Fastest Dow drop in at least 90 years

[ChumpDumper]

I mean Chump...why don't you just go take a look at where people are putting their money now...I already know the answer. I was looking at it his morning. It's not the stock market.

Everybody already knows the answer is "not the stock market." Are you saying you just discovered this and no one else could have possibly known before you posted it?

It's a ty economy. People will stay out of the market until they think it will be a lot less ty. I read about it this morning.

[johnsmith]

It doesn't encourage investing in the market.

And no, the stupidest argument ever made is you saying " em", it proves you pretty much know nothing about how the market works.

Why don't you go tell your boss " you" and see if that helps your earnings with him any.

You'd have to be employed to do that.

[whottt]

Everybody already knows the answer is "not the stock market." Are you saying you just discovered this and no one else could have possibly known before you posted it?

Well evidentally all the people that voted for Obama didn't know it.



And if you go look at the sector least impacted by this recent decline...you'll pretty much get the word "tax" stuck up your butt about as far as it can go. Well that and precious metals.

And that's without even taking into account the role it plays in discouraging investment by investors because it's likely to discourage investment by investors, which is a point you and ballijuana seem to be incapable of grasping.

It's a ty economy. People will stay out of the market until they think it will be a lot less ty. I read about it this morning.

They'll never come back like it was unless it becomes the best place for their money, and the likely hood of that happening isn't going to be increased with the specter of a capital gains tax looming. It's a negative, not a positive, and this market pretty much has all the negatives it can handle.



And just to win this, because I can, forget about the impact the cap gains has on discouraging investment into the market, WHICH IS THE SOLE DETERMINANT, why don't you and ballijuana go ahead and yank your earnings out of your IRA's...

I mean what , it's just a little tax, and no one's worried about that, right?

[ChumpDumper]

Well evidentally all the people that voted for Obama didn't know it.

Of course they did. A lot of them have money.

And if you go look at the sector least impacted by this recent decline...you'll pretty much the word "tax" stuck up your butt about as far as it can go.

Had that been intelligible, I'm sure it would have been devastating.

They'll never come like it was unless it becomes the best place for their money, and the likely hood of that happening isn't going to be increased with the specter of a capital gains tax looming. It's a negative, not a positive, and this market pretty much has all the negatives it can handle.

Yep. Something else will change and the money will come back in again.

And just to win this, because I can, forget about the impact the cap gains has on discouraging investment into the market, WHICH IS THE SOLE DETERMINANT, why don't you and ballijuana go ahead and yank your earnings out of your IRA's...

Why don't you start making coherent sentences again. Post again when you aren't high -- and thanks again for proving my point.

I mean what , it's just a little tax, and no one's worried about that, right?

I'm not at retirement age, so why would I touch my IRA?

[whottt]

Of course they did. A lot of them have money.

Had that been intelligible, I'm sure it would have been devastating.

It was devastating whether you understood it or not.

Yep. Something else will change and the money will come back in again.

Not really true.

Why don't you start making coherent sentences again. Post again when you aren't high.

I'm not at retirement age, so why would I touch my IRA?

Why do you have it an IRA? Must be stupidity...

[whottt]

BTW, this belongs in the above post...wouldn't want to leave you confused and unable to understand what I was saying:

"in"

If you can't figure out where it belongs...let me know and I'll be happy to help.

[ChumpDumper]

It was devastating whether you understood it or not.

Not really, you just say stuff to say stuff -- but it's fun to read anyway.

Not really true.

Of course it is.

Why do you have it an IRA? Must be stupidity...

Because I'm in my thirties and have money. Had you something other than credit care debt, you might understand.

[whottt]

Because I'm in my thirties and have money.

So? Take it out of the IRA and put it in a regular account and don't touch it until you're retirement age...

Thanks for agreeing with me.

PS: Shame on you...there are poor people like myself that could get a meal out of you pulling your cash out of your IRA...hypocrite.

Had you something other than credit care debt, you might understand.

LOL...I have a bunch of I didn't spend my own money on, that makes me the smartest of all investors.

[whottt]

I just wish Obama would hurry up and get his ass in gear so you could start paying for my healthcare...it's one of things I'm planning on enjoying the most about his Presidency.

[whottt]

First thing I'm doing when you start paying my health care is seeing if you can get laser hair removal for your face...I hate shaving.

[ChumpDumper]

So? Take it out of the IRA and put it in a regular account and don't touch it until you're retirement age...

Why?

Thanks for agreeing with me.

You agreed with me first.

PS: Shame on you...there are poor people like myself that could get a meal out of you pulling your cash out of your IRA...hypocrite.

Why do you think that is my only investment?

LOL...I have a bunch of I didn't spend my own money on, that makes me the smartest of all investors.

LOL...Define "a bunch of " -- although I guess you just did.

[whottt]

Why?

Why not? Stop being facetious.

You agreed with me first.

I really didn't.

Why do you think that is my only investment?

Link to me saying it was?

LOL...Define "a bunch of " -- although I guess you just did.

Hey give it time...it'll probably be worth more than your IRA in 5 years

[ChumpDumper]

Why not? Stop being facetious.

No need.

I really didn't.

You didn't think you did.

Probably still don't -- but that's not my problem.

Hey give it time...it'll probably be worth more than your IRA in 5 years

Not a chance -- it's just a bunch of after all.

[whottt]

No need.

Sure...if you don't feel compelled to prove your claim about taxes being a minor nuisance.

Not a chance -- it's just a bunch of after all.

Wallstreet is filled with the splatmarks from those who held similar views.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure...if you don't feel compelled to prove your claim about taxes being a minor nuisance.

It's a factor, but not the only factor. Thanks again for proving that earlier.

Wallstreet is filled with the splatmarks from those who held similar views.

Many more people with similar views made money and more will make money in the future. Don't hate because you can't be one of them.

[whottt]

It's a factor

but not the only factor. Thanks again for proving that earlier.

Since I was never arguing otherwise, you're welcome, wasn't my intent, and it certainly wasn't my point. But I'm glad you got something out of it, you usually do. If only the stock market were as realiable as you are.

Many more people with similar views made money and more will make money in the future.

And what views are those exactly?

Don't hate because you can't be one of them.

Hey I'm getting into this market. I'm just not getting into it with the foolish delusion that making money simply by being in it is a certainty. Wallstreet is full of the splatmarks of people who held that view....not mine. And it could be decades and well after our lifetimes before people return to the degree they have been in it in recent memory. And a cap gains tax increase isn't going to speed that up any either. It's not going to encourage people to come back. It's not going to encourage them to stay.

Like I said, you'd have to have been an idiot to fail to make money in the market as it has been over much of the past 15-18 years. A true idiot. And that is no longer the case.

Furthermore...I don't where you get off saying that I can't make money in it. I already had a house and a farm totally paid for when I was younger than you are now. I just learned the hard way that money isn't everything...

Spending your entire life a slave in pursuit of a comfortable life the last 15 years of your life is pretty much at the top of my list of ways to completely waste your entire life.

[johnsmith]

Worst "back and forth" EVER!

[ChumpDumper]

Since I was never arguing otherwise, you're welcome, wasn't my intent, and it certainly wasn't my point. But I'm glad you got something out of it...if only the stock market were as realiable as you are.

And what views are those exactly?

That money can be made in the stock market.

Hey I'm getting into this market. I'm just not getting into it with the foolish delusion that making money simply by being in it it is a certainty.

Well great, because that was the big problem. Same thing in real estate -- I'm sure you know all about that.

Wallstreet is full of the splatmarks of people who held that view....not mine. And it could decades for people to return to the degree they have been in it in recent memory. And cap gains tax isn't going to speed that up any either.

Eh, if you personally could predict the market with any certainty, you would have money because of it.

Like I said, you'd have to have been an idiot to fail to make money in the market as it has been over much of the past 15-18 years. A true idiot. And that is no longer the case.

Great.

Furthermore...I don't where you get off saying that I can't make money in it. I already had a house and a farm totally paid for when I was younger than you are now. I just learned the hardway that money isn't everything...

I've done with and without money. With is better.

Spending your entire life a slave in pursuit of a comfortable life the last 15 years of your life is pretty much at the top of my list of ways to completely waste your entire life.

Of course, your way has to be the absolute best.

Because it's yours.

How could that possibly be disputed?

[johnsmith]

Good lord, when will this get better?

[ChumpDumper]

Good lord, when will this get better?

The market or the thread?

[johnsmith]

The market or the thread?

Thread.


Market has a year or two.

[whottt]

That money can be made in the stock market.

I said money could be made in this market in my first post.

You can make money in any market. You can make money of the market performing badly...but that's not to mean the stock market is doing well.

Well great, because that was the big problem. Same thing in real estate -- I'm sure you know all about that.

Low blow. I never said I was a good salesman...In fact I'm pretty certain I'm one of the tiest salesmen to ever walk the face of the Earth.

And there is definitely money to be made in Real Estate right now, in fact, that's where the best investment opportunities are right now IMHO.

Eh, if you personally could predict the market with any certainty, you would have money because of it.

Spoken like someone who's never gotten a divorce

Of course, your way has to be the absolute best.

Because it's yours.

How could that possibly be disputed?

I don't know but people keep attempting to do it...if you figure it out let me know.

[ChumpDumper]

Thread.

Never.

Market has a year or two.

I've heard that a lot.

[ChumpDumper]

I said money could be made in this market in my first post.

You can make money in any market. You can make money of the market performing badly...but that's not to mean the stock market is doing well.

Sure. I'll leave that to the smeagols of the world.

Low blow. I never said I was a good salesman...In fact I'm pretty certain I'm one of the tiest salesmen to ever walk the face of the Earth.

And there is definitely money to be made in Real Estate right now, in fact, that's where the best investment opportunities are right now IMHO.

It's interesting that you take that as an insult, but it wasn't meant that way.

Spoken like someone who's never gotten a divorce

Exactly. The trick was to not get married in the first place and get with someone who had already gone through all that crap.

I don't know but people keep attempting to do it...if you figure it out let me know.

If I figure out that your way of life isn't the best way of life for everyone? Done.

[whottt]

Exactly. The trick was to not get married in the first place and get with someone who had already gone through all that crap.

Yeah well...I never said I was an expert on marriage.

If I figure out that your way of life isn't the best way of life for everyone? Done.

No...if you figure out why people keep disputing.