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Hey..I'm with you on that..but the bottom line is..you have to be consistent. If the Horford play goes for a suspension, so should this. It's the same damn thing. No difference except for the jerseys.
So wait, are you agreeing that it doesn't matter whether he went on the floor or not?
Hey..I'm with you on that..but the bottom line is..you have to be consistent. If the Horford play goes for a suspension, so should this. It's the same damn thing. No difference except for the jerseys.
lol odom..
This coming from a Laker fan who's the number 1 pampered team in the NBA
with the number 1 most pampered player in the NBA, none other than Kobe Bryant.
Guess all that ing does pay off, huh laker fans?
I'll admit, Duncan does whine, but not as much as Bryant and my
god does he cry.
He got a flagrant 2, that's good enough for me. The foul imo, wasn't that dirty. I just really, really hated how he acted afterward. You don't try and escalate after you just put a player on the floor.
I was about to say the exact same thing.
It does matter if he went on the floor.
But "floor" is considered as the playing area on the court. He wasn't there. He wasn't in the stands either. He was arguably on the bench.
How can he be penalized for "leaving the vicinity of the bench" when he doesn't leave the bench area and doesn't step on any lines onto the playing area/court?
As much of a whiner as Kobe is, Lebron is way worse. Kobe never claimed that there's something called a "crab dribble".
So anywhere other than the floor or the stands is in the immediate vicinity of the bench, then?
Absurd.
See above. A player could have set foot on the floor and still been closer to the LA bench than Odom was. Are you saying the guy in my hypothetical should have been suspended no matter what (even though the fracas was taking place mostly out of bounds) but that Odom is absolved because he never set foot on the floor.
Again, absurd.
I guess the rules, as written, really shouldn't apply to Odom. As long as he stayed off the floor he's cool, even though the rules say nothing about going on the floor in assessing whether the player left the immediate vicinity of the bench.
Again, it does not matter whether he stepped onto the court. I'd be interested in knowing where you get this "on the court" stuff, because it sure doesn't appear to exist anywhere in the written rule.
Lamar will be suspended.. Period.
The NBA comes down hard now on players who even take 2-3 steps away from the bench.
Ever since that brawl in Detroit happened, the NBA isnt taking any more chances.
The thing is, is not only did he take at least 2 steps towards the altercation, he gets involved with it in one possibly trying to pull Ariza out, though if it was an attempt ti was not a real good attempt, and also by bodying up with Roy and exchanging words. Being that he was not a active participant in the game at that time, he had no business getting involved. He should have stayed back and the Laker's coaches should have held him back or pulled him away sooner than what they did. No other Laker that was on the bench other than Odom got involved.
Even Rick Beucher, the biggest Lakers sword swallower admitted Odom left the bench and should be suspended. Come on Laker fans give it up.
But, but -- he didn't go on the floor!!!! That's all that matters.
The fact that you think Ric Bucher is a Laker sword swallower is laughable.
"KOBE BRYANT HAS PLAYED HIS LAST GAME IN A LAKER UNIFORM! I BET MY LIFE ON IT!"
He basically admitted to being the biggest Kobe apologist on the planet in a podcast with Bill Simmons.
laker fans have no shame.
have any of you addressed the horford suspension? at the time I argued it didnt deserve a suspension, and i feel the same way about ariza's. but the fact is that stu "incompetent hypocrite" jackson suspended horford and now he's looking the other way on the exact same play- its total BS, which is the only thing jackson consistently does well.
as far as odom, he clearly took steps away from his bench, not towards it, and towards the altercation, not away from it. how can you argue he never left the bench? are you telling me the altercation occurred on the lakers bench? then why wasnt every laker involved? no, odom got up and approached them when the smart thing to do was sit still or walk away.
the only good argument a laker fan has made so far was to post those videos of the rest of jackson's handiwork, which only confirms the man is completely incompetent and should be fired. randolph and west got away with slaps on the wrist relative to what they did. and of course, the celtics have been getting away with all kinds of BS since they got KG.
Dude..House..give it up..you can't change the rules..I don't care if you are the Lakers..the rules are the rules..he left the bench in an altercation..he should be suspended...period.
The only difference between the Ariza situation and the Horford situation is the color of their jerseys.
You, Sir, are a biased Laker fan and cannot be taken seriously! We don't need the US SUPREME COURT to rule on this simple matter.
The player must remain on the bench-what part of it don't you get? There are no exceptions to the rule, such as the ones you are trying to make-up.
Odom deserves a suspension because he left the bench period. Your made up theory of he "has to be on the floor' and others are just that made up theories and not actually the rule. We know you love your Lakers but get real.
Espn reported:
No punches were thrown, and the fracas was rather mild by historical standards, but Portland's Brandon Roy appeared to grab at or shove Ariza before turning his attention to Odom, who appeared to come off the Lakers bench and walk approximately 15 feet toward the fray.
"I stood up, but I stood right there -- I didn't go nowhere," Odom said.
Yeah, sure Lamar. Why don't you look at the video of yourself so you can see you did not just stand up. You did not remain on the bench. You should get suspended. But please Stern only for one game because we want to see him in SA this Thursday.
Your original statement was:
I guess you're admitting you were wrong and trying to change the subject, since I destroyed your original statement.Can't block a shot from behind without swinging.
If you have played like you say, and if you are big enough or can jump high enough to be a shot-blocker, you know you're wrong. You know that you go up with the guy and you can decide whether to go for the block, to hold off because you can't block it without fouling him, or to just whale away because you're trying to send a message.
Ariza, quite obviously, chose option 3. And he made it worse by grabbing Fernandez, after hitting him in the head, and turning him in the air so he couldn't land on his feet.
It was a nasty, dirty, thuggish play. And Ariza's lying his ass off when he says he was "going for the ball". He never got near touching the ball (watch the replay).
The Lakers are Stu Jackson's boys, and he proved it today.
at butt hurt Spur fan who is now realizing that the NBA does not look at the Lakers through their same hater colored glasses.
at least odom got suspended for a game.
Let's try this again...
Same play as the Ariza play, bag. He got suspended..why shouldn't Trevor?
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