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    The Western Conference is back to its 1960's/1980's equilibrium. Nothing short of a fluke will keep the Lakers from going to the Finals.

    With Bruce Bowen's career basically over, the Spurs are forced to try to outscore the Lakers, and even when SA is at full strength, that is a tall, tall order. Between Manu and Tim, it's unlikely the Spurs ever get back to full strength this season.

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    Win or lose I want the Spurs to play the Lakers in the playoffs. I don't want some team to come in and upset them and then we will have to hear nothing but excuses and what if's.

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    The Spurs are huge underdogs to the Lakers even without Bynum in a 7 game series, Manu or no Manu.

    The Spurs legit chances for this season ended when RC hung out stateside while Tiago Splitter was making up his mind in Spain.
    And/or when Gasol was so neatly "donated" to the Lakers. The Lakers would have been a nice team, but nowhere near the dominant force they are now without the miraculous and highly improbable Gasol trade.

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    What's our record against the Lakers since the Gasol trade? It must be horrific.

    He just changes everything and tilts the matchups so much in the Lakers favor that it's damn near hopeless. If the Spurs don't win this year, that will be the end of the le run and history should note that it all ended for us with the Gasol trade.
    LOL so difficult to take this poster seriously with his user name.
    You are so true to that name.

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    And/or when Gasol was so neatly "donated" to the Lakers. The Lakers would have been a nice team, but nowhere near the dominant force they are now without the miraculous and highly improbable Gasol trade.
    With the Grizzlies nearing insolvency, the Gasol trade is starting to remind me of the way the Spurs got George Gervin from the Squires.

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    Ouch, this is just depressing. And he's out starting "Center"


    Yeah and they missed the shot on that last play run cause bonner rotated well defensively. But again, sorry to let facts get in the way of a typical spursreporttalk bonner bash!!!!

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    Yeah and they missed the shot on that last play run cause bonner rotated well defensively. But again, sorry to let facts get in the way of a typical spursreporttalk bonner bash!!!!
    Bonner absolutely sucks as a low post defender. Possibly the worst in the history of the Spurs. Sorry to let facts spoil your delusion.

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    Overall I wasn't too upset about last night's game. Don't get me wrong I'm never happy with a win and I definitely didn't like how we played in the first quarter. It was like we were in awe and hesitant to show that we can play with them. What I did like was that we didn't go away and actually clawed ourselves back into the game. A lot of times when the Spurs dig a hole they kind of give up and we get blown out. I thought for sure that was going to happen, but fortunately I was wrong.

    I do think that at this time the Lakers are better than us. However, I don't think they are unbeatable. The key to playing against the Lakers is for us to start out sharp. We also have to get something from Mason and Bonner. I feel like they are the key. We can't be making silly turnovers and missing free throws against a team of that caliber. Hopefully it won't take Parker a full half to play well next time.

    I was happy with what I saw from Gooden last night. He had 4 rebounds in only 3 minutes. If he can stay healthy then I think he is a massive improvement to our front line.

    Our chances all come down to health this year. It's apparent that Duncan is not 100% He's looked a little off since he's come back. Hopefully he can get back on track and play like he was before he was injured. Obviously for any chance at all we need Ginobli back and healthy. I'm all for keeping him out until it's absolutely necessary for him to come back.

    All in all if (and I know it's a big if) the Spurs can get healthy and play together I think we have a chance.

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    The Western Conference is back to its 1960's/1980's equilibrium. Nothing short of a fluke will keep the Lakers from going to the Finals.

    With Bruce Bowen's career basically over, the Spurs are forced to try to outscore the Lakers, and even when SA is at full strength, that is a tall, tall order. Between Manu and Tim, it's unlikely the Spurs ever get back to full strength this season.
    I look at the prospect of the Spurs trying to outscore anyone the same way I look at them playing small ball for the first time in 2006. It's a bit of both surrender and realization. Pop is essentially "making a deal with the devil", in that he's willing to sacrifice the team's iden y to evolve into another style. It isn't always successful, but at least he's experimenting.

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    I look at the prospect of the Spurs trying to outscore anyone the same way I look at them playing small ball for the first time in 2006. It's a bit of both surrender and realization. Pop is essentially "making a deal with the devil", in that he's willing to sacrifice the team's iden y to evolve into another style. It isn't always successful, but at least he's experimenting.
    It's all he can do, really. You go to war with the army you have.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

    By Johnny Ludden,
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    But deep down, the Spurs also left Thursday knowing this: For them, the Lakers are matchup . That doesn’t make the Spurs different from most of the NBA, but it also won’t help them in May.
    This matchup mess all began after the '06 playoff loss when the Spurs felt they had to matchup with Dallas and "small ball." Bigs were a thing of the past in the NBA everyone said.

    So the Spurs built their team to get past Dallas.

    Then a funny thing happened -- the NBA/Memphis/Jerry West bequeathed Pao Gasol to the Lakers for nothing and a fat high school kid, Bynum, developed into a player. Suddenly the Lakers, not the Mavs, were the team you had to match up with and they had real "Bigs."

    The misfortune was compounded when Mahinmi failed to develop and Splitter backed out of the plan for him to be Spur this year.

    So now it is what it is. But I still think the Spurs have some matchup options they haven't yet revealed.

    “Just give the ball to whoever Bonner is guarding,” Rasheed Wallace yelled.


    (Drew Gooden better blend in quick if the Spurs have to beat the Lakers in a playoff series.)

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    The misfortune was compounded when Mahinmi failed to develop and Splitter backed out of the plan for him to be Spur this year.
    You left out Scola? I personally think Scola and Splitter were the two biggest misfortunes for the Spurs. And to an extent, I still wonder why Gist was sent off when the Spurs have been missing a young, lanky SF for years now.

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    The key of Spurs' success is as every year health.

    Playoffs start in one month. If Spurs are healthy, they won't be favorites but they won't be as far as some people think of Lakers, Cavs and Boston.

    The almost sure thing is that Spurs will give everything they have in the playoffs. The last time they laid an egg was in 04. Beating a Spurs team at full strength won't be an easy task.

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    Finding a Spurs team at full strength won't be an easy task either.

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    Finding a Spurs team at full strength won't be an easy task either.
    Thanks, captain obvious.

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    What's our record against the Lakers since the Gasol trade? It must be horrific.

    He just changes everything and tilts the matchups so much in the Lakers favor that it's damn near hopeless. If the Spurs don't win this year, that will be the end of the le run and history should note that it all ended for us with the Gasol trade.

    Agree. The Gasol trade tipped the matchups in favor of the Lakers. Since that trade the Lakers don't have much trouble handling the Spurs.

    The spurs needed to counter with another top big Camby or R Wallace (and those guys are not even as good as Gasol)and could not get it done.

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    Agree. The Gasol trade tipped the matchups in favor of the Lakers. Since that trade the Lakers don't have much trouble handling the Spurs.

    The spurs needed to counter with another top big Camby or R Wallace (and those guys are not even as good as Gasol)and could not get it done.
    SA just have to mix it up a little bit (Gooden, Bonner, Oberto, Thomas)... is there enough time to find that right mix? I don't think so

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    Pop went CIA hardcore

    I'm not worried

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    Laker fans are too damn confident about last night. There were too many "CIA" moments that we sure as wont see at all if we play the Lakers in the Playoffs:

    1.) Hill on Kobe (Clearly an experiment, when Bruce was in on Kobe, he did not shoot well..so in the final moments of the game, why put Hill (a rookie) on Kobe? To experiment of course....)

    2.) Hill on Walton (Another CIA moment, I mean come on, Walton clearly outweighs Hill and could post him up all night if he wanted)

    3.) Ime on Powell (Powell is taller and of course outweighs Udoka, why would Pop wanna throw that match-up out there)

    4.) A lineup at ANY time of Mason, Bowen, Udoka, Thomas, and Oberto. (You gotta be outta your mind to throw that lineup out there against the Lakers, obvious mix and matching and trying things out..nothing serious)

    5.) If Bonner continues to play like this against the Lakers, we will see more Thomas and Gooden.

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    Yeah and they missed the shot on that last play run cause bonner rotated well defensively. But again, sorry to let facts get in the way of a typical spursreporttalk bonner bash!!!!
    Changing your username doesn't change the facts that your still a sarcastic A hole who is disrespectful to other posters and doesn't know how to get his point across without being an arrogant pr*ck.

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    I hear Lebron James will be a free agent

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    Changing your username doesn't change the facts that your still a sarcastic A hole who is disrespectful to other posters and doesn't know how to get his point across without being an arrogant pr*ck.



    So you attack me rather than address what I said?


    Ok.

    Nothing I said was arrogant or being a prick.

    It's fact, and if you find that "insulting" you need to grow some goddamn skin, let alone thicker skin.

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    Ludden is an idiot. The Spurs lost by 7 and beat them the time before that. Also, this is a meaningless regular season game. No matter how much the media hypes it up, this single game out of 82 means virtually nothing. If it meant something, Tim Duncan would have shown up in the 1st quarter. I heard another idiot ranting about Tim Duncan last night on Fox radio.

    In the long run, this game helps us because it keeps us under the radar.

    Also, we will be playing Ginobili in the playoffs. If this were a playoff game, he would have been on the court.

    Kobe shot 9-21. Wow! A real killer. That unstopable. We can bring Bowen out in the playoffs if need be. While the Fox idiot was ranting that Duncan shot bad, 6-13, and thumping about Kobe, keep in mind that if Duncan goes 3-8 on 8 extra shots, he's tied with Kobe.

    And Gooden looked good, he has 18 more games to learn how to rotate on defense.

    A smart betting man rides with the Spura for # 5.

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    I'd like to bet said "smart gambling man".

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    Finally someone keeping it real.

    Let's face is Spurs fans. The Spurs don't have more than a "heart of a champion" chance of beating LA because both on paper and in the matchups they don't measure up.

    1 - Only reason SA came back was Finley playing his best game of the year and LA having tired legs from their 3rd road game in 4 nights.

    2 - The Spurs no longer have the defense to jam the triangle like they did in the past. Now, LA can get high quality shots every trip down.

    3 - Duncan obviously won't be 100% this season and without his explosion he's not going to dominate at the level the Spurs need. Length bothers him and LA has 3 guys that give him fits in Gasol, Odom, and Bynum.

    4 - LA's ability to switch and dare Parker to shoot has Tony in his head. Only 1 layup yesterday iirc. Whats more - he didn't even attack early on because he knew what was waiting for him after that LA game. LA didn't even have to go for the ace in that matchup of playing Ariza on him when he gets going.

    5 - 3 games and the only win by SA was when LA was coming off 3 games in 4 nights, and a B2B, and where injuries had them only playing 8 guys. In the game with rest LA ran them out the gym and if it wasn't for tired legs and Finley LA would have ran them out the gym last night.

    6 - Fatigue isn't whats wrong with the Spurs - its old legs combined with lack of athleticism. When Luke Walton can drive easiliy against your team - you got some serious injury issues.

    7 - I'm a Gooden fan but he too is obviously hurt. Add him next to Duncan and Ginobili and its trouble. When Roger Mason and Finley have to try to be the Man - you're not beating LA.

    8 - No mental advantage for the Spurs over LA because LA took them out last year.

    9 - The Spurs execution isn't as tight as previous years because of so many new players. It hurts on both offense and defense and they aren't the well-oiled machine they once were.

    10 - Bowen, who has defended Kobe great over the years, is done. Kobe was blowing by him so bad it was out of kindness Pop pulled him out.



    There is a hypothetical chance the Spurs beat LA in a playoff series but its no doubt a longshot for good reason. Just a bad matchup for the Spurs.
    You failed at your attempt to be one of the few rational Laker fans.

    Another homer.

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