Try two t's in Elliott.
E-l-l-i-o-t can't be named?
Try two t's in Elliott.
Well, at least Dirk is [no longer] my daddy.
2 t's, gotcha.
Omg I have that skybox card too! Go UWE!
Alot of you guys seem to be young and only remember the winning years :P.
David R did not start his career being a great defender he morphed into it as the years went on.
Alvin Robertson had the annoying prowess of Bruce and the speed agility of Manu. He was an absolute demon on defense. Anyone who watched the Spurs back in the mid 80's could tell you we've never seen that combo before or since. He's also the ONLY Spur to ever have a quad double and the only player not a center to do so. He won defensive player of the YEAR AS SG. Only 1 other Sg has ever done that and his name is MJ. On the ball defending we have never had any better. I would argue he is one of the best on the ball defenders in the NBA all time.
Sean Elliott was a great individual defender?
Um what?
In the three games the Spurs played against the Lakers in the regular season, with DA guarding Kobe, Bryant scored 32, 43, and 38. Kobe owned Derek Anderson worse than any Spurs player in franchise history not named Antonio Daniels. Anderson was the worst defender to start on the Spurs since Del Negro. Every single game in that 2000-01 season the Spurs would get ripped a new cornhole by whatever borderline star the other team had at shooting guard. Anderson could throw down some great dunks, penetrate well, and was a monster on the break, but his defense cost the Spurs big every single night, and had to have been the reason Pop had such a hard-on for Bruce in the summer.
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Amen.
The only good thing about DA's defense was that it was so bad that the Spurs figured out that they weren't going to win anything without getting a perimeter stopper. Enter Bruce Bowen.
My boss still sports a mullet... rather successfully i might add
david has to win it with alvin and timmy comming right behind
nice defensive-lineup:
Robinson
Duncan
Rodman
Bowen
Robertson
george freaking johnson
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A967948260
George Gervin scored 26 points and George Johnson blocked a team-record 13 shots as the Spurs beat Golden State.
The 13 blocks by Johnson also were the most in the league this season.
Behind a 16-point spree by Bernard King, who finished with 42 points, the Warriors took a 34-32 first-period lead. But Ron Brewer came off the bench and got 16 points in the second period to lead a 44-point San Antonio explosion, a team high for the season. San Antonio took command, 76-68, at the half.
I like the guys timvp mentioned. DRob first, Bowen over TD and Razorback Alvin Robertson (cough AR) at four.
Ron Brewer's son Ronnie plays for the Jazz. Go Hogs.
Actually, David Robinson had a quad double too.
Alvin Robertson was a perennial all-defensive team member, DPOY winner and still holds the NBA record for avg steals per game for a career.
DRob was a great defensor, and a Big has always an advantage since he can really anchor a defense compared to a perimeter defensor, and rebounds and blocks .....
but i've never seen the same commitment to defend as i saw with Bruce.
it probably has to do with bruce lack of offensive skills. Bruce knows the only reason why he has seen playing time in one of the two or three best team of the league each year. because he defends.
and i don't think anyone come close to bruce when you talk about winning thanks to the defense. What he did to LBJ, Dirk, sometimes Kobe, Peja and almost every opponent's perimeter star has been amazing. He's by far the most clutch defensive player.
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Sean Elliott?
it'd really impress me if you could name the other five in nba history to ever have a quadruple double...
The all defensive spurs team
1.David Robinson
2.Bruce Bowen
3.Dennis Rodman
4.Tim Duncan
5.Terry mings
There have only been 4 guys to do it. Alvin, DRob, Hakeem, Nate Thurmond.
Well, officially that is. Blocks weren't kept as a stat back when Russell and Wilt played. Don't think steals were either. So there's a chance a couple more guys might have done it.
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Robinson
Bowen
Robertson
Elliott
Rodman
Duncan
In that order..
Drob is the best of course...man on man or team D he's on the short list of the greatest defensive players in NBA history, realize it Spursfans.
Duncan believe it or not is under-rated by Spurfans defensively because he's not that great of a man to man defender. It's true he's not that great of a man on man defender...but when you are the only common denominator on what is, at worst, the 3rd greatest defensive run by a team in NBA history, you must be doing something seriously right. Duncan is the only common denominator...man on man, you know, Pop didn't even want to put him on Dirk and Drob took the toughest defensive assignment even when he could barely take the court...but Duncan erases the mistakes of other players and does what he's supposed to with a machine like efficiency.
He's easily the second best defensive player in Spurs history.
So really what it comes down to is Bowen VS Alvin Robertson VS Sean Elliott...Alvin was probably the greatest ball thief to ever step foot on NBA court, and he was a solid defender...but his career with the Spurs wasn't that long. If you are talking about a burst of dominance over a 2 or 3 year period...well Alvin is the conversation for the greatest defensive player in team history...but this is about a career, and he falls short in the career department.
Bruce otoh has a tenacity unmatched by just about anyone and extremely quick feed and that's pretty much every there is to Bruce.
Elliott was a fantastic defensive player in his prime with the Spurs. The Spurs used to whup the early 90's Bulls with regularity, even as they racked up the les, and Elliott's defense on Michael Jordan as a primary reason for this. He contested every shot with everything he had during that era. If we'd had an inprime Elliott in 2001 we probably win 1 more le. Then again..the same could be said if we had Bowen That said...for whatever reasons health or desire, he didn't maintain his level of defensive play.
If push comes to shove I go with Bruce because he did it better for longer, not only in a Spurs uniform but overall.....there's pretty much nobody that Bruce hasn't defended in the course of this championship era that he hasn't put on his list at least once.
The 2007 NBA finals pretty much locked up Bruce's place as the 3rd greatest defensive player in team history...IMO, he was the true MVP of that series. And the reason was because of his D on a player that is easily going to go down as one of the greatest in history. And you know...you look back at 2005 and Bruce made some pretty key plays in that le clincher as well.
I go
Drob
Duncan
Bruce
Elliott
Robertson
Johnny Moore was 1 steal short of doing it as well.
Wilt is also a guy that probably had a few of them...he lead the league in assists one year and from everything I've heard he blocked a lot of shots every game.
Guy had a couple of games of 20 points, 20 rebounds and 20 assists...without a doubt he had what would have been some 10 block games in that era as well.
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