack, suggesting a certain symbiosis between him and his political adversaries.
"The administration is enabling me,” he wrote in an e-mail to POLITICO. “They are expanding my profile, expanding my audience and expanding my influence. An ever larger number of people are now being exposed to the antidote to Obamaism: conservatism, as articulated by me. An ever larger number of people are now exposed to substantive warnings, analysis and criticism of Obama's policies and intentions, a ‘story’ I own because the [mainstream media] is largely the Obama Press Office.”
The bigger, the better, agreed Carville. “It’s great for us, great for him, great for the press,” he said of Limbaugh. “The only people he’s not good for are the actual Republicans in Congress.”
If Limbaugh himself were to coin a phrase for it, he might call it Operation Rushbo – an idea that started out simply enough but quickly proved to be deeply resonant by a rapid succession of events, say Democrats inside and outside the West Wing.
The seeds were planted in October after Democracy Corps, the Democratic polling company run by Carville and Greenberg, included Limbaugh’s name in a survey and found that many Americans just don’t like him.
“His positives for voters under 40 was 11 percent,” Carville recalled with a degree of amazement, alluding to a question about whether voters had a positive or negative view of the talk show host.
Paul Begala, a close friend of Carville, Greenberg and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, said they found Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign.
Then came what Begala called “the tripwire.”
“I hope he fails,” Limbaugh said of Obama on his show four days before the president was sworn in. It was a time when Obama’s approval ratings were soaring, but more than that, polls showed even people who didn’t vote for him badly wanted him to succeed, coming to office at a time of economic meltdown.
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee was the first to jump on the statement, sending the video to its membership to raise cash and stir a pe ion drive.
Which one was that? Sorry, some of us are working and don't have time to hit F5 all day long on the politics forum.
Rasmussen poll: Just 11% of Republicans identify Rush Limbaugh as the leader of the GOP, based on this question:
via TPM."Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party -- he says jump and they say how high.'"
sounds like you didn't prepare very well for the future.
Look, I'm just talking about politics here. I think the Democrats are making a mistake by going after Rush. If the administration really does want to elevate Rush, they're playing with fire. They think, maybe, that they can straw-man the GOP and pretend like all opposition to Obama can be dismissed as directives from their "leader" Rush. But, like I said before, there's a huge dual risk in all this.
The thing is, Rush is very good at getting the stupid conservatives agitated and voting, and he can provide the gooey, unprincipled middle an alternative voice to ruling party, a counterpoint. As the budget deficit projections will likely be revised downwards, people will become upset. The stimulus package, regardless of its merit, contains obvious liberal pet projects that piss people off. In part because of Rush, the GOP is finding its voice and its strategy for reconnecting with the American people.
Regarding my own thoughts on Rush . . . who cares, really? There's so much about the Republican Party that I dislike already . . . it's sad to say, but I would prefer Rush leading the GOP to Palin.
I mean, he's an entertaining guy who's very talented. Do I listen to him? Very rarely. Do I think he's an influential person, perhaps an asset for conservatives? Sure. But I don't look to him for ideas or information.
Touche'!
This is a bad bad mistake by Obama. He's gone after Hannity...yeah Hannity is an ass, that's not the point...the one WH reporter...Jack Tapper...Jim Cramer ....and the CNBC reporter that went off on Obama....Rick Santelli and now Limbaugh.
It's looking a lot like a Nixon type 'enemies list' that was one of the articles of Nixons impeachment:
'Conspiracy to Suppress Free Speech of named persons designated as political "enemies" of President Nixon..... for the purpose of inhibiting or preventing their exercise of First amendment rights.'
Nothing good can come from Obama doing this type of stuff. You're the president. People are going to disagree with you and say things you don't like. It's called the 1st amendment. It's in the Bill of Rights, if you'd like to read it.
Last edited by word; 03-04-2009 at 12:41 PM.
was winehole born after nov 2008. He seems to be appalled and bewildered that opposition to the majority party is a new 21st century phenomena.
meant to edit and hit quote...
what happened to delete anyway ?
So are you against taking a statement out of context? Seems to me that your heroes on talk radio make a living off of out of context statements.
Palin has her own state to lead. Was anybody else in the running? Michael Steele?
Are conservatives against taking a statement out of context and misleading the public about it? I would love to hear the answer...
Link please or start a new thread. Thx.
Go yourself. Thx.
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