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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    If any city in Texas should be on top of 'green' projects, it should be Austin. You'd think they'd have enough volunteers. Austin is full of hippies, yuppies and dumbass college stoners.

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    If any city in Texas should be on top of 'green' projects, it should be Austin. You'd think they'd have enough volunteers. Austin is full of hippies, yuppies and dumbass college stoners.
    But that's the concern. Are the hippies and college stoners going to be willing to sacrifice some of their dope funds to pay higher electric bills?

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    You need a masters to take the CPA exam?
    Not exactly.

    You need a specified list of courses, plus you have to have at least 150 total college hours, and the specified list of courses does count towards that.

    Personally, I have a bachelor's in German, and will be elegible for the CPA exam before I technically get my masters in accounting.

    I will have the CPA designation, but with technically no degree in accounting.

    The exact qualifications can be found in a few places:

    http://www.beckercpa.com/texas/index.cfm

    http://www.tsbpa.state.tx.us/exam-qu...of-intent.html

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    I am indeed. I am about 4 classes away from my masters, and about 1 class away from being able to sit for the CPA exam.

    No rush tho'. Present job doesn't require it.

    I have a great interest in renewable power, so it was kinda fun to do a research paper on it for a class. (yes, I got an "A" on it, and the presentation)
    Nice dude. Didn't realize you were that close to a masters.

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    I've got no problems with wind or solar, I just take issue with a more expensive option being forced upon people during tough economic times.
    Well, it would be at least a year before the project would get to the point where you would issue the bonds to pay for it and actually cost the utility any real substantive funds, and another year or two until it actually got built.

    By then we would most likely be out of our current slump, AND that will be the precise time that coal and gas will start getting more expensive.

    Long term, this project is probably a good idea for a lot of reasons.

    I would have to take a closer look at the alternatives, i.e. conventional coal and/or gas, but it probably isn't quite so bad as one might think.

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    Nice dude. Didn't realize you were that close to a masters.
    Yup. I took a break to get a couple of other levels of job-specific certifications that actually pay money. My present employer doesn't pay extra for the CPA designation, so that got shoved to the back burner.

    Besides, it lets us spend our money on letting my wife finish school. She's on the dean's list so far, so that seems to be a good investment, expecially when we finally see the payoff with her first job and her tripling her income.

    BUT

    At the rate of one class per semester, that means 4 classes translates into two years down the road. No hurries for me though. I am fine for now with my current job.

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    At the rate of one class per semester, that means 4 classes translates into two years down the road. No hurries for me though. I am fine for now with my current job.
    YEH same here man, i didnt enrol into full time when i did my course, cause it costs alot per subject semester ended up takn me 3yrs just to do 12 subjects lmao failed a few hurt the wallet. had a few subs credited cause i had previous diploma certification.

    CPA would only cost me like aus$600 per subject x 6-8 subjects i think only...very cheap compared to tertiary degree....fkn.

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    That being said I have a problem with what Austin just did because it will impact everyone, whether they want solar power or not, and I just don't think it's a great time to make everyone's electric bills go up.
    The equities suck, but how else is "green energy" supposed to be stimulated? I guess R&D might give you more bang for the buck long term, but we're in a recession now.

    It's infrastructure, more symbolic than effective true, but generally prescribed for our condition. Hopefully it inspires other cities (and ours!) to to do even better in the future.



    CG: Do you know anything about the rejected bid from the local company that came in $100 million lower? My mechanic is ing about that just now.

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    That said:
    Coal is, at the moment, still cheaper even so, as is a natural gas turbine.

    Texas is slated to get a LNG (liquid natural gas) terminal in Houston, so gas will actually be pretty cost compe ive.

    Still, having solar around will help mitigate swings in the costs of fuel.

    Once the world economy gets back on its feet, you WILL see energy prices go back up, and go back up at a rate that will surprise a lot of people.

    There are costs and benefits to each new form of power, and any utility would do well to balance any new construction with a variety of sources.
    The big disappointment for tree-huggers is that we will rely increasingly on coal and natural gas.

    The good news is that we'll get the ball rolling -- for real, let's hope -- on next generation technology.

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    The big disappointment for tree-huggers is that we will rely increasingly on coal and natural gas.

    The good news is that we'll get the ball rolling -- for real, let's hope -- on next generation technology.
    Temporarily.

    Don't forget that oil and natural gas suffer from the same type of depletion that oil does.

    As oil gets more expensive relative to other sources of energy, we will rely on coal and gas more, but sooner or later those two forms of energy will suffer the same fate as oil, i.e. a Hubbert curve decline in which supply falls off right as demand goes up.

    Leaving us with, drumroll please: renewables.

    We should use the time we have left with relatively cheap fossil fuels to build up our solar/wind/other sources.

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    The equities suck, but how else is "green energy" supposed to be stimulated? I guess R&D might give you more bang for the buck long term, but we're in a recession now.
    Being in a recession is pretty much my entire reason for questioning the timing of this deal. At the same time the city is committing a quarter of a billion dollars to this they're also debating whether or not they're going to have to lay off firefighters and police officers. I'm not saying solar power isn't a worthwhile endeavor, I support it, but times are tough right now and I don't think Austin has it's priorities in order.

    CG: Do you know anything about the rejected bid from the local company that came in $100 million lower? My mechanic is ing about that just now.
    Couldn't find anything about a cheaper bid. But the Austin business journal did mention that all the solar panels for this project are going to be made in China, despite there being qualified manufuacturers here in Texas.

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    i think there is no ski resorts in austine or texas right?

    they could make that extra money in the summer or any other season when theres not enouugh snow....

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    those wind turbines you can build them on coastline or next to the border of mexico
    Hey...

    Let's build a fence of windmills that sit at ground level. The illegals would have to be crazy to walk through those moving blades!

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    Random and I disagree allot, but I agree with his cost assessment. I haven't done such actual research on costs, but the concept holds true. Solar I believe is the right way to go for the southern states that have viable real estate for it. Peak generation during peak usage along with lower la udes makes it worth while. Such a thing doesn't make so much sense in Oregon, where 90% or more of the population is above the 45th parallel. Not too bad for the summer power, but peak usage here in in the winter. The sun then sits so low on the horizon, there is little effective solar generation. Plus, short days.

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    Hey...

    Let's build a fence of windmills that sit at ground level. The illegals would have to be crazy to walk through those moving blades!
    Extra tokens at the arcade for anyone who makes it through on the first try.

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