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He sucks.
Roy Williams has had enough.
Tired of awaiting news of his fate, Williams instructed his agent to ask the Cowboys to either cut or trade him by today, the Dallas Morning News reported.
The Cowboys have put Williams on the trading block, but there hasn't been any takers so far because teams believe he'll eventually be released.
Dallas can save roughly $2 million against the cap by cutting the former Oklahoma star.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...to-be-cut.html
He sucks.
grant that er's wish..
Keep him
Do you realize that ANY QB, I repeat, ANY QB can just toss the ball over roy and get an easy TD? I love Roy's play closer to the line of scrimmage, but his coverage blows. It's time for him to go.
watch the raiders sign him for a 5 year contract worth $80 mil
Trade him for like a 4th round draft pick, just don't release him - bench his ass. There has to be some way to screw him over for his regression in play the past few years.
This guy is in no position to demand anything. He can be cut today tomorrow or on the first of June to possible reduce salary cap issues in 09. His lousy play the last three years does not give him the leverage in this situation. No one is lining up to trade for him. He's been stealing money since he signed a too big contract extension.
This guy has declined more as a player who should still be in his prime than any player I've seen for the Cowboys other than Thomas Henderson, and TH had an explainable reason - drugs. This guy is always looking to blame someone else for his failures. That's the sooner in him I guess.
More than a player decline, I think the league has just figured out how to exploit him. In turn, the Cowboys have had to make some adjustments for him, which has taken him away from the things that he was once doing well.
The shelf life for safeties who can't cover anybody is relatively short. Even Lynch looked like Ronny Lott compared to Williams in the secondary.
The guy made several Pro Bowls. Last season before he got hurt noone was really talking about trading him or letting him go. They were ready to see if his off season prep would help the following year. He did not get the chance because he was injuried in training camp. The Cowboys were willing to give him a shot last year, that should not change.
But this story has gotten legs so I doubt the Cowboys will do the right thing. And once again a contract means in the NFL.
he hates kitna that much?
No, he used to have the speed to get into position, the power to lay bone-crunching hits, and a nose for big plays. The last couple of seasons he's been known for being out of position, bouncing off runners, failing to wrap them up and giving up big plays. That's pure decline in ability and/or desire.
all contracts in the NFL are enforced to the letter of the law.
it's like MOST careers where you get the money you are guaranteed, but you can be let go if your performance drops.
Yeah, but it's not like other pro sports. The NFL doesn't have guaranteed money so much as it has bonus money. You can sign a 10 year, 100 million dollar contract and get cut after a year and only get what you've gotten to that point. NBA teams can't just cut a guy who's under contract and not have to pay him. If Starbury were an NFL player his ass would have been gone several years and several million dollars ago with no buyout and no drama.
WTF are you talking about...."MOST" What other business can a person sign a contract for 2 years and decide a month later to tear it up. How the NFL gets away with this bull amazes me.
Hmm I don't like my house anymore I think I will go get another one and not pay the bank anymore. Hmm I signed a confidentiality contract with my company but I am going to write a tell all book. Hmm I signed a contract to go to UCLA but I think I now I will go to USC. Hmm I signed a contract with Exxon but I am going to work for Racetrack. Hmm I signed a contract with the Bulls but I think I want to play for the Pistons now.
Only business that a signed contract means . The union is wising up a bit asking for UPFRONT money but 99 percent of the players get on. The careers are very very short. I read the other day a RB in the NFL is in the league 2 years on average.
So you'd rather have guys lazily coasting through the last four years of their big contract than have a system in place that demands they earn it or lose it? I liken it to the real world vs. a fair comparison to another professional league. We can agree on my pay and if I live up to it and produce, you'll pay on time and in full, but if I fail I'm subject to termination. Just like real life.
Come on. Have you ever signed a contract before? I promise I am not being a to you. Imagine you were recruited out of college or ur current job. The new company offers you a nice salary and moves you 2000 miles away from ur home. They give you a 3 year contract. You get there and 6 months later they don't like ur work or you or someone there doesn't like you or they found someone better in thier opinion. It could be for ANY reason but they decide to terminate you and say sorry but we our tearing up ur contract. I gurantee you would not say "thats life" and neither would the lawyer you hired.
damn he use to be better back in the day....hard hits and everything...he lost it.
yeah thats what happens when you get a contract that will keep you living comfortably for the rest of your life, and you get caked up with kelly rowland.. the guy was a monster at one time, a top 2 hitter in the league.. what i think is he must have jammed his neck or something leading in on a tackle and scared himself into being more passive.. the guy blows and when you wanna act like this and make "demands" to the people paying your bills, you should be treated like a clown (marbury) or just traded away for like 100 bucks or something (kinda like what oakland did to moss) who cares if that lights a fire under his ass, its only to make a brief point, he'll be back to his crappy self in no time.
with t.o cut
wonder now what will happen
Roy.
He's a worthless piece of .
Cut his ass.
Should have put him on a weight program to make him faster or moved him to LB.
The players know that the full length of the contracts aren't guaranteed. You know why - THEY COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED IT. In fact, when a player gets a 7 year deal, they negotiate it to be backloaded so that it will force the team to either renegotiate (i.e. more bonus money*) or cut them (thus making them a free agent) at that point in the deal. BOTH sides know how this game is played.
ANY JOB where you sign a contract that isn't fully guaranteed, you can be terminated for (almost) any reason and not see another dime. When it's written in black ink on a white page, there's really not much to complain about.
I know that the average NFL player's career is short and they give up their bodies (so do coal miners), but forgive me if I don't shed a tear for anybody in a league where the minimum salary is more than the average person makes in 10 years.
*contrary to popular belief, when a player agrees to renegotiate his deal - he often winds up making more money - assuming the time value of money - even though he is helping the team reach a more cap friendly figure because he gets more up front.
Last edited by K-State Spur; 03-05-2009 at 11:38 AM.
Pretty much sums it up. Obviously if I knew ahead of time that my 3 year contract could potentially be terminated after 6 months I'd know what I have to lose. These guys know full well whats guaranteed and whats not.
Heh, seems like more than a few people in this thread think they are talking about Roy Williams the receiver not the safety.
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