Kobe = Jordan

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lol, I get called a Kobe hater on Laker forums.

My guess there is that unless you're a Kobe apologist you get called a Kobe hater on LA boards.....similar to Steve Nash and Suns message boards.

[Trimble87]

Kobe will be Jordan when he leads the Lakers to another threepeat... and even if he does hes still not Jordan.

Fact: Shaq is a much much much better two man then Pippen. In fact he isnt even a two man. he was the leader of the 3peat lakers teams.

Fact: The late 80's to early 90s pitted Jordan against some of the fiercest compe ion in the history of the NBA. Going up against the Hakeems, Birds, Malones, Barkleys, Paytons, Stocktons, Robinsons etc etc etc of the world. The compe ion was vastly superior to what we have now, and if he had not retired for two years the bulls would have won 8 les in a row.

Kobe is a great player, one of the all time greats. But comparing him to jordan is just wrong.

A good stat line != Jordan.

[samikeyp]

Never.

There will never, ever be another Jordan. That is not a bad thing though.

IMO, if he continues on his path, there will never be another Kobe either.

[samikeyp]

Kobe is the closest thing to MJ the league has seen since his retirement and likely the closest thing we will see for some time.

He truly is an incredible once in a generation type of player. He transcends the game in a way that really nobody outside of Tim Duncan does in the NBA.

agreed.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wade is a lot more like Jordan than Kobe......the way they Wade plays is more Jordan-esk, plus he's actually won a finals MVP and a championship as the best player on his team.

[Cry Havoc]

Stupid thread is stupid. I've already destroyed Kobe homers a number of times on this board. No desire to do it again.

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Wade is a lot more like Jordan than Kobe......the way they Wade plays is more Jordan-esk, plus he's actually won a finals MVP and a championship as the best player on his team.

ive always agreed that wade plays much more like jordan than kobe. constantly agressive and fearless. doesnt settle much for jumpers.

[sook]

Wade is a lot more like Jordan than Kobe......the way they Wade plays is more Jordan-esk, plus he's actually won a finals MVP and a championship as the best player on his team.

Wade is the ultimate team player. When he scores a lot and Kobe scores a lot there is a big difference. Wade plays within the offense and his teammates have a better chance to get involved. Maybe its just me but he doesn't look like a ballhog like Kobe did in 05-06. Don't get me wrong, that year was legendary for Kobe but it looked like he was just gonna take as many shots he wanted every game

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Fact: The late 80's to early 90s pitted Jordan against some of the fiercest compe ion in the history of the NBA. Going up against the Hakeems, Birds, Malones, Barkleys, Paytons, Stocktons, Robinsons etc etc etc of the world. The compe ion was vastly superior to what we have now, and if he had not retired for two years the bulls would have won 8 les in a row.

Come on... lets not kid ourselves... compe ion today is damn good, arguably better than it was back then. There is/has been Lebron, Wade, Duncan, Shaq, Dirk, Garnett, Nash, Paul, Pierce, Howard, Iverson, Williams, Parker, Ginobili, etc...

The 80's is soooo overrated, simply due to nostalgia. Today's league is just as compe ive, if not more than it was in the 80s. The only difference is that more teams actually play defense these days, and that there was more heated rivalries back then because they were allowed to get away with they cant get away with today. Imagine if you could clothesline a player the way Kurt Rambis got hit, and get away with nothing more than a personal foul? Could you imagine how heated and crazy rivalries like Lakers/Kings, Lakers/Spurs, Spurs/Mavs, Suns/Lakers, Mavs/Suns, Cavs/Wizards, Cavs/Pistons, Pistons/Heat, etc... could have been?

Fact is, we have 3 players that could all possibly go down among the 5 best players in NBA history (Lebron, Kobe, Wade), arguably the most dominant center ever (Shaq), the best PF ever (Duncan), and other GREAT players like Dirk, Nash, and CP3, who could go down as top 5, maybe top 3 all-time at their positions, surpassing many 80s players, yet the compe ion in the 80s greatly surpasses today's era??? GTFO.

[ChickHearnMic]

Trying to get that Kobe Number,One Over Jordan

[manufor3]

mj is the greatest player in the history of the nba.
1. mj
2. wilt
3. the other mj
4. kobe
5. tim
6. larry legend

[Spursfan092120]

[samikeyp]

Come on... lets not kid ourselves... compe ion today is damn good, arguably better than it was back then. There is/has been Lebron, Wade, Duncan, Shaq, Dirk, Garnett, Nash, Paul, Pierce, Howard, Iverson, Williams, Parker, Ginobili, etc...

The 80's is soooo overrated, simply due to nostalgia. Today's league is just as compe ive, if not more than it was in the 80s. The only difference is that more teams actually play defense these days, and that there was more heated rivalries back then because they were allowed to get away with they cant get away with today. Imagine if you could clothesline a player the way Kurt Rambis got hit, and get away with nothing more than a personal foul? Could you imagine how heated and crazy rivalries like Lakers/Kings, Lakers/Spurs, Spurs/Mavs, Suns/Lakers, Mavs/Suns, Cavs/Wizards, Cavs/Pistons, Pistons/Heat, etc... could have been?

Fact is, we have 3 players that could all possibly go down among the 5 best players in NBA history (Lebron, Kobe, Wade), arguably the most dominant center ever (Shaq), the best PF ever (Duncan), and other GREAT players like Dirk, Nash, and CP3, who could go down as top 5, maybe top 3 all-time at their positions, surpassing many 80s players, yet the compe ion in the 80s greatly surpasses today's era??? GTFO.

While there is a bit of nostalgia for the NBA in the 80's, it was anything but overrated. As someone who has seen both eras, I can tell you that there was much better team basketball played back then. I am not knocking today's NBA but the 80's were anything but overrated. Two different eras really. To say that the 80's NBA was the be all end all of NBA basketball would be foolish, to dismiss the quality as simply nostalgia would be equally foolish.

[Spursfan092120]

While there is a bit of nostalgia for the NBA in the 80's, it was anything but overrated. As someone who has seen both eras, I can tell you that there was much better team basketball played back then. I am not knocking today's NBA but the 80's were anything but overrated. Two different eras really. To say that the 80's NBA was the be all end all of NBA basketball would be foolish, to dismiss the quality as simply nostalgia would be equally foolish.

Not to mention that in today's basketball, the 2 guard is helped out a lot with the rules. The 2 guard is almost baby fed nowadays. Back then, the big man was the one who was tended to. It was harder to be a talented 2 guard back then than it is today.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

mj is the greatest player in the history of the nba.
1. mj
2. wilt
3. the other mj
4. kobe
5. tim
6. larry legend

That might be the dumbest list ever. How the is Kobe ahead of Tim Duncan, and how the is Shaq's sidekick (Kobe) on the list when Shaq isn't on it?

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While there is a bit of nostalgia for the NBA in the 80's, it was anything but overrated. As someone who has seen both eras, I can tell you that there was much better team basketball played back then. I am not knocking today's NBA but the 80's were anything but overrated. Two different eras really. To say that the 80's NBA was the be all end all of NBA basketball would be foolish, to dismiss the quality as simply nostalgia would be equally foolish.

When I say overrated, I mean it gets overrated by idiots like the person whom I was replying to, in saying that today's compe ion isnt even close to 80s compe ion, when its as far from the truth as it gets.

[scanry]

That might be the dumbest list ever. How the is Kobe ahead of Tim Duncan, and how the is Shaq's sidekick (Kobe) on the list when Shaq isn't on it?

Some Spurs fans don't think the NBA existed before the 80's.

Jerry West, Bill Russell & Kareem for some reason always seem to get lost in translation.

BTW Larry Legend is overrated...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Some Spurs fans don't think the NBA existed before the 80's.

Jerry West, Bill Russell & Kareem for some reason always seem to get lost in translation.

BTW Larry Legend is overrated...

Or Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylor

[dirk4mvp]

Some Spurs fans don't think the NBA existed before the 80's.

Jerry West, Bill Russell & Kareem for some reason always seem to get lost in translation.

BTW Larry Legend is overrated...

If anybody's overrated, it's Bill Russell.

[sook]

If anybody's overrated, it's Bill Russell.

have to agree with you there

[scanry]

If anybody's overrated, it's Bill Russell.

So a 5 time NBA MVP is overrated? He probably would've won atleast 8-11 Finals MVP's.

How the is he overrated???

[dirk4mvp]

Congrats to him and his rec league achievements.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Congrats to him and his rec league achievements.

That's the best way to sum it up. Russell played in like an 8 team league with white guys 5 inches shorter than him at center, anything less than the dominating career he had would have been a disappointment.

[Ghazi]

Wade is a lot more like Jordan than Kobe......the way they Wade plays is more Jordan-esk, plus he's actually won a finals MVP and a championship as the best player on his team.

No he hasn't. Quit being dumb. I HATE YOU!!11

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

BELIEVE!!!!!!!