Gaffes: Hillary Clinton is Bush on steroids

[shelshor]

OMG did anyone hear the story about her visiting her Russian counter part, presenting him with a big giant staples-esque red button, that said two words

"Reset" in english
and what they thought was "reset" in Russian.
Naturally, they got it wrong, and the word was actually "Overcharge" in Russian. The Russian guy was like "Um, actually you got it wrong"
Hillary parried with one of her strong, hearty laughs, and tried to play it off.

I'm not blaming this on Clinton, but how inept could we possibly look? Jeeze

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/72297/

March 6, 2009
“SMART” DIPLOMACY (CONT’D):

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton opened her first extended talks with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov by giving him a present meant to symbolize the Obama administration’s vow to “press the reset button” on U.S.-Russia relations.
She handed a palm-sized box wrapped with a bow. Lavrov opened it and pulled out the gift: a red button on a black base with a Russian word peregruzka printed on top.
“We worked hard to get the right Russian word. Do you think we got it?” Clinton asked.
“You got it wrong,” Lavrov said.
Instead of “reset,” Lavrov said the word on the box meant “overcharge.”

[Yonivore]

Smartest.Woman.In.The.World.

[Sec24Row7]

Meh... small mistake...

[Ignignokt]

Fixed .

I'm guilty as charged. It's too easy..

No reason to pronounce yourself guilty, gutlessness isn't a crime. And pretending to be outraged by one side because they contradict themselves...well nm. You're naive, and was born after the first tuesday of november. I should have known.

[boutons_]

a reset button? a tone-deaf gimmick, typifies American childishness, especially inappropriate in this grim period when America fatally fumbled its leadership role and ed up the world economy.

[Winehole23]

No reason to pronounce yourself guilty, gutlessness isn't a crime. And pretending to be outraged by one side because they contradict themselves.

I'm not pretending. I respect honest liberals, but hate fake conservatives. Meaning almost the whole goddam GOP. What's so gutless about that? It may not be sporting to kick them while they're down, but they still deserve the kicks even though they lost the election. Politics ain't beanbag. Quit crying and peddle your sensitivity elsewhere.

[Ignignokt]

I'm not pretending. I respect honest liberals, but hate fake conservatives. Meaning almost the whole goddam GOP. What's so gutless about that? It may not be sporting to kick them while they're down, but they still deserve the kicks even though they lost the election. Politics ain't beanbag. Quit crying and peddle your sensitivity elsewhere.

Never seen the feminie sensitivity attack before<sarcasm>, i almost thought i was in the college sports forum.

Look, whatever, call it crying or pouting, you could rip on conservatives all you want. I don't go after random guy, pixel, or boutons for that, it's expected, i just go after their ideas.

But when you try to only attack conservatives from a fake cloak of impartiality, that's pretty pathetic, and you're pretty much in contention with being the biggest on this board.

Look, i know about free speech, bill of rights, etc so spare me your upcoming lecture.

You're free to be the biggest fake impartial independent here who claims to be above the frey. I'm not going to stop you or go to kori. If i were to do that, the terrorist win. Putting up with bags is a consequence of freedom.

because after all look at your statement, "I like honest liberals and fake conservatives.". You would of portrayed a better sense of what you're trying to come across if say you were to say "I like honest politcal participants and hate fake ones" or "I like honest libs and conservatives and hate fake ones.".

But instead you came out with the former, and it makes you sound like you only acknowledge that there are true liberals and for the most part fake conservatives. As if there couldn't exist fake liberals and honest conservatives.

Again, you'e free to claim and say whatevery you want.

But its as if i said " I like honest americans and hate fake foreigners". i may have not intended it to be such a black and white statement, but it basically underlies hidden prejudices.

So when there are a bunch of people on both sides acting a fool and you sit here claiming to be impartial and then pick sides, many will think of you as a fake.

I mean, you're reaching yoni status in that regard here, do you realize that.

[Wild Cobra]

Smartest.Woman.In.The.World.

Yep, so smart, she didn't need to ask any experts what the proper translation was.

Great sign of how our foreign policy will likely be...

[Winehole23]

because after all look at your statement, "I like honest liberals and fake conservatives.". You would of portrayed a better sense of what you're trying to come across if say you were to say ...I like honest libs and conservatives and hate fake ones."

You wanna be my editor?

You're fired!

But when you try to only attack conservatives from a fake cloak of impartiality, that's pretty pathetic, and you're pretty much in contention with being the biggest on this board.

I'm partial as and I don't think I hide it too well. You made up this impartial bit, and the idea that I'm being furtive about my opinion flies in the face of my posts.

Total strawman. I try to be fair, but I take my own side too.

Putting up with bags is a consequence of freedom.

Thanks for coming to my support on this point. You underscore it well.

As if there couldn't exist fake liberals and honest conservatives.

Honest conservatives? Scarcer than hen's teeth. Fake liberals? Let the liberals take care of their own. I mostly care to correct the idiots who give conservatism a bad name. Go buy some itch cream if this gives you a rash.

So when there are a bunch of people on both sides acting a fool and you sit here claiming to be impartial and then pick sides, many will think of you as a fake.

You say I claimed to be impartial. I only said I try to be fair. There's a difference. If you don't get it I can't help you.

Am I fake? People can decide for themselves. Sounds like you've already decided. C'est la friggin vie.

[Winehole23]

I mean, you're reaching yoni status in that regard here, do you realize that?

Oh yeah? Prove it!

[Ignignokt]

Oh yeah? Prove it!

Wtf? did you not read my post?

[Winehole23]

Please find my reply to you at #34.

[Ignignokt]

I see, impartial is not the right term. What you try to portray yourself as is above the frey, and nonpartisan (NOT TO say that you are centrist, but that you are not a cheerleader for one side), like in the past when you'e commended others like 101a for being above party line.

But you're really not. Sharing things with one side is totally different than rooting for one team immaturely as if its a sport.

You certainly, i've noticed get on to people here for acting partisan or using cheap debate tactics (ex, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=118844&page=2 , funny thing is you couldn't detect the guys sarcasm), and one leads themselves that you're coming from a sincere standpoint of giving constructive criticism and you're piously trying to raise the level of intercourse here.



But you're not, not when there are others in that same thread going back in forth in the same manner the wild cobras do with insults and sorts, and you try to come in as if you're the impartial one, trying to raise everyones game here.(i use it in this context).

Sure there are people here who i consider above the frey but still have strong political beliefs, joe chalupa is one, smeagol, and even at times Peabody.

My point is, you look like a huge bag.

Had boutons come in here and tell AHF to stop using generalizations, and non sequitors, strawmen, and insults, everyone would think it's rather odd.

So spare us all the preaching here, thou great referee of discourse, and let everyone be.

or, not and do as you well please. It's a free country, feel free to look foolish.

[Winehole23]

You certainly, i've noticed get on to people here for acting partisan or using cheap debate tactics (ex, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=118844&page=2 , funny thing is you couldn't detect the guys sarcasm), and one leads themselves that you're coming from a sincere standpoint of giving constructive criticism and you're piously trying to raise the level of intercourse here.

I'm not responsible for what you (or anybody else) thinks about what I say. Still less for mischaracterizations and strawmen.

The word pious in the quoted graf sets off the phrase as pejorative, but I do not see what's wrong about trying to raise the level of discourse, promoting mutual understanding and criticizing cheap rhetorical tricks and vituperation. If that drives you crazy, ignore me. I don't really care.

But you're not, not when there are others in that same thread going back in forth in the same manner the wild cobras do with insults and sorts, and you try to come in as if you're the impartial one, trying to raise everyones game here.(i use it in this context).

Again, I'm partial as . Maybe the word you're looking for is independent. Spurning the two major parties doesn't make me impartial. If you conclude it does, the misunderstanding is on you.

Sure there are people here who i consider above the frey but still have strong political beliefs, joe chalupa is one, smeagol, and even at times Peabody.

I'm not above the fray at all. I frequently join and enjoy it.

My point is, you look like a huge bag.

Hah! Coming from a past master like yourself, I can only chuckle.

Also your phrase unnecessarily insults s. Is there some kind of dishonor you attach to coming into intimate contact with a woman?

Had boutons come in here and tell AHF to stop using generalizations, and non sequitors, strawmen, and insults, everyone would think it's rather odd.

I'm not boutons. And anybody can say whatever they want. Including me.

So spare us all the preaching here, thou great referee of discourse, and let everyone be.

I'll point out whatever I want, thanks. I don't consider myself a referee. I'm just a reader. Some posters like my takes; some, like you, will hate my guts for it. C'est la guerre. Put me on ignore if don't like me. I won't miss you at all.

[Ignignokt]

I'm not responsible for what you (or anybody else) thinks about what I say. Still less for mischaracterizations and strawmen. .

Wow, that's so revealing, i never knew we had those priveleges.

The word pious in the quoted graf sets off the phrase as pejorative, but I do not see what's wrong about trying to raise the level of discourse, promoting mutual understanding and criticizing cheap rhetorical tricks and vituperation. If that drives you crazy, ignore me. I don't really care.

Except you're not raisning the level of discourse, the people you're trying to reach ...(pffttt!!! , that sounded so funny; ok back on topic) the people you're trying to reach will not take you sincerely or even give a crap about it. And there could be some that seriously do not know that they're using cheap rhetorical tactics but are caught up in the emotion with other people who are doing the exact same thing ,and then some bag comes in deciding to single them out as if they're the problem with the polarization of this country ,as if he (you )has some divine mandate from Gawd!! , tries to play forum ettiquette police, and i guess they can see how big of a huge dipwad you are.

But by all means, you do what you want, Officer of the Forum Law.

Again, I'm partial as . Maybe the word you're looking for is independent. Spurning the two major parties doesn't make me impartial. If you conclude it does, the misunderstanding is on you.

You're also partial to not comprehending what someone posts, i already talked about what you're blathering about.

I'm not above the fray at all. I frequently join and enjoy it.

Indeed.

Also your phrase unnecessarily insults s. Is there some kind of dishonor you attach to coming into intimate contact with a woman?

Douchbags are intimate objects, wow you get creepier post by post. First of all you're the Forum Netiquette police, now you want us to envy bags because they clean yeast infections and that turns you on..

THat's cool for you, buddy. I'll pass.

I'm not boutons. And anybody can say whatever they want. Including me.

Yeah, you keep repeating that as if anyone disagrees with you on that one. Make it easier and write it on my Nettiquette Forum Citation officer D. Bag.

I'll point out whatever I want, thanks. I don't consider myself a referee. I'm just a reader. Some posters like my takes; some, like you, will hate my guts for it. C'est la guerre. Put me on ignore if don't like me. I won't miss you at all

, More victimization. Don't worry, you can do whatever you without fear of being placed in a concentration camp. Thanks for reminding everyone this is a free country. Like we totally forget everytime, Like totally mang i was about to go outside and look if there's an american flag out near my campus. No seriously thanx!

Go on champ.

You what you want.

[Winehole23]

[RandomGuy]

Now board Republicans want to kiss Europe's ass.

Make up your minds.

[RandomGuy]

I see, impartial is not the right term. What you try to portray yourself as is above the frey, and nonpartisan (NOT TO say that you are centrist, but that you are not a cheerleader for one side), like in the past when you'e commended others like 101a for being above party line.

But you're really not. Sharing things with one side is totally different than rooting for one team immaturely as if its a sport.

You certainly, i've noticed get on to people here for acting partisan or using cheap debate tactics (ex, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=118844&page=2 , funny thing is you couldn't detect the guys sarcasm), and one leads themselves that you're coming from a sincere standpoint of giving constructive criticism and you're piously trying to raise the level of intercourse here.



But you're not, not when there are others in that same thread going back in forth in the same manner the wild cobras do with insults and sorts, and you try to come in as if you're the impartial one, trying to raise everyones game here.(i use it in this context).

Sure there are people here who i consider above the frey but still have strong political beliefs, joe chalupa is one, smeagol, and even at times Peabody.

My point is, you look like a huge bag.

Had boutons come in here and tell AHF to stop using generalizations, and non sequitors, strawmen, and insults, everyone would think it's rather odd.

So spare us all the preaching here, thou great referee of discourse, and let everyone be.

or, not and do as you well please. It's a free country, feel free to look foolish.

One of the poster boys of confirmation bias tries to criticize someone else for saying that political hackery is bad?

[fyatuk]

probably breading dozens of OBL's as we speak....

Are we talking chicken fried steak breading, or fish breading, or what?

[rascal]

Good one there. Its about time you two put that one to bed.

[Ignignokt]

One of the poster boys of confirmation bias tries to criticize someone else for saying that political hackery is bad?

Read again.

You simplified my post(s) and either you did it purposely for whatever reason, or you're a lazy reader and comprehender.

[Winehole23]

Read again.

You simplified my post(s) and either you did it purposely for whatever reason, or you're a lazy reader and comprehender.

No, I'm disagreeing with you. That doesn't mean I'm not listening to you or understanding what you're saying. I'm doing all three at the same time.

[RandomGuy]

Hillary Clinton raised eyebrows on her first visit to Europe as secretary of state when she mispronounced her EU counterparts’ names and claimed U.S. democracy was older than Europe’s.

Find one democracy in Europe in the period between 100 AD and 1750 AD.

[RandomGuy]

Read again.

You simplified my post(s) and either you did it purposely for whatever reason, or you're a lazy reader and comprehender.

Sure, blame the victim.

tip:

The rest of us can't read your mind. Stop writing like we can.
.

[Ignignokt]

Sure, blame the victim.

tip:

The rest of us can't read your mind. Stop writing like we can.
.

, I didn't know i pointed out a victim. Why need for phsycic powers when i already clarified my position.

Not my fault if you still think this is another red vs blue debate and you're hear to claim scoreboard.