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    No more Bonner. I think that could be a good idea starting Thomas and using Gooden more off the bench.

    Bonner might be helpful against other teams, but I think he is pretty much bordering on useless against the Lakers. I really don't think he needs any minutes against the Lakers.
    Agreed!

    Not happy with the loss but not worried to play them in the playoffs.

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    agreed!

    Not happy with the loss but not worried to play them in the playoffs.
    +1

    Man, I can't wait to see a healthy Manu and Gooden shoking the Lakers in the playoffs

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    Spurs with Manu > Lakers with Bynum

    See you all in the WCF! GO SPURS GO!!!!!

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    - Pop not going CIA
    - We are much better this year with the additions of CLUTCH Mason and Hill, who's an upgrade over JV
    - a rested Bowen playing more minutes = good D and corner 3's
    - No Hill on Kobe
    - Gooden playing more
    - Bonner playing more
    - Manu playing...duh!

    - AND if we are 100% healthy

    I appreciate your endless optimism. I certainly hope these things come to pass.

    Are they possible? Sure. Are they all likely to have any bearing on the final result? No. I agree that Mason was a nice pickup, and his basket in Dec. gave us that one lucky win, but it's not like we haven't had good shooters against these guys in the past. Is he an upgrade? Sure. But a difference-maker? Not at all.

    Bowen will make Kobe work ... but Kobe will still get his and prevail in the end. And it's not like Bruce can guard all the Lakers.

    And I'm sure you don't mean to say that Gooden or Bonner scare the Lakers one bit. I like the Gooden pickup, but he's not what would make the difference.

    A healthy Manu ... maybe. But how likely is that, given his track record? And, the one time he owned the Lakers in the playoffs, that was with a much inferior Laker team. These Lakers ... are no joke.

    And I don't buy the CIA Pop stuff. At least not tonight.

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    I've never given up. I get real ty during the regular season, but that doesn't mean I'm even close to giving up on the big picture.
    LMFAO.
    mmmmmmmmmm....justification. Feels good, doesn't it?

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    spurs with manu > lakers with bynum

    see you all in the wcf! Go spurs go!!!!!
    +1

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    Yeah, I'm so sure Drew Gooden is the missing ingredient to our le aspirations. He keeps Kobe & co. up at night, wondering how they're going to defend him.
    he works around the Post where the Spurs struggle to get anything against the Lakers, he won't be a solve-it-all piece but he'll be something extra the Spurs can throw out there.

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    - Pop not going CIA in the playoffs
    - We are much better this year with the additions of CLUTCH Mason and Hill, who's an upgrade over JV
    - a rested Bowen playing more minutes = good D and corner 3's
    - No Hill on Kobe
    - Gooden playing more
    - Bonner playing more
    - Manu playing...duh!

    - AND if we are 100% healthy
    You want to play Bonner more against the Lakers?

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    I appreciate your endless optimism. I certainly hope these things come to pass.

    Are they possible? Sure. Are they all likely to have any bearing on the final result? No. I agree that Mason was a nice pickup, and his basket in Dec. gave us that one lucky win, but it's not like we haven't had good shooters against these guys in the past. Is he an upgrade? Sure. But a difference-maker? Not at all.

    Bowen will make Kobe work ... but Kobe will still get his and prevail in the end. And it's not like Bruce can guard all the Lakers.

    And I'm sure you don't mean to say that Gooden or Bonner scare the Lakers one bit. I like the Gooden pickup, but he's not what would make the difference.

    A healthy Manu ... maybe. But how likely is that, given his track record? And, the one time he owned the Lakers in the playoffs, that was with a much inferior Laker team. These Lakers ... are no joke.

    And I don't buy the CIA Pop stuff. At least not tonight.
    Do you seriously think Pop would have put Hill on Kobe in the postseason vs LA?

    Or would have kept Bonner and Ime that long on the court, and Bowen that much on the bench?

    And he'll give more minutes to Gooden too

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    You want to play Bonner more against the Lakers?
    Opoooops I meant playing less

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    Yeah, I'm so sure Drew Gooden is the missing ingredient to our le aspirations. He keeps Kobe & co. up at night, wondering how they're going to defend him.
    i'm sorry you are seeing the whole picture here

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    No one is saying that they will guarantee us a win, well they shouldn't be saying that, but they will definitely give us a real shot to win it.

    I think adding Gooden and having Manu back will give us a better chance of beating L.A. in the playoffs, sure.


    But the odds were'nt very high to begin with. Without that duo, we were looking at getting swept or going down 4-1.

    With them, 4-2 ... if the Spurs play their best.

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    LMFAO.
    mmmmmmmmmm....justification. Feels good, doesn't it?
    What are you on about? Like I said to Ruff. Don't take anything I say too serious during a game thread, especially in the regular season.

    I think we can win it. If you don't go laugh somewhere else.

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    Opoooops I meant playing less
    Good stuff man. I now agree with pretty much everything you said. You really had me going there by saying Bonner playing more .

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    Do you seriously think Pop would have put Hill on Kobe in the postseason vs LA?

    Or would have kept Bonner and Ime that long on the court, and Bowen that much on the bench?

    And he'll give more minutes to Gooden too

    . Pop will not use Ime and Bonner so much in the Playoffs playing like that.

    Fin, Mason, Manu > Udoka (odd man out)

    TD, Thomas, Gooden > Bonner & Fab (odd men out, unless really needed)

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    Don't take anything I say too serious during a game thread, especially in the regular season.


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    I think adding Gooden and having Manu back will give us a better chance of beating L.A. in the playoffs, sure.


    But the odds were'nt very high to begin with. Without that duo, we were looking at getting swept or going down 4-1.

    With them, 4-2 ... if the Spurs play their best.
    If healthy and in form i disagree. We'll have a real shot to win.

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    During a game thread, not after the game is over dip . When the game is over you stfu and listen .

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    Tony Parker showed that he has matured in tonight's game. This was a game where he had a bad first half and turned it all around in the same game when it mattered most. Tony did what he has been doing a lot lately. That is some real mental toughness from TP. Games like this from TP show that his mental toughness is getting up there with Manu. Great to have another player with a steel will. Props to TP for laying it out there.
    I agree with you again. TP has always been a great player with a little question in his mental toughness (especially when he plays the Lakers.) Tonight's game has shown that he can be that player who can break out from bad situation. He and Manu together will be great for us in the Playoffs.

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    Do you seriously think Pop would have put Hill on Kobe in the postseason vs LA?

    Or would have kept Bonner and Ime that long on the court, and Bowen that much on the bench?

    And he'll give more minutes to Gooden too

    (1) No. He wanted to see what the kid could do. But that's no exactly covert ops. Smart coaches do that. Kobe knows what Bruce does and vice versa. It'll be a fun matchup, and I agree that Bruce is still one of the best at what he does, but there's no way Kobe loses it. Kobe may have to work for it, but he'll still get his, and there's still Gasol, Odom, Fisher to worry about too.

    (2) In general I agree that Pop will shorten his bench come playoff time. But how is this year's group any better than the one that got spanked last year? Even with Gooden.

    Overall ... I'm tired of the excuses. Well, if we'd had a better 1st Q, or if we'd had fewer turnovers, or made FTs, or hadn't played Ime so much, blablabla. That's what losers and Sons fans say (same thing, but whatever). The point is, we lost again to them, just like last year's playoffs, and it is very likely to happen that same way again this year. And Manu and Gooden won't make a darn bit of difference.

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    During a game thread, not after the game is over dip . When the game is over you stfu and listen .
    LMAO...that's right...assert your power! The internet is strong with this one!

    Now go make me some more of that lemonade !

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    I agree with you again. TP has always been a great player with a little question in his mental toughness (especially when he plays the Lakers.) Tonight's game has shown that he can be that player who can break out from bad situation. He and Manu together will be great for us in the Playoffs.
    Two players with steel will that will not give up is better than one.

    TP played with heart tonight.

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    I appreciate your endless optimism. I certainly hope these things come to pass.

    Are they possible? Sure. Are they all likely to have any bearing on the final result? No. I agree that Mason was a nice pickup, and his basket in Dec. gave us that one lucky win, but it's not like we haven't had good shooters against these guys in the past. Is he an upgrade? Sure. But a difference-maker? Not at all.

    Bowen will make Kobe work ... but Kobe will still get his and prevail in the end. And it's not like Bruce can guard all the Lakers.

    And I'm sure you don't mean to say that Gooden or Bonner scare the Lakers one bit. I like the Gooden pickup, but he's not what would make the difference.

    A healthy Manu ... maybe. But how likely is that, given his track record? And, the one time he owned the Lakers in the playoffs, that was with a much inferior Laker team. These Lakers ... are no joke.

    And I don't buy the CIA Pop stuff. At least not tonight.

    I understand that you are pessimistic about the Spurs chances, but I think that you are underselling Mason and Gooden and making an assumption that Ginobili can't or won't recover.


    Mason is a double digit scorer for us and can score more. He also made the team younger.

    We don't need a lot to be even with the Lakers. We needed a legitimate second big who can help us rebounding and keep defenses honest. Gooden is that person. And he can definitely fill that role. This game was a perfect illustration of the difference between Bonner as a rebounder and Gooden. And rebounding and second chance points were a major factor in the loss.

    We played without our third best player on the team. Now, any team that has lost a player of Ginobili's ability will be significantly weaker. But I'm not going to assume that Ginobili can't come back healthy. The Spurs don't seem to believe that.

    So, as most of the posters here have said, with a healthy Manu Ginobili and an assimilated Gooden who plays major minutes, this team can beat the Lakers.

    I see what I view as a mistake in your premise: the Lakers are far better than us and we need some huge change and another superstar to beat them. I don't see that as true. WE just needed the improvements that come from Gooden playing more minutes (and knowing the system) and Ginobili healthy. That and Mason and Hill. And that makes us completely capable of beating them and not, in my view, major underdogs. We might be slight underdogs, but no more than slight and I would say that we have an equal shot at winning the series against them.


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    Gooden works around the Post where the Spurs struggle to get anything against the Lakers, he won't be a solve-it-all piece but he'll be something extra the Spurs can throw out there.
    That's all fine. I like Gooden, thought it was a fine pickup. But to say he's that much better than the bigs we already have is stretching it. Gasol, Odom, and Bynum (when they get his leg reattached) will own him like they own Thomas, Oberto, and Bonner.

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    LMAO...that's right...assert your power! The internet is strong with this one!

    Now go make me some more of that lemonade !
    Have you actually got anything good to say? I'd like to hear something about the game from you other that soft takes.

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