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Cutting TO solved a TINY issue and at the same time created a HUGE issue.
Unless Jerry pulls another starting calibur WR out of his ass, we're going to have to rely on the young guns+Dumb Crayton to step up.
All that proves is that you are a TO hater. I'd still like to see proof that TO was a serious issue with the team, or how cutting him solved any serious issues.
Cutting TO solved a TINY issue and at the same time created a HUGE issue.
Unless Jerry pulls another starting calibur WR out of his ass, we're going to have to rely on the young guns+Dumb Crayton to step up.
That proof is only within the organization.
Show proof that he wasn't a cancer that caused more problems than he was worth.
The fact that no one in the locker room said he was a cancer. Fact is, he was used as the Cowboys scapegoat for their failure of a season.
So I guess its TO's fault that Romo chokes in the playoffs?
Or that Garrett has a ty offensive playcalling scheme? Or that Romo and quite a few other players on the team were hurt for extensive periods of time? How about the poorly ran defense that didn't really step up until Wade finally took over? Crayton having a massive drop and an extremely poorly ran route at the end of the playoff game against the Giants?
It's absolutely incredible how people blame TO for all of that.
Same people that blame him for the demise of the cowboys were also the ones that looked at him as the savior
Okay, then answer me this - If TO wasn't causing problems in the locker room, if he was still good enough to be considered an elite receiver, and knowing the cap hit they would take by making this decision, WHY DID THE COWBOYS STILL CUT HIM?
Teams don't release players when 1) they're still very productive, 2) they promote healthy team chemistry, and 3) it doesn't make financial sense to do so.
It obviously didn't make financial sense to cut TO, so the problem is either 1 or 2 or both. You tell me which one.
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No wait, I forgot option 4) this is all some evil plot involving the Cowboys + the media to oppress poor Terrell Owens. and this plot is masterminded by Bobby Carpenter.
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-SpursHaveFourRings
Well looking at their decisions over recent years, they have made quite a few senseless desicions. For instance, not drafting Randy Moss, just because media idiots around here didn't want him because of his "at ude". How very sensible of them to make a move that would improve the team.
What about cutting Quincy Carter when he was the first QB to get the Cowboys to the playoffs since Troy? And his replacement was... Vinny Testesverde? Just because Big Bill liked Vinny simply because he used to coach him? Again, a very professional, reasonable, and justified move by the Cowboys, that would lead to them improving as a squad... oh wait NVM. They sucked ass that year.
And as for constantly using Roy Williams to drop in coverage? lol, santana moss
Lastly... firing Jimmy??? Nuff said.
Cowboys have consistently made ing re ed moves over the years. So there is no reason to believe this was a perfectly reasonable and justified move.
There were 18 other teams who didn't take Moss because of his at ude. Not just the Cowboys.Well looking at their decisions over recent years, they have made quite a few senseless desicions. For instance, not drafting Randy Moss, just because media idiots around here didn't want him because of his "at ude". How very sensible of them to make a move that would improve the team.
And up until 2 years ago, alot of people still felt justified in believing that passing on Randy Moss was a good idea despite his production.
Or it could be because Quincy failed a drug test, but let's not let facts get in the way.
Last time I checked Roy Williams played safety, those guys are supposed to be used in coverage right? Dallas is the only team to ever play a safety that wasn't any good?
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1) Not drafting Moss wasn't a bone head decision as at the time there were serious questions as to his mental and emotional stability and his ability to stay out of trouble, so much so that what would have otherwise been a top 3 pick dropped near 20. Besides, when Moss was drafted Aikman was on his way down and who was the QB that was going to be getting the ball to Moss? He more than likely would have not been nearly as productive in Dallas as he was in Minnesota and would have been gone anyway. Besides, it's not like they drafted a bust in that spot, they got Ellis who has been consistently good for a decade.Well looking at their decisions over recent years, they have made quite a few senseless desicions. For instance, not drafting Randy Moss, just because media idiots around here didn't want him because of his "at ude". How very sensible of them to make a move that would improve the team.
What about cutting Quincy Carter when he was the first QB to get the Cowboys to the playoffs since Troy? And his replacement was... Vinny Testesverde? Just because Big Bill liked Vinny simply because he used to coach him? Again, a very professional, reasonable, and justified move by the Cowboys, that would lead to them improving as a squad... oh wait NVM. They sucked ass that year.
And as for constantly using Roy Williams to drop in coverage? lol, santana moss
Lastly... firing Jimmy??? Nuff said.
Cowboys have consistently made ing re ed moves over the years. So there is no reason to believe this was a perfectly reasonable and justified move.
2) Quincy Carter did lead the team to a playoff berth in 2003, but it was then revealed he had an issue with illegal drugs, and not only that but within the organization he was developing a reputation as a prima donna. That's what you want from your QB, a prima donna with a drug problem.
3) Roy Williams dropping in coverage? He's a safety, and part of a safety's responsibility is to drop into coverage. That's like blaming a coach for benching a PG who can't handle the ball, it's what he is there to do. All safety's have to be able to cover in passing situations.
4) The Cowboys didn't fire Jimmy. He left over a disagreement with Jones because both of their egos just couldn't exist anymore. Stupid? You bet. But the truth is with the salary cap on the horizon Jimmy wasn't going to be able to keep those players or put together and keep that type of talent ever again. The big loss in regards to Jimmy was 1994 when the Cowboys were the superior team but lost simply because Switzer was a rookie NFL coach.
yes BUMP..yes we do.
Fixed.
You weren't allowed to cut a player for drugs at the time. Not sure if that has changed since then though. However, I find it quite ironic that you say that, when at the time, on our previous message board, you were very unhappy with the move and also credited it to the fact that Bill did it because he wanted Vinny to start, and the drug crap was just an excuse.
So you are telling me its a smart decision to keep playing a safety that is a total liability on deep coverage, and has lost games for the team singlehandedly due to his inability to cover? How about trading him before he was running around ing up games like that, when he still looked good and had value? Or perhaps getting a good safety to cover up for his dumb ass the way Woodson was able to? No, instead they stuck with garbage like Keith Davis.
I still have seen no proof that TO ed this team up, or that cutting him solves any major problems (considering the fact that there is a much more major problem in Jason Garrett still being around).
Having Moss to bomb it deep to could have made a difference in his longevity in that he would have had a legit bail out guy, instead of taking a beating and a load of concussions because the mediocre recievers and crappy line.
Ellis has consistently been a whiner and complainer that pulls stupid bull every year as well, and while being solid, has underachieved consistently as well.
no, it would be because Q and his spaghetti arm sucked ass. Even Emmitt was hinting that the team was better when Alexander Wright was in the game.
There's no proof that TO is a problem solver and there's plenty of proof that he's an arrogant ass hole that's only concerned about TO. The Cowboys have won 0 games with him and there is nothing that says they would start winning playoff games with next year.
and you gotta be focking kidding me that you are trying to argue page after page that the Cowboys need this d-bag. If the Cowboys would have kept him, I would have been ok, but letting him go is very justifiable.
It's been shown time and time again that the key to keeping a good passing game and keeping your QB upright is a good running game and a good offensive line. In 1999, 2000, 2001, etc. the Cowboys had neither. They had a horrible offensive line and they had old ass Emmitt and Troy Hambrick. Also, the fact that Moss is a burner means that he would be most effective on deep routes yet the QBs of the time either did not have the arm or the time to hit those deep routes.
You can win with average to good receivers as long as you have a good to great running game, a good line, and a good QB. You can't win without the running game and the line.
No question you can justify him being fired. Everyday the media asked everyone about T.O. Its non stop everyday. The coaches could not handle the stress. It took from their work. To take away the excuses Jones decided to fire a 36 year old WR. Unfair yes. Will this help the boys out, no.
Don't forget all the players that were injuried last year. So when you see a better record don't go off thinking because T.O is gone is why. They went 13-3 the year before and lost in the first round because Romo sucked . They lost the year before because Romo couldn't handle a freaken extra point. It was not T.O going off to Mexico before a playoff game. That was Witten and Romo. I can go on but I won't
lol my point exactly. There were a load of other problems that has gone on during his time here, yet he basically has recieved blame for it all, while guys like Wade, Romo, and Garrett all get free passes (except by the people that know that those are the guys ing up worse than TO), when those guys did much bigger things to harm the teams chances at winning. Yet TO is the one that gets cut. He's an easy target, and was used as the scapegoat, nothing more. Again, when the Cowboys miss the playoffs once again, people will realize that there were far bigger problems on the team than whatever minor problems TO may have caused.
Bobby Carpenter's master plan succeeded!
This is the genius mastermind who took TO, the innocent lamb, and villified him with a little help from the big bad media.
All Hail Bobby Carpenter, the scheming rogue genius!
and..........
BOBBY
CARPENTER
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and it's funny how "TO has a long history of being a serious problem in the locker room" is easily dismissed by TO knobslobbers, but suddenly when it's convenient, they use the "Jerry Jones has a long history of making poor football decisions" excuse.
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