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    Yao is by far the softest guy to ever not back down from a 320lb behemoth named Shaq.

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    A guy that's half a foot taller than everyone else can't pull 10 a game? Yeah dude, awesome rebounder there!

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    A guy that's half a foot taller than everyone else can't pull 10 a game? Yeah dude, awesome rebounder there!
    But, but, tall people can't rebound! George Muresan, Manute Bol, and Shawn Bradley said so!

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    I don't understand how being 7'6" is this disadvantage some of the Houston fans are saying it is.

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    I don't understand how being 7'6" is this disadvantage some of the Houston fans are saying it is.
    It's because most giants in the nba have sucked, so since Yao doesn't suck quite as bad, he's "quite exceptional" for a 7'6'' guy

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    It's because most giants in the nba have sucked, so since Yao doesn't suck quite as bad, he's "quite exceptional" for a 7'6'' guy
    OK....so compared to 7'6" guys with chronic knee problems who can't move properly.....a 7'6" guy blessed with incredible mobility and coordination for his size has played well

    Was that even worth mentioning?

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    Tell me that any other NBA player gets this type of treatment? It's because Yao is so big and skilled that they do this to him.

    Yao Ming angry at NBA refs

    March 5, 2009 · Filed Under General, Houston Rockets
    The Houston Chronicle (Jonathan Feigen) reports (via blog): “You know what, I had two offensive fouls tonight, three last night, two at the Minnesota game … and you can go on,” Yao Ming said. “Every time a defender player is on the ground, even if he just wants to sit down and have a rest, it’s my offensive foul. That’s unfair. “Why? If I’m on the defensive side and I’m in the same position, the foul is on us. They can’t call it two ways. When I try to post up and they have a head on my shoulder and lean on me and lean on my elbow and try to push me out and have the knee and have the two hands, and no call. I know I have 300 pounds. But the same way people push me, maybe it doesn’t affect much, but I have to really, really limit my strength to push back. “I guess I don’t need to worry about a flopper the next game. I don’t think Shaq is that type of player.”

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    Tell me that any other NBA player gets this type of treatment? It's because Yao is so big and skilled that they do this to him.

    Yao Ming angry at NBA refs

    March 5, 2009 · Filed Under General, Houston Rockets
    The Houston Chronicle (Jonathan Feigen) reports (via blog): “You know what, I had two offensive fouls tonight, three last night, two at the Minnesota game … and you can go on,” Yao Ming said. “Every time a defender player is on the ground, even if he just wants to sit down and have a rest, it’s my offensive foul. That’s unfair. “Why? If I’m on the defensive side and I’m in the same position, the foul is on us. They can’t call it two ways. When I try to post up and they have a head on my shoulder and lean on me and lean on my elbow and try to push me out and have the knee and have the two hands, and no call. I know I have 300 pounds. But the same way people push me, maybe it doesn’t affect much, but I have to really, really limit my strength to push back. “I guess I don’t need to worry about a flopper the next game. I don’t think Shaq is that type of player.”
    Shaq got the same treatment. I agree that it sucks, but it's what all good big men that don't play for LA, Boston or Cleveland go through these days.

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    Of course the refs are the only thing holding him back from averaging 50+. Rocket fans making a case for being bigger homers than Kobe fans.

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    True and Van Gundy was right back in 2005

    ALLAS, May 2 - Rockets Coach Jeff Van Gundy on Monday was fined $100,000 by the N.B.A. - the largest fine levied against a league coach - for comments he made Sunday, claiming that referees were directed by the league to target his center Yao Ming and refusing to reveal to N.B.A. investigators the person who told him that information.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/03/sp...all/03nba.html

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    Shaq got the same treatment. I agree that it sucks, but it's what all good big men that don't play for LA, Boston or Cleveland go through these days.
    You really think the nba would be trying to hold it's international star who brings them tons of revenue down because he's 7'6"?


    No.

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    Does Stern give the Los Angeles Lakers preferential treatment? Was the Gasol trade fair? Nuff said.

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    Yeah, the league office is the only thing holding Yao back from becoming a modern day Wilt Chamberlain

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    You really think the nba would be trying to hold it's international star who brings them tons of revenue down because he's 7'6"?


    No.
    I don't think the NBA is making an intentional effort.....I think when someone Yao's size gets hacked with the same force that someone Chris Paul's sized gets hacked with, it doesn't impact Yao as much so it doesn't get called......the notion the league is out to get Yao is ridiculous.

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    uh huh and so is the theory that the league gives the Celtics and Lakers preferential treatment.

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    Yeah, the league office is the only thing holding Yao back from becoming a modern day Wilt Chamberlain

    Obviously.

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    uh huh and so is the theory that the league gives the Celtics and Lakers preferential treatment.

    Why wouldn't they give their chinese megastar preferential treatment?

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    Why wouldn't they give their chinese megastar preferential treatment?
    They do.....letting Chinese people who know nothing about basketball vote on the all star game in and of itself is preferential treatment.

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    Yao has to assert himself if Rockets are to succeed

    by Jerome Solomon, Houston Chronicle , The Houston Chronicle

    Yao Ming hates to lose.

    If you saw him after defeats, you would see that it tears him up.
    Seven years in the NBA, and he never has won a playoff series. It is time for him to take his game to another level. Not his play, necessarily, but his handling of the game and his teammates. He is the Rockets' best player, their leader.

    Everybody in the world knows it, but it is time for Yao to let his teammates know it.

    He tiptoed around Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley. He deferred to Tracy McGrady.

    Now it is time for Yao to Americanize his game and let his teammates know what's up.

    As complex as the workings of a Basketball team are, it is a simple game. At times, the Rockets make it too difficult. Basically, the Rockets' offense should be as simple as 1-2-3.

    1. His name is Yao.
    2. Give him the ball.
    3. Give him the ball.

    Don't tell us what defenses are taking away. Don't tell us double-teams are coming from the back side on entry passes. Don't tell us about fronting in the post.

    Too often the Rockets show a weakness in heart and commitment that good teams just don't show.

    That should worry Rockets fans who dream of the team having playoff success this season.

    Wednesday night - with the defending Western Conference champion Los Angeles Lakers in town - presented them a playoff-type atmosphere, and the Rockets played playoff-type basketball. They lost.

    (Hey, that's what they do in the playoffs isn't it? It's been a dozen years since Rockets fans cheered for their team in the second round, meaning there is a generation of Rockets fans growing up thinking this franchise never wins.)

    If the Rockets make a concerted effort to get Yao the ball, they are a better team. Period. If they do that, playoff success could be had.

    Is Yao a superstar or what?
    Well, the NBA statistics show 59 players who take more shots per game than Yao averages.

    He took only three shots in the second half of a playoff-type game against the Lakers after making all six of his shots in the first half.

    That's ridiculous.
    Team fails him

    What, you think Shane "1-for-something" Battier can lead a team to a playoff series victory? (If so, you better turn off The Big Bang Theory, stop drinking that funny-tasting juice Daryl Morey is serving, and start watching the games.)

    If the Rockets do what they so often do in losses - fail to feed the big man - their playoff stay will be short.

    They talk about getting Yao the ball, then Battier carelessly rolls it to him in the post. Turnover.

    They say everything goes through Yao, then Aaron Brooks casually lofts a pass to him that travels so slow a defender could have started at the George R. Brown and gotten to Toyota Center in time to steal it.

    Turnover.

    You learn how to feed the post in bitty basketball. The Rockets had a season-high 23 turnovers against Los Angeles - which isn't a defensive machine - and perhaps a third of them involved poor attempts to get Yao the ball.

    They claim that as Yao goes so go the Rockets, yet Ron Artest threw up eight 3-pointers (he missed them all), and his teammates fired up 20 more on a night they weren't making many (five).

    How many times are we going to hear excuses for why the team could not get the ball to that tall dude?

    It is time Yao tells his teammates a thing or three.
    Clearly, Rick Adelman isn't getting the point across.

    During one game at the Olympics, a guard on the Chinese team, who couldn't start at Yates, threw some Battier-like mess into the post. It wasn't stolen, just knocked out of bounds, and Yao shouted at his teammate.

    Given my limited Chinese - and considering I was watching this game on Chinese television, so I had to lip-read (and I don't lip-read) - this translation might be a bit off. But I believe he said: "You see this huge hand? Throw it here."

    "Hey, Shane, you see this huge hand?"

    In another game, a Chinese teammate launched a trey just as Yao had pinned a defender on the low block. Yao gave him a dirty look and said something.

    Again, I don't habla or parlez-vous Chinese, but I think he said, "Hey, give me the darn ball." One would think Yao wouldn't have to do that in the NBA, but all the great scoring big men have had to do it.
    If only we had a recording of some of the things Hakeem Olajuwon said to Sam Cassell during games. Or what Moses Malone said to put Calvin Murphy in check. It's about time for Yao to be like Hakeem and Moses. The Rockets' playoff hopes might depend on it.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9...are-to-succeed

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    I don't understand how being 7'6" is this disadvantage some of the Houston fans are saying it is.
    ffs...it's not his height i am saying is a disadvantage. i am saying his lack of agility and athleticism that is the disadvantage. his short arms also make his height not as advantageous as it should be since most guys in the NBA have a wingspan that is longer than their height. yao has kevin willis syndrome.

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    But, but, tall people can't rebound! George Muresan, Manute Bol, and Shawn Bradley said so!
    name me anyone over 7'2 who was as good of a rebounder as yao.

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    A guy that's half a foot taller than everyone else can't pull 10 a game? Yeah dude, awesome rebounder there!
    good call...why don't you look up the greatest rebounders in nba history.

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    name me anyone over 7'2 who was as good of a rebounder as yao.
    There isn't many people in this world over 7'2. actually, anything over 6'5 is considered pretty abnormal. The % of people who are 7 footers is microscopic. Just because the past giants in the nba have sucked doesn't mean that height isn't an advantage in rebounding. How many league rebounding les have been won by PG's? If you're trying to prove that Yao isn't quite as re ed than those other giants, then you've already won.

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    There isn't many people in this world over 7'2. actually, anything over 6'5 is considered pretty abnormal. The % of people who are 7 footers is microscopic. Just because the past giants in the nba have sucked doesn't mean that height isn't an advantage in rebounding. How many league rebounding les have been won by PG's?
    obviously none but you and i both know height isn't the only factor in rebounding. most of the great rebounders have been 6'10 and under.

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    obviously none but you and i both know height isn't the only factor in rebounding. most of the great rebounders have been 6'10 and under.
    Of course a guy who's not quite 7 feet tall, but has a great nose for the ball and good quickness can run down/grab alot of rebounds. But all things created equal and the ball is up in the air in the final moments of the game, both players have equal positioning, who do you think is gonna get the rebound? Height matters man, or nba players wouldn't be so tall. Saying Yao's height isn't working to his advantage is ridiculous. In fact, if Yao were 6'10 he wouldn't be in the NBA.

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