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    Seeking the quiet mind desflood's Avatar
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    That % is? I'd guess 10% maybe 5% of the homeless are mentally unstable and probably shouldn't be on the streets and deserve better. In no way are "more of them" or most or anywhere near half of them mentally ill.
    1/3?

    http://www.homelessmentallyill.org/faq.htm

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    That % is? The tent people article was interviewing recently unemployed people who were relegated to tents. Specifically a car salesman off the top of my head. I don't think he was mentally re ed. I'd guess 10% maybe 5% of the homeless are mentally unstable and probably shouldn't be on the streets and deserve better. In no way are "more of them" or most or anywhere near half of them mentally ill.
    them tent people = the jones

    i could care less about them ppl were living it up during the good times, now everything is in the ters, are brought back down to reality. Foreclosure is looming biatches.

    i hate the fkn ppl who are well off who attend them food vans where charities hand out free samiches, soup and tea for the less fortunate who live on the streets. them free loading kents.

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    hey i read that you can buy foreclosure houses in america for less than 5k.....so whats the catch here?

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    even less would prompt that behavior. My father in law quite his 35k a year job for the 2k a month he gets in disability because "why work for more when you can earn a fair amount by doing nothing". Pretty ed up and very common.
    Not to be political, but the current administration won't change that AT ALL.

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    hey i read that you can buy foreclosure houses in america for less than 5k.....so whats the catch here?

    You live next door to crachhouses. Or its in Detroit.

    6 in one, half dozen the other.

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    You can dissect my statements however you please but the fact of the matter is that someone who's motivated to seek gainful employment can in fact secure a job. With a company like this its not uncommon for their to be some sort of reasonable relocation package or help. Especially if they're having such a hard time finding people to keep their successful business running.

    Crying about how difficult it is for a homeless man to move across the country is a waste of hot air as far as I'm concerned because it can be done. He's already in a ing tent....go live in a tent where the jobs are. Better yet check into a shelter because in a town with employment rates doing so well there is bound to be plenty of beds available.

    Go ahead and just keep making excuses for them. They feed off that like they do our garbage.
    Have you ever tried to get a job without an address or phone number to list on the ing resume or application?

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    You'd probably have an easier time attracting the mentally ill to Minot than the sane. When I was in the AF, Minot AFB was a northern tier hardship assignment, and was almost treated like going overseas. The tour was short and you got an assignment choice for your follow on base. They still didn't get enough volunteers.

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    Easier said than done but I understand where you are coming from. I watched a show last night about people getting evicted from their homes. Sad indeed.
    Was that 60 minutes? If it was i watched it too, and it was sad. But they kinda gave off the impression that they had no idea the foreclosure was coming. I mean it's not like someone just shows up one day and kicks you out with no warning. At the very least, once you start not paying your mortgage you have to start thinking "I wonder how long I can do this?"

    I agree with B2B. I mean if youre already living in a tent, you would think you would be willing ot move even if you are still in a tent in the next place.

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    Not to be political, but the current administration won't change that AT ALL.
    Neither did the prior administration.

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    You live next door to crachhouses. Or its in Detroit.

    6 in one, half dozen the other.
    Not true. You can buy foreclosure homes all across the Country.

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    Gennadiy Tomashov rolls a cigarette in his tent at a tent city in Sacramento, California March 15, 2009. Tomashov lost his trucking job and has been homeless for eight months. Sacramento's tent city has seen an increase in population as unemployment numbers grow in the US.

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    why this lazy bum hasn't gotten off his ass and taken a call center job in North Dakota is beyond me.

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    Will we be forced to strip our clothes and be placed in the shower with 100 others?

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    can tonto sleep in pale face tent
    or does tonto need pale face reservation?

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    Have you ever tried to get a job without an address or phone number to list on the ing resume or application?
    This is the only reasonable argument I've seen so far. The answer is to get a PO box and state that you're looking to relocate.

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    This is the only reasonable argument I've seen so far.
    Probably because it's a pointless debate.

    There are lazy asses and non-lazy asses living in these tents. For you to lump them all in the lazy ass category is a pretty nice job of being ignorant.

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    Probably because it's a pointless debate.

    There are lazy asses and non-lazy asses living in these tents. For you to lump them all in the lazy ass category is a pretty nice job of being ignorant.
    I thinks it probably more ignorant to assume a rational "non-lazy" adult would be relegated to tent living.

    I could excuse a week even a month but there is no excuse for a functional adult to live in a tent for 8 month or two years or half of their adult life.

    Good job feeding the fire.

    Seriously. You expect there to be some kind of hierarchy within the tent people.

    "yeah yeah the slums are over on the North end of the park and the good tent neighborhoods are over here on the South".

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    Seriously. You expect there to be some kind of hierarchy within the tent people.

    "yeah yeah the slums are over on the North end of the park and the good tent neighborhoods are over here on the South".
    There is a hierarchy among the homeless I've worked with. The transient homeless, the ones who try to find work, the ones who basically behave, get to stay under the elevated freeway, with some protection from the rain, and some soft straw to sleep on. The drug addicts, the bums, the ones who are violent and who steal, don't get to stay there. The other homeless kick them out. They have to stay in the overgrown park on the other side of the courthouse, or in a place, under another overpass, that floods whenever it rains.

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    There is a hierarchy among the homeless I've worked with. The transient homeless, the ones who try to find work, the ones who basically behave, get to stay under the elevated freeway, with some protection from the rain, and some soft straw to sleep on. The drug addicts, the bums, the ones who are violent and who steal, don't get to stay there. The other homeless kick them out. They have to stay in the overgrown park on the other side of the courthouse, or in a place, under another overpass, that floods whenever it rains.
    None of them should be homeless long enough to congregate in masses large enough to delegate space and structure.

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    None of them should be homeless long enough to congregate in masses large enough to delegate space and structure.
    Sometimes objective reality fails to match up with your ideology.

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    Sometimes objective reality fails to match up with your ideology.
    That's pretty much the entire point of my thread. The reality is that we shouldn't feel sorry for or make provisions for these people who are fully capable of seeking employment.

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    So, the people in tents have wireless internet access to read this thread with?

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    So, the people in tents have wireless internet access to read this thread with?
    They have free internet access at nearly every public library.

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    They have free internet access at nearly every public library.
    All public libraries in San Antonio.

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    That's pretty much the entire point of my thread. The reality is that we shouldn't feel sorry for or make provisions for these people who are fully capable of seeking employment.
    There are some homeless who don't want to be helped and don't want to work. There are some looking for a handout. There are some who are whacked out on drugs. There are some who are down on their luck who get back on their feet with a little help. There are some who have mental problems. There are some who work and make decent money, but choose to remain homeless and give some of their money to their friends so they can get back on their feet.

    You choose to generalize. Probably what it amounts to is that you really just don't care and don't want to be bothered about it. Their being homeless is not your problem. Screw them.

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    There are some homeless who don't want to be helped and don't want to work. There are some looking for a handout. There are some who are whacked out on drugs. There are some who are down on their luck who get back on their feet with a little help. There are some who have mental problems. There are some who work and make decent money, but choose to remain homeless and give some of their money to their friends so they can get back on their feet.

    You choose to generalize. Probably what it amounts to is that you really just don't care and don't want to be bothered about it. Their being homeless is not your problem. Screw them.

    Hey, how about if we put a fence around Kansas and put all the homless people there?

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