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    He came in with 5 fouls and fouled out in seconds.

    The refs weren't letting him play for tonight. Thats how it goes.
    Oh, sorry. I didn't realize he actually fouled out. Airmail on my part.

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    Oh, sorry. I didn't realize he actually fouled out. Airmail on my part.
    Were you mul asking or something, cuz Bonner made a loop on the court muttering under his breath before sitting down.

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    We probably still would have lost whether or not Hairston got back on the court. The defense as a whole was garbage tonight.

    As far as Hairston goes...he is a rookie with potential, but a rookie nonetheless. Judgment is reserved until we see where he is next season.

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    Were you mul asking or something, cuz Bonner made a loop on the court muttering under his breath before sitting down.
    Yeah, my kids came in asking why daddy was yelling at the TV, and I sort of resigned myself to the loss. I hadn't thought it through why Bonner wasn't in there, but he had three pretty quick fouls in the third so I should have put it together. I just didn't.

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    We probably still would have lost whether or not Hairston got back on the court. The defense as a whole was garbage tonight.
    Yeah, that's definitely true. This was also probably the best effort anyone's going to see from the Mavs this year, as they just got yelled at by the boss. I'd like to see some 48 minute efforts put together in a row.

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    Yeah, that's definitely true. This was also probably the best effort anyone's going to see from the Mavs this year, as they just got yelled at by the boss. I'd like to see some 48 minute efforts put together in a row.
    Indeed. It seems lame to acknowledge variables like the Mavs getting chewed out by Cuban, but that's the NBA. Sometimes enough goes wrong, but the fault was most definitely the D tonight, if the Spurs get over 95, they had a great night on offense.

    And I hope no one believes I think Hairston taking 10-15 minutes from Fin makes the Spurs win(when I typed that, I almost did), but if Fin shoots 25% and plays damn near the whole game, that just boggles my mind. Only TP and Mason truly deserved their minutes. TP got like 39 pts, but I didn't even notice. He's just that good, and this coming from a member of CoM and CoPBM.

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    I won't make a lot of friends for saying this, but the Spurs could have used JV running the point tonight. Parker was good offensively but did very little to help the team score, and when you aren't playing defense or scoring on the break, you need to take smart shots. Any number of things could have been the difference in the game, and there's really not anything to be satisfied about. I was much happier with the effort against the Cavs, even though they got blown out.

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    Guys, I like Malik alot. He hustles his ass off, plays decent defense for an undersized forward/guard, but he isn't going to be a major contributor. Let him develop as the season goes along. He's not an offensive threat yet.


    I agree completely

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    Man whats with people throwing our young players under the bus latley? Its as if they have to all be All-star type players right now our they are just garbage and don't belong on our team.

    So much hate for Hairston, Pops and even Hill lately it's crazy. These guys have done nothing but hustle and work hard for the Team.

    Sure they make a mistake here and there but if you don't think our vets and even the Big 3 make mistakes you are pretty blind.

    Hairston did not let the Mavs score 107 on us. Our team did that.

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    Man whats with people throwing our young players under the bus latley? Its as if they have to all be All-star type players right now our they are just garbage and don't belong on our team.

    So much hate for Hairston, Pops and even Hill lately it's crazy. These guys have done nothing but hustle and work hard for the Team.

    Sure they make a mistake here and there but if you don't think our vets and even the Big 3 make mistakes you are pretty blind.

    Hairston did not let the Mavs score 107 on us. Our team did that.
    cuz these guys are scrubs - we have nothing but All Stars on our squad - Finley, Udoka, Bonner, Oberto, Vaughn. If any of these guys were playing on another team they would double their stats easily. Tim, Tony and Manu are ok, but they've only done well because of the fact that our bench is basically made up of players that could be starters on any team in the NBA. Gooden is more like it - he's going to come in and average about 5 blocks a game along with his 20 and 10 -guaranteed.

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    I like Malik, as do many people here. And we all want him to take Udoka's minutes but I dont see it happening. Pop used Udoka last yr in the playoffs so of course he has some attachment to him still. But man watching Ime out there makes me wish Manu was back already because once Manu gets back, Ime's ass is going back to the bench where he belongs! Our guard rotation should be TP/Hill/Mason/Manu with Bowen and Finley at the SF spot.

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    FREE MALIK!!!!!!!!!

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    No idea if this has been posted yet:

    "Malik Hairston botched a few [defensive] covers early, too, and Popovich sat him the rest of the way."
    -Buck Harvey

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    I don't understand Pop's "one mistake and you're out for the rest of the game" philosophy when it comes to rooks and/or new players.

    I think a specific policy of "do little else but shoot bricks all night and you just might have to have some of your mintues shaved" might be a better approach, especially when it comes to Finley.

    Sure, Finley had the great quarter the other night, soon to be followed by a string of 2 for 8 brickfests. So we can be patient enough with Finley's frequent disappearing acts across many games, but heaven forbid a rookie has a few bad possesions.

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    wtf?

    Hairston's play in the first half did not earn him squat in the second thats for damn sure.

    Howard beat him like a rented mule and the blown wide open layup was weak.
    Howard beat Finley like a rented mule on many, many more occasions, too.

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    No idea if this has been posted yet:

    "Malik Hairston botched a few [defensive] covers early, too, and Popovich sat him the rest of the way."
    -Buck Harvey
    Understand. That still doesn't explain why Finley gets a longer leash. He may not botch as many covers, but his inability to stay in front of his man, failure to box out and cold-shooting certainly do not warrant his extended minutes. In such situation, I'd prefer more Bowen and less Finley.

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    I won't make a lot of friends for saying this, but the Spurs could have used JV running the point tonight. Parker was good offensively but did very little to help the team score, and when you aren't playing defense or scoring on the break, you need to take smart shots. Any number of things could have been the difference in the game, and there's really not anything to be satisfied about. I was much happier with the effort against the Cavs, even though they got blown out.
    G Hill as back up PG anybody ?

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    Finley??

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    i actually think it would of been nice to see malik come in during the second half. if nothing else was working why not give him a shot.

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    I think the short leash on Hairston was a measure Pop took to make sure the young guy realizes that his minutes can come and go with performance.

    That being said, I am continually mystified by Pops' love affair with Finley. He is so maddeningly inconsistent offensively and its not like he's bringing the killer D to justify those minutes. I'm beginning to think he has some incriminating photos of Pop drinking a subpar Merlot or something.

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    Do you honestly believe Hairston is gonna get playing time
    in a tight game during the playoffs?

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    Do you honestly believe Hairston is gonna get playing time
    in a tight game during the playoffs?
    Not likely unless we have an injury or foul trouble or some other extenuating cir stance.

    But, I could see Pop bringing him in as someone with some extra fouls to put on a Kobe or LeBron or just as part of a strategy of throwing different guys and different looks at a killer player like that. Let me be clear, I'm NOT saying Hairston will have major minutes guarding one of these guys, but a lot of coaches, Pop included, like to throw different looks at a top-flight player, to keep them off balance, guessing etc. I can see Hairston as being part of such an approach.

    The only other time I see Hairston playing meaningful playoff minutes is as a change of pace type guy Pop brings in if we're stagnant. That's usually Manu's job, but if he's failing at it I could see Hairston getting some minutes there.

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    Not likely unless we have an injury or foul trouble or some other extenuating cir stance.

    But, I could see Pop bringing him in as someone with some extra fouls to put on a Kobe or LeBron or just as part of a strategy of throwing different guys and different looks at a killer player like that. Let me be clear, I'm NOT saying Hairston will have major minutes guarding one of these guys, but a lot of coaches, Pop included, like to throw different looks at a top-flight player, to keep them off balance, guessing etc. I can see Hairston as being part of such an approach.

    The only other time I see Hairston playing meaningful playoff minutes is as a change of pace type guy Pop brings in if we're stagnant. That's usually Manu's job, but if he's failing at it I could see Hairston getting some minutes there.
    Hmm, you got a point.
    Depending on Manu's ankle, they might have to give Malik a try in the playoffs.
    So I get what you're saying..

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    G Hill as back up PG anybody ?
    Please stop using Mason as a backup PG.

    When I saw that Mason came into the game to replace Parker instead of Hill, I cringed. Then Mason turned the ball over......and then he turned it over again. HE IS NOT A PG.

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    Malik Hairston just needs more playing time! Hes doing a great job out there and he seems ready for the NBA.

    Im sure he will get that jump shoot down, and improve on hes D.... but simply he needs mroe playing time and im pretty sure he will get the MIN next year, once Udoka leaves, maybe even fin

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