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    Thank you, Tim Duncan! peskypesky's Avatar
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    Well, I was one of the ones who had a near-orgasm when Gooden signed with the Spurs....and so far, I am really liking what I'm seeing. He is EXACTLY the player I thought he was. He is a post presence, plain and simple.

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    The real question is can he stop Gasol, Bynum, Odom?
    I don't think its as much about stopping them as it is about him just playing his game and contributing with his strengths. Keeping those guys off the offensive glass with his rebounding and helping with the scoring droughts when Duncan is not on the floor is bigger than any defensive impact he will make. If he can just get in the way and not get ran over and not pick up silly fouls then that will be enough IMO. Anything extra is just gravy.

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    You learned nothing from last year, did you? You usually don't announce that a key player is done for the season when playoff tickets are about to go on sale.
    So in other words you have no clue and are just making things up. Cool thanks for sharing.

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    Thank you, Tim Duncan! peskypesky's Avatar
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    The real question is can he stop Gasol, Bynum, Odom?
    He's not playing one-on-one you idiot.

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    The real question is can he stop Gasol, Bynum, Odom?
    At the same time?! That's an awful lot to ask isn't it?

    The best thing about it is that it's a numbers game now. Duncan, Gooden, Thomas, Oberto, & Bonner vs. Bynum, Gasol, Odom . . . uh, Diop? & who gives a . Tim got outplayed by Gasol Thursday. That should never happen again. I'm not convinced that Bynum is a big concern yet. He's really only had like one good year out of three. It's getting late to bring him back and expect him to be 100%. He's not going to adapt as easily as a veteran player.

    The main thing for the Spurs is getting Manu back soon, obviously. However, a lot of our issues with the Lakers are psychological. It's more about aggression, intimidation & momentum.

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    Of course Gooden was a good pickup for the spurs. I mean come on look at the spurs bigs other than Duncan. I still don't think this will change the rebound advantage that the Lakers had in last years playoffs and continue to still hold.

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    So in other words you have no clue and are just making things up. Cool thanks for sharing.
    ...or the Lakers are. Thanks for playing.

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    I think I said Diop, when I meant Mbenga. Even Worse.

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    Of course Gooden was a good pickup for the spurs. I mean come on look at the spurs bigs other than Duncan. I still don't think this will change the rebound advantage that the Lakers had in last years playoffs and continue to still hold.
    We're not asking him to totally tip the scale regarding rebounding but to contribute to the battle on the boards which he is proving he can do. Hopefully his efforts will become contagious as well and help to make up for any size advantages the Lakers may have (mainly if Bynum is able to make it back). Regardless, it's nice to see a guy in Silver & Black not only get on the defensive boards, but do so with Yao Ming on the floor.

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    ...or the Lakers are. Thanks for playing.
    We shall see. But I love how spur fans have to pin their playoff hopes on the Lakers being injured.

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    We shall see. But I love how spur fans have to pin their playoff hopes on the Lakers being injured.
    We do? LOL, who are you kidding?

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    ...or the Lakers are. Thanks for playing.
    Almost all reports coming out actually say that he will be back, i havnt seen a single one in a while (month+)saying that he is not coming back. How effective he will be however is yet to be seen, but just his 7' presence on the floor is a contribution in itself, especially with duncan not 100%.

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    Not to turn this thread into anything more than a basketball discussion, BUT:

    I'm a Seahawks fan myself and the Blue & Green don't mesh to well with Purple & Gold. At some point you should lose the avatar or change names....and teams for that matter.

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    We're not asking him to totally tip the scale regarding rebounding but to contribute to the battle on the boards which he is proving he can do. Hopefully his efforts will become contagious as well and help to make up for any size advantages the Lakers may have (mainly if Bynum is able to make it back). Regardless, it's nice to see a guy in Silver & Black not only get on the defensive boards, but do so with Yao Ming on the floor.
    spurs won't beat the Lakers if they get outrebounded, it's as simple as that. I was actually shocked that the Lakers were able to outrebound them last year. Gooden helps but they needed a player more like Camby or somebody like that. But I do agree that if Mason and Hill were the ones being asked for it was to steep.

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    We shall see. But I love how spur fans have to pin their playoff hopes on the Lakers being injured.
    That's absolutely untrue. In a perfect world I would like to see both teams healthy in the WCF. If you are insinuating that Lakers fans aren't concerned about Manu Ginobili's health, you are either a fool or a liar. Your pick.

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    Not to turn this thread into anything more than a basketball discussion, BUT:

    I'm a Seahawks fan myself and the Blue & Green don't mesh to well with Purple & Gold. At some point you should lose the avatar or change names....and teams for that matter.
    Actually silver and black are raider colors and no self respecting Seahawk fan would ever sport raider colors.

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    Camby isn't walking through that door, but we do know that getting Manu back and having Gooden come the postseason should definitely cut down on the oppositions offensive boards so we're not so spent on defense.

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    That's absolutely untrue. In a perfect world I would like to see both teams healthy in the WCF. If you are insinuating that Lakers fans aren't concerned about Manu Ginobili's health, you are either a fool or a liar. Your pick.
    Bigs > Guards

    Which is one of the reasons why I do believe Duncan is a better player than Kobe. Fact is a healthy Bynum is much more of a nightmare matchup to the spurs then a healthy Manu is to the Lakers. This is based on the matchups and weaknesses of our respective teams.

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    Actually silver and black are raider colors and no self respecting Seahawk fan would ever sport raider colors.
    The Raiders are not only in another conference now but they are virtyually non-existent. Besides, that rivalry was before my time as a fan. I started rooting for the Hawks just about the time the NFL did its realignments.

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    The Spurs are gonna be a tough out IMHO. There is no guarantee the Lakers will win the series.

    Still too much depends on the health of their Big 3. It's doubtful Duncan will be 100% by the WCF, he's playing through pain right now and he needs months of rest to really start healing. The Spurs will need him to dominate the paint on both ends. And then Ginobili is trying to come back from another ankle injury. It's a tall order to ask both of those guys to play at the top of their game with the injuries they have.

    The Lakers have their own injuries, but they have shown that they don't NEED Bynum the way the Spurs need Ginobili in order to play at a high level. They can afford to integrate Bynum back in slowly and let him find his way again. If I were a betting man I'd put my money on the Lakers.

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    Manu is a wild card, though. There are no surprises coming from Bynum. You know what to expect. It is merely a problem of execution. You can't prepare for Ginobili.

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    So:

    Ewing, Dream, Robinson > Jordan?

    Fact is a healthy Bynum is much more of a nightmare matchup to the spurs then a healthy Manu is to the Lakers.
    A healthy Manu is >>> a healthy Bynum representative of each teams needs and the impact they both have on said teams.

    This is based on the matchups and weaknesses of our respective teams.
    Bynum takes away from the games of Odom and Gasol while Manu in the lineup takes away from who? Finley, no problem there.

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    The Spurs are gonna be a tough out IMHO. There is no guarantee the Lakers will win the series.

    Still too much depends on the health of their Big 3. It's doubtful Duncan will be 100% by the WCF, he's playing through pain right now and he needs months of rest to really start healing. The Spurs will need him to dominate the paint on both ends. And then Ginobili is trying to come back from another ankle injury. It's a tall order to ask both of those guys to play at the top of their game with the injuries they have.

    The Lakers have their own injuries, but they have shown that they don't NEED Bynum the way the Spurs need Ginobili in order to play at a high level. They can afford to integrate Bynum back in slowly and let him find his way again. If I were a betting man I'd put my money on the Lakers.


    One of the most overrated things i hear concerning the Lakers is their "depth". They have decent players but no one who is a veteran who can handle pressure situations. Basically no one that puts any serious concern to the opposing teams. Farmar? Vujacic? Powell? Ariza?


    Once Manu comes back, the "depth" factor goes the the Spurs.

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    The Raiders are not only in another conference now but they are virtyually non-existent. Besides, that rivalry was before my time as a fan. I started rooting for the Hawks just about the time the NFL did its realignments.
    Ohhhh you're a new fan. I realize that the Seahawks run of success has coincided with their move to the NFC, but come on you should have some more respect for the history of the Seahawks and their old AFC West rivalries and hatreds.

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    Though I do love that nervous Lakers fans are on here at 11:30 PM (central) to talk about the Spurs after a Spurs game.

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