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    I am disappointed, PeeWee. VERY disappointed.
    I'm disappointed that you decided to wear eyeliner for the movie.

    Seriously, what the was that?

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    Let me know what you think when you see it.
    Well, I watched it yesterday afternoon before goin to work. A few things...

    1. Couldn't agree w/ you more that both the Silk Spectre and Ms. Jupiter were terribly cast. When the best acting you get from your actress is during a love scene in knee-high superhero/hooker boots, there's a problem...though, I'm not necessarily saying that that scene wasn't sexy as .

    2. Also in total agreement w/ your remarks concerning Rorshach. Apparently, they figured out a way to pull the character himself STRAIGHT from the pages of the graphic novel. Stellar performance.

    3. Thought Dr. Manhattan was very well done, but for whatever reason (and please don't Frued me up too severely for this), I couldn't NOT notice the giant blue penis on the screen during each shot. I was kind've hoping it wouldn't be AS defined (like in the comic books) as it was. I certainly don't envy the CGI guy that had to draw that "detail" in each time.

    4. When I thought of Ozy in the book, I thought of a larger than life persona, aside from just the clothes he chose to wear. His (again, as you said) Manhattan-like demeanor was awkward and seemingly out of character...atleast, the character I envisioned.

    Side note: So, in this Nixon-elected-for-3rd-term-alternate-dimension-or-whatever, creatures like Bubastis (again, sp?) are commonplace? Why would they just THROW him out there w/o any explanation. It caused a chuckle/lol from many un unknowing audience member. I know that thing wasn't at ALL a key character, but a quick 1 minute exchange of dialogue could've cleared a lot of confusion.

    5. The ending. Finally, where we don't NECESSARILY agree. I'll grant you that, as a fan from VERY early on, I can certainly understand your problem w/ every bit of it, but when the movie began to even drag for ME (a fan of the novel), I can see where another 30 minutes or so of build-up could've sent me, as well as your avg moviegoer over the edge.

    Overall, I thought the movie was okay. I suppose it was what I expected, so I was neither pleasantly surprised NOR disappointed. Liked Sin City better. Jessica Alba + Rosario Dawson=win.

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    Went to see this with my woman on Friday night. She was bored. I was bored too.

    Rorshach was the saving grace of the film. The only character with any passion or emotion. His scenes were the only thing keeping me from walking out after 30 minutes.

    I never read the novel. I just know the movie, and I can tell when actors are extemely flat and there is no chemistry between characters at all. This movie had me checking my phone and asking myself "how much longer" 5 or 6 times.

    Oh, and if they would have dropped a ing squid into that garbage at any point in time I would have walked out. They probably should have done that anyway because the only thing I was hearing people talk about as we all were walking out of the theater was how bad it sucked, so a squid wouldn't have done much more damage.

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    that pretty much does it for me....

    waiting for the video release....

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    Went to see this with my woman on Friday night. She was bored. I was bored too.

    Rorshach was the saving grace of the film. The only character with any passion or emotion. His scenes were the only thing keeping me from walking out after 30 minutes.

    I never read the novel. I just know the movie, and I can tell when actors are extemely flat and there is no chemistry between characters at all. This movie had me checking my phone and asking myself "how much longer" 5 or 6 times.

    Oh, and if they would have dropped a ing squid into that garbage at any point in time I would have walked out. They probably should have done that anyway because the only thing I was hearing people talk about as we all were walking out of the theater was how bad it sucked, so a squid wouldn't have done much more damage.
    My friend had the same review of the movie. Except he went to happy hour before hand, so instead of walking out, he just decided to go pass out.

    I'll wait until the dollar movies, which I suspect this movie will be at in 6 weeks.

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    Peoples interests escape me sometimes. Fanboys thought it sucked, people who never heard of it before thought it sucked. I thought it was really good. Rorschach was the best part of the movie, followed closely by Night Owl hittin that . Sure the ending was different, but the message was the same. I doubt it could have been done better. In fact, going in I thought the potential to fail was huge. But I thoroughly enjoyed it, the only things I didn't like were Ozymandias' character, and...well I already said I really liked Rorschach.

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    Maeeh, I wasn't planning on paying for that movie anyway.......


    I may downl... rent when it's on DVD

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    the movie sucked....i walked out

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    I just think that this is one of those movies that you sorta had to know what you were watching. Some people read the novel and knew what it was about and knew what to look for. The previews didn't spark my interest at all. People who had no idea who or what The Watchman were, probably were going into this movie thinking this was going to be a brand new group of exciting super heroes along the lines of The Fantastic Four.

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    I thought about maybe seeing it, but then I saw the nearly 3 hour running time and decided to do something better.

    -SpursHaveFourRings

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    I liked it a lot. I'd even go as far as to say I preferred the film's ending to the book. I think if there was a conspiracy to create a mega-disaster designed to unite humanity, people will be more engaged when a face can be put on the disaster... a single "enemy" like Dr. Manhattan. When a giant squid falls on a city, who is your enemy?

    Some of the acting was off (Veidt especially), but my only real problem with the movie was the soundtrack. I really don't think it needed so many well-known mainstream classic rock songs... it often distracted from the film and took away from the scenes they were supporting.

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    Some of the acting was off (Veidt especially), but my only real problem with the movie was the soundtrack. I really don't think it needed so many well-known mainstream classic rock songs... it often distracted from the film and took away from the scenes they were supporting.
    I definitely agree with this criticism. If it weren't for the fact that I liked most of the songs used (even if only for their nostalgic appeal), it would have really annoyed me.

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    I went and seen it and I totally enjoyed it. Haven't read the book though and I"m glad I didn't since I just went with the flow of the movie and understood it enough to get it without being critical of what was missing. I would recommend it.

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    The movies was pretty bad....cheesy and lame.

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    I loved the movie and upon further introspection I need to see it again. It's too dense for 1 viewing and like the book, takes on different meanings. I had no issue with the changes from the source material. I wish it was a little longer and hoping for a Director's Cut that comes close to what Synder really wanted.

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    I loved the movie and upon further introspection I need to see it again. It's too dense for 1 viewing and like the book, takes on different meanings. I had no issue with the changes from the source material. I wish it was a little longer and hoping for a Director's Cut that comes close to what Synder really wanted.
    According to Snyder at Wondercon, the DVD release will have a ton of extra footage, including a version of the film with the "Black Freighter" storyline edited in as it is in the novel.

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    According to Snyder at Wondercon, the DVD release will have a ton of extra footage, including a version of the film with the "Black Freighter" storyline edited in as it is in the novel.
    The Black Freighter will be released as a supplement to the Watchmen DVD. I believe the producers said it's going to be a motion comic, if not an animated feature.

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    The Black Freighter will be released as a supplement to the Watchmen DVD. I believe the producers said it's going to be a motion comic, if not an animated feature.

    Wow, the movie doesn’t even come out this month and we’ve already got news not just on a Director’s Cut, but also on the More More More edition! While speaking at a Press Junket today, Zack Snyder told my fellow writers and I about plans for Watchmen on DVD. It is as follows:

    Summer/July: Director’s Cut. This cut will feature “99% of what we shot,” footage which Zack Snyder said he liked. The run time on this edition will be just over 3 hours long, compared to the 2:35ish run time of the theatrical version. It will be more violent, more sexy, and have more naked Dr. Manhattan. Also included will be entire scenes excised from the movie for time.

    Fall/Last Quarter: The Black Freighter Edition. This le may not be the final le, but it is how Snyder identified it. He told us that they shot all the Ins and Outs of The Black Freighter pieces from the comic book, which for those of you who haven’t read it, mostly revolve around a boy and newsstand salesman. You can see these characters in the film, but they don’t have an impact on the story. The big news is that The Black Freighter, the animated movie, will be cut into the film. The animated film is said to be 22minutes long which, with the In and Out shots, will bump the presentation to about 3hours and 25minutes. Snyder referred to this release as the “fetishistic and kind of crazy” release, as it is so complete.

    So there you have it, friends. Watchmen hits theaters on March 6th and there will be all sorts of awesomeness happening on DVD (and presumably Blu-ray) later this year.

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    I couldn't NOT notice the giant blue penis on the screen during each shot. I was kind've hoping it wouldn't be AS defined (like in the comic books) as it was.

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    I've had more time to think about it, and I came up with the same conclusion. The changes at the end just kill the film for me.

    Look, it doesn't make sense to make Dr. Manhattan the scape goat. There's no way that he will serve as the deterent that makes humanity come together.

    There's a reason for this thinking.

    If you paid attention during the film, the prospect of Dr. Manhattan wreaking havoc hadn't stopped the Soviet Union from attempting to invade Afganistan. There were already overtures to this before Dr. Manhattan went missing. So, if it hadn't deterred the Soviets previously, why would it deter them now?

    Also, Dr. Manhattan was an agent for the United States. According to the movie, wich was a huge departure from the graphic novel, the Dr. Manhattan attacks happened all over the world, in cities such as Paris, Hong Kong, Moscow, etc. Why would the world not unite to attack the U.S. because one of their agents attacked them?

    There's no reason to work with, and unite with, the U.S. if they have an agent that's attacking them. Sure, there was also an attack on NYC, but that could be viewed as the U.S. covering their ass.

    It just doesn't make sense.

    What made the final chapter in the graphic novel so jarring was that the first few panels showed the carnage that occured when the squid creature appeared from another dimension. There was none of that in the movie. All that showed was a huge flash and a huge hole in the ground. There was no impact, at all.

    That just killed the movie for me.

    And, before people make claims about how the squid story would've added 30 minutes to an already long movie, that could've been very easily dealt with. Snyder could've cut out the 15 minute scence with Lee Iacoca and his auto industry goons and he could've cut the scene where Ozzy and Dr. Manhattan explain the "project" their working on together.

    That gives you the 30 minutes right there!!

    Snyder made a huge mistake changing one of the prinicpal aspects of the story's plot.

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    Also, there's the issue of Bubastis . . .

    Why put in Bubastis, which has the wrong color I might add (but that's being too picky), if you're not going to explain Veidt's foray into genetics and how that relates directly to the squid creature and his own super human strength and agility?

    That was a big swing and a miss by Snyder.

    Also, that scene where Dan and Laurie are talking about their costumed hero past . . . . it takes place in the restaurant?? Where people can hear their conversation??

    Aren't they trying to keep their past a secret??

    There's no way to justify this.

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    Wow, the movie doesn’t even come out this month and we’ve already got news not just on a Director’s Cut, but also on the More More More edition! While speaking at a Press Junket today, Zack Snyder told my fellow writers and I about plans for Watchmen on DVD. It is as follows:

    Summer/July: Director’s Cut. This cut will feature “99% of what we shot,” footage which Zack Snyder said he liked. The run time on this edition will be just over 3 hours long, compared to the 2:35ish run time of the theatrical version. It will be more violent, more sexy, and have more naked Dr. Manhattan. Also included will be entire scenes excised from the movie for time.

    Fall/Last Quarter: The Black Freighter Edition. This le may not be the final le, but it is how Snyder identified it. He told us that they shot all the Ins and Outs of The Black Freighter pieces from the comic book, which for those of you who haven’t read it, mostly revolve around a boy and newsstand salesman. You can see these characters in the film, but they don’t have an impact on the story. The big news is that The Black Freighter, the animated movie, will be cut into the film. The animated film is said to be 22minutes long which, with the In and Out shots, will bump the presentation to about 3hours and 25minutes. Snyder referred to this release as the “fetishistic and kind of crazy” release, as it is so complete.

    So there you have it, friends. Watchmen hits theaters on March 6th and there will be all sorts of awesomeness happening on DVD (and presumably Blu-ray) later this year.
    I stand corrected.

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    My post wasn't intended to negate yours. The Black Freighter stuff is being released as its own DVD, as is Watchmen, but then there will be a later release combining the two.

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    Black Freighter trailer:


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    The funny thing is that I'm not crazy about putting the Black Freighter in the movie.

    As a matter of fact, I wasn't too crazy about it being in the graphic novel. I know it forshadows what's to come and what not, but I've always thought that it gives the story too much of a distraction.

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