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OMG that poor,innocent little girl
Brazil Church Excommunicates Mom, Doctors After Raped 9-Year-Old Has Abortion
Thursday, March 05, 2009
RIO DE JANEIRO — A Roman Catholic archbishop says the abortion of twins carried by a 9-year-old girl who allegedly was raped by her stepfather means excommunication for the girl's mother and her doctors.
Despite the nature of the case, the church had to hold its line against abortion, Archbishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho said in an interview aired Thursday by Globo television.
"The law of God is higher than any human laws," he said. "When a human law — that is, a law enacted by human legislators — is against the law of God, that law has no value. The adults who approved, who carried out this abortion have incurred excommunication."
Health Minister Jose Gomes Temporao rebuked the archbishop, saying, "I'm shocked by two facts: by what happened to the girl and by the position of the archbishop, who in saying he defends life puts another at risk."
Abortion is generally illegal in Brazil, which is home to more Catholics than any other nation. But the procedure is allowed when the mother's life is in danger, when the fetus has no chance of survival or in rape cases where the woman has not passed her 20th week of pregnancy.
Doctors said the girl was 15 weeks pregnant when the abortion was performed Wednesday in the northeastern city of Recife, where Sobrinho is archbishop. Health officials said the life of the girl — who weighs 80 pounds —was in danger.
The pregnancy was discovered last week when the girl fell ill and her mother took her to a clinic. The child then told officials she had been abused by her stepfather, who is in police custody.
OMG that poor,innocent little girl
And this is why abortions are legal in America.
That poor, dear girl.
I never have understood this. If murderers can be forgiven via confessional, why not those abort? In this case, it was CLEARLY the right decision. I feel very certain that she is ok in God's eyes here.
You know, if your church is going to even threaten to excommunicate you for making the right decision, then maybe it's a good time to find another church anyways. This archbishop will get what's coming to him in the end, I really do believe that. What really ing pisses me off is that the girl's mother and doctors were excommunicated, but the stepfather who raped her and put her in this situation was not? WTF?
Well, no. He didn't kill anyone.
Priorities, you understand
(just so nobody misunderstands me, that was sarcasm)
Sarcasm noted and appreciated, but regardless, I think a pretty damn good argument could be made that he DID kill someone, seeing as how he completely destroyed that girl's childhood and most likely her sense of personal security. But yeah, I guess the Catholic church of Brazil needs things to be completely literal to process them.Well, no. He didn't kill anyone.
Priorities, you understand
(just so nobody misunderstands me, that was sarcasm)
An example of the stupidity of catholicism...
First of all, they can. Excommunication is not forever unless the person excommunicated wishes it to be.
And CLEARLY is not a word I would use here. Except that CLEARLY the aborted babies didn't ask for THEIR fate.
So killing an innocent is the "right decision"? Nice.
And last I looked, you don't get to judge who goes to and who doesn't.
So don't be one.
Two innocents. And yes, it was the right decision. You don't get to judge what a mother does for her 9 year old daughter, especially when her life was in danger.
If you noticed, I didn't judge either one.
Reading comprehension is your friend.
Just become Episcopalian (Catholic Light)
All the fun without most of the messy rules... Kind of like swingers Catholic :p
Obviously "right" is a subjective term, but I do believe this to be the "right" decision. This girl fulfilled multiple criterion for having an abortion in a country that has made all but extreme situations illegal.
And, I didn't say I was sending him to - that would be blasphemous since I'm not Manny.
A 15 week old fetus is not a sentient being.
Excommunication means that a person is no longer a member of a religious body. It in no way passes sentence on whether or not a person is forgiven by God. In actuality, its intent is to state something that is already true; that is, that the person no longer holds to the teachings of that particular faith.
Yes, clearly. I think that is the best word. An 80 pound 9 year old is not physically capable of carrying twins, and for her physical health alone I think it was the clearly correct decision. I also think for her emotional health and for her family (yes, even those 2 babies) it was clearly the correct decision.
Given the odds of her ability to carry them anywhere near approaching term, and the physical risks she would undertake (and this is leaving aside the fact she is NINE YEARS OLD) - the risks of all three of them dying - I am relieved her mother made that choice.
No, you only questioned it being the right decision, implying that it wasn't.
seeing as how your friend count is zero, I'd say reading comprehension isn't your friend.
Or maybe I have better things to do than play with certain features of this board?
Comparing "friend count" with reading comprehension is weak.
My comment was directed towards your "he'll get what's coming to him" statement. My point being that neither you nor I know what that is.
So you have more examples?
Stupidity compared to other religions?
I think I smell a biggoted anti-Catholic . . .
An argument could be made that someone suffering from profound mental re ation is not a sentient being. Would you recommend euthanasia in that case?
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