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I've already welcomed Odumb back.
1) 7 pts, 8 rebs vs Portland
2) 2 pts, 5 rebs vs Minnesota
3) 2 pts, 13 rebs vs Memphis
4) 4 pts, 6 rebs vs Phoenix
Those are Lamar Odom's last 4 games. Is he disappearing again? After playing well most of Jan and Feb....is he reverting back to form.
This is the biggest issue with him. I still think he's the most important piece for the Lakers' le hopes even more than Bynum (if and when he comes back).
I know the Lakers fans will spin it and say they haven't needed him in the past 4 games. But, his engimatic reputation proceeds him and without him producing consistently...they won't get out of the Western Conference.
Is this a concern for the Lakers fans or since the West has been handed to the Lakers already...does it matter?
I've already welcomed Odumb back.
Serious honest question, because I respect you as a Laker fan. Do you think this "Odumb" guy you're talking about is going to be an issue if you play the Spurs in the WCF? I mean...The Lakers having the big men is their catalyst against the Spurs. If Lamar is playing this way, and with Gooden being brought in, if he plays well, it could change the Big Men tide.
Not if Bynum is here. If LO is clicking, I really don't think anyone can beat the Lakers. If LO plays like Odumb, the Lakers are very beatable.
I still think LA has better bigs, assuming Bynum is there.
That's a good question, Spursfan092120.
If Odom begins to disappear in a series with the Spurs or the Jazz that could be difference..even with or without Bynum.
He's not. All the Lakers need is a healthy KGB and the trophy will be driving down Figueroa this June.This is the biggest issue with him. I still think he's the most important piece for the Lakers' le hopes even more than Bynum (if and when he comes back).
Iron Mexican,
I believe Odom is more important than Bynum for the Lakers' le hopes. Because, Odom will go back to the 2nd unit when Bynum comes back and if he doesn't provide any scoring and rebounding with that unit....that will hurt the Lakers. Because Manu and Gooden will be in that 2nd unit and if they can get production.....it can change the course of a game.
Remember, Bynum will be coming back from his 2nd major injury and hasn't played since Jan 31st. How rusty will he be? How will be he mentally?
That's why I think Odom is more important than Bynum if the Lakers are going to win it all.
Odom VANISHED last year against the Spurs. He was on the bench during both comebacks. Who won that series again?
It won't matter though, Bynum is coming this time around.
Nope, everyone knows Kobe will get his and Gasol will get his points but they can't win the le with those two only.
Odom is so important and is the difference for them. If he disappears...the Lakers will not win the WC.
They did it last year without Bynum. They'll easily do it gain this season.
Bynum is way more important than Odumb.
He also had eight assists and six blocks in this game. Other than the scoring, that's a pretty kick-ass line.
No..because the Spurs can mix and match with their bigs. With the addition of Gooden has changed that in the Spurs favor....especially if he can give rebounding and scoring in the post with the 2nd unit. That means TD can be fresher and it will give the Spurs more balance. His signing will be that important.
Yes, Odom didn't play great in last year's series. But I'm looking at this year and the Spurs have gotten better offensively despite all their injuries. And know they have all the pieces to go after the championship.
Again, I think you are underestimating the importance of Odom and his skill set. He is the key for them winning it all.
I always see every other fan base say "You guys(Laker fans) underrate Odom" When it's far from the truth. Everyone else overrates him.
JoeTait75,
That's nice...but he will need to score more against the better teams like he did against the Cavs in Cleveland and in Boston.
His offense makes the Lakers a much more balanced team and without it they can beat the Grizzlies or Timberwolves..but not the Spurs, Jazz, Celts, or Cavs.
Yeah...but if Gooden is playing...and of course Duncan is playing...and Lamar is playing as he is now, isn't it logical that two good bigs playing well is better than one?
No they won't! They will need his scoring and rebounding to get out of the west.
He vanished in the one game the Lakers lost and in Game 1, which the Lakers won by 5. In the other three games he was actually pretty good, averaging 9.6 rebs and 16.3 pts.
So, if Bynum isn't ready to play it looks like the Lakers are really going to need Odom to show up.
Not when Bynum gets back. All he has to do is show up every night, rebound and defend. Lake Show has plenty of scoring when healthy, inside and out.
Now, if Bynum isn't 100 percent, that changes things. But if he is, Odom just needs to provide some glue.
No worries Laker fans...Pop will just put Finley on Odom and he will proceed to go off.
Yes..but so is George Hill, Roger Mason, Drew Gooden, Bonner is a different player this year, and we still have Bowen to aggravate Kobe.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. So Gooden is the key to the Spurs beating the Lakers. Obviously he's more important than Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza.
Your little dream falls flat on its face. Bynum guards Tim Duncan much much much better than Gasol does. Which means Gasol is fresher and TP doesn't get as many easy layups. Not only that, but Ariza can also spell Kobe on the defensive end. Fresher Kobe = more ass raping of the Spurs in the 4th
The Lakers have gotten better offensively and defensively despite all their injuries.
No I'm not, you're just overrating him. The key is Bynum. He fixes the Lakers biggest weakness: defense and is a much more reliable 3rd option than Odom. Simple as that.
If you were talking about Boston, you might be right. Maybe. But not SA. They are nowhere near the Lakers level. Worry about getting to the WCF before even thinking about the rare chance of beating the Lakers.
Yeah. But that's why I said this all depends on Bynum. And I do think that Odom is a bad match-up for Gooden on the defensive side of the ball. Odom does well against PF's that aren't quick off their feet(which is why he was great vs the Jazz last season)
Good analogy...we'll have to see what happens.
Again, JoeTait75....
The signing of Gooden has given the Spurs another big to mix and match with now. Also, if Gooden can score and rebounding with the 2nd unit.
Bynum is a good young player...but he wasn't avg 20-10 yet. And if TD gets help a little from Gooden...it will make a difference for the Spurs.
That's why I believe Odom is more important than Bynum even if he comes back. His versatility and skill set can be very effective and makes the Lakers offense that much more powerful and difficult to stop.
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