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    now is the time for all the noobies/nostalgic delusionites to accept that technically, Kobe = Jordan. period. this is the best scorer in the league by far, he is complete as , great passer, never gives up on defense as a guard and BLOCKS SHOTS, does exactly what his team needs at any given time, hits more DAGGER shots/clutch baskets than anyone, is unguardable and can will hismteam to victory better than ANYONE. Boston last year guarded him better than ive seen anyone guard him, and he lost because his team had too many non-black players i key roles while Boston had nothing but big strong athletic guys at every position.

    but if they meet again in the Finals LA will RAPE them. i hope the Spurs have enough to beat them and they certainly can, but seriously its time for all these JORDAN = GOD people to accept that Kobe is all that Jordan was.
    naw, bruh!!

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    Wade is a lot more like Jordan than Kobe......the way they Wade plays is more Jordan-esk, plus he's actually won a finals MVP and a championship as the best player on his team.

    WOW!!!! Wade is like MJ because he has won one championship and one finals MVP. Are you serious!!!!!!! Kobe could easily have taken an MVP in the Three-peat team. They gave those to Shaq.

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    WOW!!!! Wade is like MJ because he has won one championship and one finals MVP. Are you serious!!!!!!! Kobe could easily have taken an MVP in the Three-peat team. They gave those to Shaq.

    lol he's tried to do that twice....

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    MJ won six les with ty ass players around him, Kobe won 3 only because of shaq....so therefore MJ is better

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    That's a really nice picture.

    Pistons are ing dumb to trade away Billups...

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    MJ won six les with ty ass players around him, Kobe won 3 only because of shaq....so therefore MJ is better
    If you're going to discount Kobe's accomplishment because of Shaq (which is ridiculous in itself. Shaq doesn't win those les without Kobe) lets look at MJ with ty ass players as you say and when he won a le. It took him 7 years in the league before he won his first le. Kobe is presently in his 5th season leading the lakers. I'm just saying...

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    If you're going to discount Kobe's accomplishment because of Shaq (which is ridiculous in itself. Shaq doesn't win those les without Kobe) lets look at MJ with ty ass players as you say and when he won a le. It took him 7 years in the league before he won his first le. Kobe is presently in his 5th season leading the lakers. I'm just saying...

    Atleast shaq proved he can win with another all star.

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    Atleast shaq proved he can win with another all star.
    Kobe has a good chance to prove that as well. Let's face it, Shaq had another superstar with him, not just another All Star.

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    Atleast shaq proved he can win with another all star.
    Guy, D-Wade is arguably the best player in the game today....

    Let's just say that without D-Wade, the Mavs would've swept the Heat.

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    now is the time for all the noobies/nostalgic delusionites to accept that technically, Kobe = Jordan. period. this is the best scorer in the league by far, he is complete as , great passer, never gives up on defense as a guard and BLOCKS SHOTS, does exactly what his team needs at any given time, hits more DAGGER shots/clutch baskets than anyone, is unguardable and can will hismteam to victory better than ANYONE. Boston last year guarded him better than ive seen anyone guard him, and he lost because his team had too many non-black players i key roles while Boston had nothing but big strong athletic guys at every position.
    you have to say it, thats damn good reasoning.

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    As much as I dislike Kobe, I definitely think he is very close to Jordan. I would trade Duncan and Parker for Kobe anytime.

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    I still think it's funny that Medvedenko listed "poise" as one of Kobe's qualities, forgetting how he sat & pouted and quit on his team in game 7 against the Suns in 2006.

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    jordan is probably why i got into basketball in the first place. hes by far my favorite player and from time to time i watch his videos, read his quotes for inspiration or motivation. However im not silly enough to engage in a long battles over the internet so i'll just let these videos do the talking.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xJJNUkrdyQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWvxijHNWB4

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    Jordan was a great player, no doubt but when he came into the league he hogged the ball more than Kobe. He did not win until Phil Jackson toned down his game. He befriended all of the tough players in the league so they would take it easy on him. Kobe doesn't give a . Bring it!

    I have to say although I recognize Jordan's game as the best, he and the Bulls were never one of my favorites.

    Lakers fans are different than a lot of WC teams fans. If we don't win, we pull for the Western Conference no matter who's playing. So all of those years that the Bulls won, I was pulling for the other team and despised them.

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    Jordan was a great player, no doubt but when he came into the league he hogged the ball more than Kobe. He did not win until Phil Jackson toned down his game. He befriended all of the tough players in the league so they would take it easy on him. Kobe doesn't give a . Bring it!

    I have to say although I recognize Jordan's game as the best, he and the Bulls were never one of my favorites.

    Lakers fans are different than a lot of WC teams fans. If we don't win, we pull for the Western Conference no matter who's playing. So all of those years that the Bulls won, I was pulling for the other team and despised them.
    Yup I agree....

    Oh one last point. I love the comparison between MJ's hey day and all of the great players he played against when he won those les. All of the great big men Hakeem, Ewing, Drob, Shaq, Kemp, Brad D from cleveland etc, Zo, Barkley and Malone....not one of those guys ever guarded MJ or were guarded by MJ and MJ's teams still percevered. Maybe we should annoint Luc Longley, Bill Wenington, and Rodman as the real MVPs..............because when it comes down to talent and level of play....show the me the great 2 guards and 3 SF's that were awesome during his reign......yup, I'll give you Drexler....John Starks, Dumars ?, Mullin, Hornacek, Craig Ehlo.....yup.

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    not close, but the closet thing to him.
    well said

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    Yup I agree....

    Oh one last point. I love the comparison between MJ's hey day and all of the great players he played against when he won those les. All of the great big men Hakeem, Ewing, Drob, Shaq, Kemp, Brad D from cleveland etc, Zo, Barkley and Malone....not one of those guys ever guarded MJ or were guarded by MJ and MJ's teams still percevered. Maybe we should annoint Luc Longley, Bill Wenington, and Rodman as the real MVPs..............because when it comes down to talent and level of play....show the me the great 2 guards and 3 SF's that were awesome during his reign......yup, I'll give you Drexler....John Starks, Dumars ?, Mullin, Hornacek, Craig Ehlo.....yup.
    how poised was kobe in this game?

    http://www.nba.com/games/20060506/LALPHX/recap.html

    But in a puzzling disappearing act, Bryant deferred to his teammates in the second half Saturday, taking just three shots and scoring one point on a technical free throw.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ilydime-060507

    Strangely, though, Bryant's will to keep shooting didn't last much longer, bringing a muted close to his prolific season. The Ocho attempted just three shots in the second half after ringing up 23 points in the first, in what looked su iously like a surrender.

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    Inthe land of audiophiles angelbelow's Avatar
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    Jordan was a great player, no doubt but when he came into the league he hogged the ball more than Kobe. He did not win until Phil Jackson toned down his game. He befriended all of the tough players in the league so they would take it easy on him. Kobe doesn't give a . Bring it!

    I have to say although I recognize Jordan's game as the best, he and the Bulls were never one of my favorites.

    Lakers fans are different than a lot of WC teams fans. If we don't win, we pull for the Western Conference no matter who's playing. So all of those years that the Bulls won, I was pulling for the other team and despised them.
    really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xJJNUkrdyQ

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    Yup I agree....

    Oh one last point. I love the comparison between MJ's hey day and all of the great players he played against when he won those les. All of the great big men Hakeem, Ewing, Drob, Shaq, Kemp, Brad D from cleveland etc, Zo, Barkley and Malone....not one of those guys ever guarded MJ or were guarded by MJ and MJ's teams still percevered. Maybe we should annoint Luc Longley, Bill Wenington, and Rodman as the real MVPs..............because when it comes down to talent and level of play....show the me the great 2 guards and 3 SF's that were awesome during his reign......yup, I'll give you Drexler....John Starks, Dumars ?, Mullin, Hornacek, Craig Ehlo.....yup.
    And when the Lakers were winning les who were the "great" 2 guards Kobe was facing in the playoffs? Doug Christie? 6'3 midget Antonio Daniels on the Spurs? Cuttino Mobley? When did Kobe face ONE elite 2 guard in the playoffs during those le runs? He didn't because they were all battling it out in the Eastern Conference. T-Mac, Vince, Ray Allen, Iverson, and Paul Pierce. Kobe not only played non-all star guards in the West playoffs he had Shaq demanding the defensive attention which allowed him to go one on one against those bums.

    Kobe had a cakewalk in the West playoffs until he hit the Finals where the only true compe ion he faced was an over the hill Reggie Miller and Iverson who was guarded mostly by Tyronn Lue and Fisher.

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    Lol, Jordan won all his accolades when defense was so tight that people will hold on to you, tug at your shirt, hand check and knee you frequently. The hard fouls then are flagrant fouls now, the defensive bad boys then are now non existent. The game has given so much leeway to offense that too many players appear to be so great. Put Kobe in Jordan's era and let us see him do what MJ did.

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    Lol, Jordan won all his accolades when defense was so tight that people will hold on to you, tug at your shirt, hand check and knee you frequently. The hard fouls then are flagrant fouls now, the defensive bad boys then are now non existent. The game has given so much leeway to offense that too many players appear to be so great. Put Kobe in Jordan's era and let us see him do what MJ did.
    I can tell you must be a young piece of pussy. The reason the Jordan Rules were developed was because nobody could breathe on his ass or he got two free throws. The Pistons were like " it, when we hit him, we're gonna make it count, cuz the mutha a is goin' to the line anyways...so make his ass pay to get there" Get it?

    Anybody that knows even a little bit about Jordan's career knows that you couldn't even look at him too hard or he shot two. And he got away with more crab dribbles (lmao) and physicality than most players. Ask Bryon Russell who, who got pushed halfway back to Long Beach State so MJ could hit one of the coldest daggers in league history.

    Some of you cats have it so backwards that it's a in joke. The Pistons are the exception to the rule. They didn't play that panzie with MJ, but if you think that's how the league was back in the day, you muhfuggas must be smokin'. The game was free-flowing back then too, it's just that old school players ALWAYS act like they had it harder in their time. Sheeit, it was nothin' to see 240 points on the board back then.

    Do ya research!

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    Mother in Laker fans live in a fantasy (in Kobe's i might add). That is some defense...

    Seriously Jordan is underrated.

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