Thanks for that advice, Pope

[angel_luv]

Angel, regardless of what you are made to believe, the entire world is not christian. There are other cultures and religions. And, there are also people that are areligious.

For these people, absitinence will do absolutely nothing. Condoms, however, can save thier lives.

Maybe I misunderstood.

Are you saying that condoms fully protect people from aids?

That is not a risk I am willing to take, personally.

I think the Pope is right in attempting to raise spiritual awareness across the board. Keep preaching abstinence.
A condom may be better than nothing, but it is by no means ideal, in my opinion.

I believe God reserves sex for a husband and wife not only for the couples pleasure but also for both parties' protection.


I realize that people get aids from things outside their control- such as dirty needles and rape/molestation.
But in those situations, responsible condom use is not something that comes into consideration.

[Taco]

Abstinence IS the best prevention. BTW I'm HORNY

Fixed

[Blake]

Maybe I misunderstood.

Are you saying that condoms fully protect people from aids?

I dont think anyone said that.

That is not a risk I am willing to take, personally.

we know

I think the Pope is right in attempting to raise spiritual awareness across the board. Keep preaching abstinence.
A condom may be better than nothing, but it is by no means ideal, in my opinion.

The Pope is not attempting to raise spiritual awareness. He is saying that distributing condoms actually makes matters worse.

I believe God reserves sex for a husband and wife not only for the couples pleasure but also for both parties' protection.


I realize that people get aids from things outside their control- such as dirty needles and rape/molestation.
But in those situations, responsible condom use is not something that comes into consideration.

So if you try to explain the necessity of abstinence to adult Africans and they tell you "no" to your face, will you just let them walk away and do their unprotected thing, or will you say "well, at least use a condom"....?

[Richard Cranium]

When in heat cover your meat.

[peewee's lovechild]

Maybe I misunderstood.

Are you saying that condoms fully protect people from aids?

That is not a risk I am willing to take, personally.

I think the Pope is right in attempting to raise spiritual awareness across the board. Keep preaching abstinence.
A condom may be better than nothing, but it is by no means ideal, in my opinion.

I believe God reserves sex for a husband and wife not only for the couples pleasure but also for both parties' protection.


I realize that people get aids from things outside their control- such as dirty needles and rape/molestation.
But in those situations, responsible condom use is not something that comes into consideration.

You're not fully understanding.

You're seeing things from a christian point of view. The whole world is not christian. Africa is a continent with diverging religious points of view, as well as aboriginal points of view.

Not everyone views and treats sex in a christian point of view.

Now, abstinence maybe right for you, because you have chosen to live in accordance to your spiritual beliefs. But, there are millions of others who do not share your point of view. And, these people chose to have sex on a regular basis.

These people need to be given the option to use condoms. They don't need to hear about abstinence because that does not concur with thier way of life.

And, since AIDS is extremely prevalent in their regions, condoms are essential to help stop the spread of AIDS.

Rape, incest, drug use . . . all of that is a different matter. We're talking about some old fart who dresses up like Liberace telling these people that condoms won't help them. In fact, he's telling them that it will make things worse.

And, that is just flat out wrong.

[angel_luv]

The Pope is not attempting to raise spiritual awareness. He is saying that distributing condoms actually makes matters worse.

If the effort only consist of/ ends with condom distribution, then I agree with the Pope.

So if you try to explain the necessity of abstinence to adult Africans and they tell you "no" to your face, will you just let them walk away and do their unprotected thing, or will you say "well, at least use a condom"....?

I would give them condoms rather than see disease spread, but I would continue my efforts to educate them about abstinence.

I like the way Salvation army handle things with their giving meals to hungry people.
They give needy people food, but they also preach to them every time too.

[Mixability]

It doesn't matter, we're all going to .

[angel_luv]

It doesn't matter, we're all going to .

Not if God has His way.

You're all on His Most Wanted in Heaven list.

[Mixability]

Not if God has His way.

You're all on His Most Wanted in Heaven list.

Oh shut the F up.

I'm sure God will send you straight down along with the rest of us.

You wanna know why?

Because I'm sure even the Almighty thinks you're annoying as F&@#!

[Blake]

If the effort only consist of/ ends with condom distribution, then I agree with the Pope.

who said that the effort was strictly condom distribution?

You didn't really read the article.

You also have no clue about what the non profit orgs do over there.

I would give them condoms rather than see disease spread, but I would continue my efforts to educate them about abstinence.

You didn't really read the article.

You also have no clue about what the non profit orgs do over there.

I like the way Salvation army handle things with their giving meals to hungry people.
They give needy people food, but they also preach to them every time too.

You didn't really read the article.

You also have no clue about what the non profit orgs do over there.

[Blake]

Not if God has His way.

You're all on His Most Wanted in Heaven list.

not the anti-christ, Obama.

God has already preordained his fate in a burning pit for eternity, so not even God can have God's way.

That sucks.

[angel_luv]

Oh shut up.

I'm sure God will send you straight down along with the rest of us.

You wanna know why?

Because I'm sure even the Almighty thinks you're annoying as F&@#!

Thanks for that, Friend.

[angel_luv]

who said that the effort was strictly condom distribution?
You didn't really read the article.
You also have no clue about what the non profit orgs do over there.
You didn't really read the article.
You also have no clue about what the non profit orgs do over there.
You didn't really read the article.
You also have no clue about what the non profit orgs do over there.

I thought we were discussing the profitability of condoms, a discussion inspired by the Pope article but not restricted to it.

Also, when did I ever speak against non profit orgs?
If anything I showed my appreciation for such organizations with my compliments to the Salvation Army.

[Mixability]

Based on this and your view on your abortion thread, Angel, I hereby donate my entire vbookie to the "Get Bo a vasectomy" fund.

[angel_luv]

Based on this and your view on your abortion thread, Angel, I hereby donate my entire vbookie to the "Get Bo a vasectomy" fund.

Okay, but you should know I hope to adopt kids as well as have them myself.
I might be a foster parent too.

What now. Buddy? You are fresh out of funds.

[Mixability]

Okay, but you should know I hope to adopt kids as well as have them myself.
I might be a foster parent too.

What now. Buddy? You are fresh out of funds.

Hopefully the kids without your genes will have the ability to also not share your views.

[Ginobilly]

abstinence could also mean having better sex education programs in Africa.
I'm not married, but I'm having sexual relations with my girlfriend. Before we engaged in sexual contact, we both agreed to take STD screens at a clinic.
Man, I couldn't wait to smash and eat that pussy and get my sucked. I came back negative for everything and the rest is history. Of all my 23 years of life, I've had the chance to hot girls at parties, protected/unprotected sex, but I chose to refuse to submit to temptation which would probably would have resulted in an STD or unwanted pregnancy. I was even called gay by some of them because of my refusal to submit to them.(Your hot and all and I would like to you but you look to trashy, so I gotta go with my gut feeling)
As my doctor would say: "If it smells bad it probably is bad".

[Blake]

I thought we were discussing the profitability of condoms, a discussion inspired by the Pope article but not restricted to it.

um ok

Also, when did I ever speak against non profit orgs?
If anything I showed my appreciation for such organizations with my compliments to the Salvation Army.

I didn't say you spoke against non profits.

I said you have no clue what they do over there.

I don't think any rational person thinks that doing a flyover of Africa and parachuting down crates of Trojans is the whole answer.

Condoms is a small part of the solution. You won't wreck if you never get in a car, but if you have to put your sausage in the car, at least wear a seat belt.

That's all anyone is saying......

...except for the pope.

[ploto]

Do people even know that for decades governments in Africa denied they even had AIDS there. I met someone almost 20 years ago who did medical work in Africa and they had to sneak out viles of blood to be tested for HIV because the government refused to allow it and to admit it was a problem. Out of the 10 they sent out, 6 were HIV positive. These people did not even know.

You have to understand the nature of the societies before you can pretend that preaching your viewpoint means anything to them. It is nice to live in your own world but if you have any intent of reaching others, you HAVE to get outside of that narrow view of the world and see it as others do or you have no context within which to address them.

[biological clock]

Okay, but you should know I hope to adopt kids as well as have them myself.

Time is not on your side!

[David Bowie]

Do people even know that for decades governments in Africa denied they even had AIDS there. I met someone almost 20 years ago who did medical work in Africa and they had to sneak out viles of blood to be tested for HIV because the government refused to allow it and to admit it was a problem. Out of the 10 they sent out, 6 were HIV positive. These people did not even know.

You have to understand the nature of the societies before you can pretend that preaching your viewpoint means anything to them. It is nice to live in your own world but if you have any intent of reaching others, you HAVE to get outside of that narrow view of the world and see it as others do or you have no context within which to address them.

I completly agree that the solution to whi problem should start at the top. The president of SOuth Africa is stil denying that AIDS exists or that it is related to HIV.

[angel_luv]

Time is not on your side!

Who cares if time is on my side? God is.

[peewee's lovechild]

Who cares if time is on my side? God is.

No he's not.

You accused his favorite son of being the Anti-Christ.

He hates you now.

[angel_luv]

No he's not.

You accused his favorite son of being the Anti-Christ.

He hates you now.

I suggested, not accused.

And believe me, God is use to me being off base and incorrect, which I more than likely was in that case.

But no matter how goofy I get, God always loves me.
And nothing you suggest will ever convince me otherwise.

[peewee's lovechild]

I suggested, not accused.

And believe me, God is use to me being off base and incorrect, which I more than likely was in that case.

But no matter how goofy I get, God always loves me.
And nothing you suggest will ever convince me otherwise.

What if Bobby is the real Anti-Christ?