The Lakers gave up their leads. Philly simpy outplayed the Lakers late in the 3rd into the 4th. Lakers had 15 and 12 point leads but couldn't hold on.
On the final 3 point shot/game winner, Igoudala made that shot with all the space in the world. A 2 pointer would have just tied the game but Ariza dared AI to shoot a 3...stupid move.
Ariza also boneheaded and didn't foul him (Lakers had a foul to give) and the shot went in. Gotta give props to the Sixers for taking care of business while the Lakers collapsed.
Wow I get angry every time I watch the highlights of this game. The Lakers fans can't accept something was wrong here because it cheapens their le, which all of us spurs fans can understand (remember the asterisk). Regardless, almost every non-laker fan can accept that something was fishy about this game. I tend to believe it was a lone referee---not some vast NBA conspiracy, but that is just a guess.
I can buy the Laker homerism in not accepting it. However, at the same time, did Donaghy give the Spurs the Suns series?
Does this game make you "angry every time" you watch the highlights? Was this game "fishy"?
wow off topic
Perception?
Kobe
And Lebron is REALLY bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGmg...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFZIFIV8i0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di32b...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH73R...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhbM6...eature=related
and the infamous Crab Dribble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYhSf...eature=related
Just, rewatched it. Yes it's a travel, he changed his pivot foot.
Kobe's had by far worse travels...just like any NBA player. Heck, I still remember Manu picking up the ball from the 3point line for a dunk on the Sixers. He covered 20 feet with just one dribble. Manu not only got the points but made the highlight reel.
Donaghy's "crew" wasn't in on it, only he was caught cheating, and this game wasn't one listed as one of the ones he rigged
Donaghy's a liar and not really a guy that can be trusted. Why would he list all the games he's rigged...it would only add to his sentence and fine.
I mean you saw the video, he gave a call to Manu from half-court on a play that happened under the basket...2-3 seconds after the play ended.
you know what else would add to his sentence..............lying. You don't think full disclosure was part of his plea agreement. You're right though he's the only ref that has ever made a call while being nowhere near the play, every other time the ref closest to the play has made the call except for that one time.
Kobe Bryant gets away with everything on defense you Laker fans are in such ing denial. You didn't deserve this championship. I love some of the things Bill Walton is saying "Well Chris Webber gets a clean block I don't really see the foul there except Kobe Bryant jumping into the defender" another classic is when Shaq rips Vlades arm from him when Vlade is attempting a layup and Bill Walton says "Thats a foul, I mean if your not gonna call that whats the point of even having a ball game" and its so true. Bill Walton realized it. Laker fans need to realize it. Your all a bunch of front running pussies who have had everything handed to you from Phil Jackson to Pau Gasol. Your team gets away with murder. Enjoy front running for years gots.
Criminals lie all the time. Even in their plea bargains. Even guys on death row carry their lies to their graves.
Donaghy also said it wasn't just him and that the NBA was rigged. Stern came out and said he was a "Rogue". Who's lieing here.
You can't trust a liar. And the fact is, Donaghy's been a ref since 1994. We'll never know how many games & championships were tainted. But it would be very odd that he would only taint Laker games.
Bulls? Spurs? Lakers? Pistons?
Perception?
Kobe
the officiate in this series was so bad in favor of the Lakers and against the Spurs - this no call, the offensive foul that Bryant made on Bowen at the end of game 1, the Fisher foul and alot of bad little calls that went against us, i feel bad about this serirs because of the officiate, with a fair officiate i think we would won this series.
As does Bowen.
The comments are pretty classic in the Suns/Spurs game as well.I love some of the things Bill Walton is saying "Well Chris Webber gets a clean block I don't really see the foul there except Kobe Bryant jumping into the defender" another classic is when Shaq rips Vlades arm from him when Vlade is attempting a layup and Bill Walton says "Thats a foul, I mean if your not gonna call that whats the point of even having a ball game" and its so true. Bill Walton realized it. Laker fans need to realize it. Your all a bunch of front running pussies who have had everything handed to you from Phil Jackson to Pau Gasol. Your team gets away with murder. Enjoy front running for years gots.
"Tim Donaghy calls the foul....from Mid-court"
"I don't see the foul, looks like Tim shot his hip out"
"That's a foul!! Duncan hit Amare"
"Wow, Bowen kneed Nash in the groin".
just watched the vids, man that was some ty reffing. even the announcers were questioning the calls.
'4th Quarter FT attempts: Sac-9 LA-25' hahahahaha
i forgot how good that kings team was, nobody today passes it like they did.
Jesus Christ, Spurs Fans. I'm calling you out.
Seriously, I have never seen as much crying over spilt milk on this board before. News flash:
Stars get calls. Kobe and Shaq got calls. So did MJ. So what? That doesn't prove a conspiracy. The Spurs have 4 rings. Let me say that again - small market blue collar working class San Antonio that the NBA would rather didn't exist HAS 4 RINGS. If everything is fixed, no way does San Antonio wins 4 championships - especially the game 7 in 2005.
Face it: Life is good for Spurs fans. Why should we give a flying about what calls LA does or doesn't get? Seriously. LA has tons of fans that are bandwagoning bags. Phil Jackson is an arrogant asshole. The Gasol trade was bull . None of this is news.
Sean Elliott once said to win a le, a team has to be good enough to beat the other 8 people on the court - 5 players and 3 refs. If your team isn't that good, then it's a toss up and you're leaving it to luck.
Take a lesson from a Spurs player - and instead of whining about LA, maybe, just maybe try growing a pair and making some noise at the At&T center. Pride is not about complaining about how unfair the league is favoring the Lakers. LA. Have enough pride to at least drown out the MVP chants for Kobe ON OUR ING COURT.
Real Spurs fans step up, they don't complain about how unfair is.
Ah ... the great art of diverting attention from main subject by pulling other teams into the fray.
FOUR RINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lakers are rigged because they are Americas most watched team....
Spurs are rigged because they are the Worlds most watched team....
makes sense now....
No, not really. This game was not as bad as the Lakers-Kings even by a long shot. Still---as a Spurs fan I would probably block it out of my memory like Lakerfan does the whole Lakers-Kings series.
obviously not EVERYTHING is fixed. they arent controlling everything all the time. BUT...
every so often the league does deem it necessary to give a certain side 'a little help'. this i think is undisputable. for example they do not 'fix' an entire game of us vs. lakers, but certain pressure makes them a bit inclined to swallow the whistle in key situations in order to give the lakers a little nudge. after the '05 finals they did NOT want a rematch between the two teams again (and they were favorites once again) it was clear they gave Dallas a little help in getting rid of the spurs, just as they helped Miami off detroit, then helped DWhistle off Dallas.
also explain how LA and Boston both became powerhouses from one year to the next and both make the Finals without 'a little help' (Gasol give away).
the WHOLE THING is certainly not 'fixed'. but the powers that be also CERTAINLY do 'give a little help' here and there when they want a certain team to succeed, or one to lose.
the only whole game/series i know of that was entirely fixed was the '02 LA-SAC series (which they admitted to) and the '06 SA-Dallas series.
What's your evidence?
Donaghy is more reliable than Stern or Delaney.
Evidence? Right here. Look at the "foul" on Manu. The guy who called it was Donaghy ... at mid-court ... with no view of the play.
Who fouled Manu?
You Spurs fans are saying the Kings/Lakers fouls were worse than the Suns/Spurs game. Show me which ones were "worse".
For every bad call in the Lakers games, I can find you an equally bad call in the Suns/Spurs video.
Like I said, Donaghy ref'ed many games since 1994. The Lakers had 3 championships, the Spurs had 4.
If you're gonna feel sad for the Kings and their players, you should also feel bad for the Suns and their players.
If you're gonna say "the fix was on", let's not be biased and pretend that it was only the Lakers. With 7 rings between both teams, we can't call out "the fix" without questioning our own team's success. I can see this thread on a Kings forum or a Suns forum but on a Spurs forum?
Or you can stop whining about how the refs are out to get you and take wins/losses like a man. It's like after every loss here on ST, "oh we lost this game because of the refs".
Teams win and lose, refs are human and they will make bad calls.
Last edited by Allanon; 03-18-2009 at 06:05 PM.
Not as bad as Lakers-Kings even by a long shot? What kind of homerism is this?
Which fouls in the Laker video are so bad? Tell me the time they occur and I'll review them and post screenshots.
allanon is going into denial...
If this is true, I obviously have company
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