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    Keeping JV is the smartest thing to do for the organization for here and now. I'm not saying he's going t give us these great numbers, I am saying he will hold the ship steady for short periods if Hill is not doing his job or his turning over the ball. Remember when we played Detroit, Udrih sucked and we always needed his backup. I mean Tony needs to rest and if Hill is not keeping the ship steady we need a veteran.

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    Keeping JV is the smartest thing to do for the organization for here and now. I'm not saying he's going t give us these great numbers, I am saying he will hold the ship steady for short periods if Hill is not doing his job or his turning over the ball. Remember when we played Detroit, Udrih sucked and we always needed his backup. I mean Tony needs to rest and if Hill is not keeping the ship steady we need a veteran.

    Manu will be that veteran.

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    what is the question?

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    No but that's not the point. JV would have to be bought out and the Spurs aren't going to do that. They believe that Pops isn't worth that so why don't we just Pops luck with the Raptors and move on?

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    we've actually had incidents in the recent past where we needed a 3rd PG. when have we ever needed to go down to the 6th big?
    Yes we have had occasions IN THE PAST that required using JV, but that no longer applies because we have Mason and Hill as well as Manu. We haven't had a sixth big that I can recall. What I'm saying is that Pops' upside trumps what JV is able to do on the court. Manu or Mason can play limited PG role if need be. That's the way I see it and if others think otherwise, that's okay. No one will convince me that Jacque doesn't suck balls.

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    Please get informed of the reality of the situation before saying crap.

    Vaughn is guaranteed this year. Pops wasn't. The Spurs are trying to stay under the luxury tax. End of story.

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    It's possible but we'll never know. Maybe Vaughn could have went to a team that was battling to get Marbury. Who knows?

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    It was just bad timing for Pops, I think this guy definitely would have beat out Udoka in camp but at this point in this season, Pop isn't going to trust anyone athletic to pick things up. But if Spurs woulda bought out JV's contract (and I think they didn't or couldn't because they were trying to lure Drew Gooden with every $ possible), NO, Jacque Vaughn wouldn't have been picked up by the D-league Rattlers or Vipers, much less an NBA team because HE SUCKS ASS.

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    Pops would have cost only $80,000. Buy out JV -whats the nig deal he doesn't contribute anyway. Hoping for huge lead tonite.

    JV comes in and has Livingston injury. Put him out of his misery.

    Pops would've cost more than that you ing re .

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    Pops would have cost only $80,000. Buy out JV -whats the nig deal he doesn't contribute anyway. Hoping for huge lead tonite.

    JV comes in and has Livingston injury. Put him out of his misery.
    Dude, I'm pretty down on JV too but wishing injury on him just ain't right.

    Here's to hoping YOU have a Livingston-type injury.

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    He would have gotten minimum prorated ala james white. Thats in the $80,000 range.

    BUT THE COST TO CUT VAUGHN IS MORE THAN THAT WICH MEANS THE COST oF HAVING POPS ON THE ING ROSTER IS MORE


    GOD ING DAMN

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    Better here than lakers.

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    cant blame him, since he has to put food on the table in these hard times....good luck to him
    Through a bunch of 10 day contracts?

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    what a lot of spurs fans seem to be having trouble grasping is that Pop and the the coaching staff like Jacque Vaughan. you guys may wish he will be cut because he seems like dead weight but the truth is that they could've gotten rid of him many times and haven't.

    he's not an awful player, he's not great, but sometimes, you need those guys to simply fill your roster and in an emergency situation, play extra minutes.

    jacque vaughan is not going anywhere just yet, in popovich's eyes, he's a proven solid veteran that isn't going to make stupid mistakes and that's why he's still there.

    it's not like he jacks up ridiculous shots and puts the spurs in a position to lose, so live and let be with him

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    jackass,

    Manu and Mason are our 3rd and 4th pointguards. If it gets to TP and GH getting hurt you think pop would start runt.
    Uh yes he would dumb .

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    glad to see him get a spot somewhere, he will be missed

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    Good for Pops... he has played hard and earned his nba call ups. I wish him the best of luck.

    Also, if Tony and Hill got hurt in the playoffs, I'd bet that Mason would start at PG. I've got nothing against JV, but I can't see him starting ahead of Mason against the Lakers or Celtics...

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    As a Brit, Pops will be right at home in a Commonwealth country. Good luck to him.

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    I'm watching the Raptors-Heat game right now and so far Pops has 4 boards in 5 mins of play but no points yet. He just seems like hes a body out there so far, nothing spectacular.

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    I'm watching the Raptors-Heat game right now and so far Pops has 4 boards in 5 mins of play but no points yet. He just seems like hes a body out there so far, nothing spectacular.
    4 rebounds in 5 minutes is stellar...

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    4 rebounds in 5 minutes is stellar...
    He had an assist too, and a +/- of +5 during his five minutes.

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    Uh like I said dude, if Tony doesn't play spurs are screwed. You think JV can salvage a game in Tony's absence? Maybe you are still on a high from that unlikely victory in PHX last year. I can give JV credit for playing well for Tony in that game, yes. Probably the apex of his regular season career. But if Tony has to sit I won't be thanking my lucky stars for JV, I will be cursing our bad luck.
    and you think keeping Pops instead of Vaughn would help in that situation? What was your rebuttal again?

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    10 rebounds in 12 minutes now

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