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    Then they need to use as you would say "smart business" like Wal-Mart so they don't HAVE to charge $3.50 for a bottle of water. No?
    Does HEB and Wal-Mart not have to pay for the cost of the water, the checker, benefits for said worker, well maybe not for Wal-Mart, and on and on?
    So they need to produce their own water now?

    Thats what they would HAVE to do. Right now, they have water suppliers, that need to make money on THEIR water, so they charge X, then you sell water for Y profit, and to make that profit you have to take into account the costs that go into it.

    I gaurantee you they have tried to find a way to make their concessions cheaper, but thats the cost.

    Your comparing apples and oranges.

    That being said, are they badly managed? I can't objectively say, I don't have their books in front of me and say one way or the other.

    What I can say is, their business is MOSTLY amusement rides and thats one of the HUGE reasons people go there.

    The rides they manage are gigantic, expensive and costly.

    The insurance, cleaning and maintence supplies and worker's costs that go into it are astronomical.

    Honestly people would be SHOCKED at how much it costs to manage said park. People complain about the gate price being 40 dollars, when in fact, to help make money they should probobly be charging 80.

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    So they need to produce their own water now?

    Thats what they would HAVE to do. Right now, they have water suppliers, that need to make money on THEIR water, so they charge X, then you sell water for Y profit, and to make that profit you have to take into account the costs that go into it.

    I gaurantee you they have tried to find a way to make their concessions cheaper, but thats the cost.

    Your comparing apples and oranges.

    That being said, are they badly managed? I can't objectively say, I don't have their books in front of me and say one way or the other.

    What I can say is, their business is MOSTLY amusement rides and thats one of the HUGE reasons people go there.

    The rides they manage are gigantic, expensive and costly.

    The insurance, cleaning and maintence supplies and worker's costs that go into it are astronomical.

    Honestly people would be SHOCKED at how much it costs to manage said park. People complain about the gate price being 40 dollars, when in fact, to help make money they should probobly be charging 80.
    Well said. I know I've wondered myself walking through the park how much it costs just in utilities alone. But as a consumer there is no way I'll pay those high prices for food. Yeah, I'll get a funnel cake, with a coupon of course, and a soda, with a $3 off coupon for the bottle and 99 cent refills for the year. I know that is how they make the majority of their money but I just won't pay those prices.

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    if they wanna solve there

    sell stuff below fkn costs and keep those assets in american hands

    fkn dumb selling their souls to the devils outside america.

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    Well said. I know I've wondered myself walking through the park how much it costs just in utilities alone. But as a consumer there is no way I'll pay those high prices for food. Yeah, I'll get a funnel cake, with a coupon of course, and a soda, with a $3 off coupon for the bottle and 99 cent refills for the year. I know that is how they make the majority of their money but I just won't pay those prices.

    That's fine, just try and not scratch your head when you drive by the park and its empty.

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    if they wanna solve there

    sell stuff below fkn costs and keep those assets in american hands

    fkn dumb selling their souls to the devils outside america.

    Yeah thats sound business advice.

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    the one thing that happens if you lower prices too much then the riffraff starts to go. just like the DOLLAR CINEMAS and SPLASHTOWN... regular folks shy away.

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    the one thing that happens if you lower prices too much then the riffraff starts to go. just like the DOLLAR CINEMAS and SPLASHTOWN... regular folks shy away.
    Not really.

    If you have good amounts of security then you can scare em off.

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    Not really.

    If you have good amounts of security then you can scare em off.
    Wouldn't more security guards cost more money?

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    Wouldn't more security guards cost more money?
    pay some kent minimum wage and health insurance, wouldnt they want the job during these times? instead of paying them what the law states ?

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    Wouldn't more security guards cost more money?
    It would.

    But were not talking doubleing or tripling your security.

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    pay some kent minimum wage and health insurance, wouldnt they want the job during these times? instead of paying them what the law states ?
    You gotta have better security than that.

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    the one thing that happens if you lower prices too much then the riffraff starts to go. just like the DOLLAR CINEMAS and SPLASHTOWN... regular folks shy away.
    Who do you consider "regular folks"?

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    the one thing that happens if you lower prices too much then the riffraff starts to go. just like the DOLLAR CINEMAS and SPLASHTOWN... regular folks shy away.
    and yet those two en ies have been in business for years.....

    go figure

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    Because no one is buying food.


    Thats how they make money, they make a profit on food, concessions and other items.

    People stop buying that, business's net goes down.

    I'm not saying its all your fault, but, when you complain about the "3.50" water your thinking that the company just makes a straight profit on said water.

    You have to look at the cost of behind the water, the person selling the water, the workman's comp for the person selling the water, the cost of buying the water, and on and on and on. Hence why the water is 3.50.
    ...and then you see senior management's paycheck, house(s), and cars. Then you truly see where your 3.50 water REALLY goes.

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    I'm thinking the concessions are just a small part of it.

    If they wanted to sell water for $2 a bottle, they would do just fine. In fact, maybe Chalupa decides paying $2 at the park is actually more reasonable than having to lug in an extra 6 pack.

    I think the main killers for the amusement park are the ride maintenenance issues and the shows. I'm betting it's not cheap to get even semi-talented singers/musicians/acrobats/etc......

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    Nah, $2 is still too much. Most of the time we take our Six Flags bottle and just fill it with water and ask for ice and since I carry the backpack all day long I ain't lugging no six-pack.

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    Who do you consider "regular folks"?
    non-gangbangers

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    and yet those two en ies have been in business for years.....

    go figure
    Actually, Dollar Cinemas are almost dead, at least in SA.

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    Yeah thats sound business advice.
    From what it sounds like, it's costing them $3.50 for water (according to you, though that just doesn't sound right) for water that they aren't selling. So that's a what, net $3.25 loss on every bottle of water that's just sitting there at the the end of the day (again, your math)?

    I simply can't AFFORD to buy concessions every time I go to 6 Flags. It makes no sense to me, especially if I have a season pass and can just pop in and out any time I feel like it.

    But every time I go, with the exception of early in the work week, I see the rides and coasters jammed. Even the concessions are always packed with people, especially if it's hot out.

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    Because no one is buying food.

    Thats how they make money, they make a profit on food, concessions and other items.

    People stop buying that, business's net goes down.
    Schlitterbahn has always allowed you to bring your own food and drinks into the park and they seem to have done more than fine. Some people buy food there but many picnic.

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    I'm betting it's not cheap to get even semi-talented singers/musicians/acrobats/etc......
    Their pay is actually pretty low.

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    Schlitterbahn has always allowed you to bring your own food and drinks into the park and they seem to have done more than fine. Some people buy food there but many picnic.
    It costs alot less to upkeep slides and water, than it does multi million dollar amusement rides.

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    Actually, Dollar Cinemas are almost dead, at least in SA.
    Skidmark on 410/Evers looks like it is still going pretty good, basically turning a profit on concessions alone.

    I havent heard of them getting ready to close down...... have you?

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    Their pay is actually pretty low.
    link?

    how little is Colbie Caillat getting paid for her "free" performance in June?

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    Some friends are in town and they went to Six Flags yesterday, they had a good time. I told them "good, cause it might not be around next year".

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