Reply With Quote
then get a job so you can afford one
A source for what? That most have opportunity or that most are lazy pieces of ?
then get a job so you can afford one
That "most have the ability and the resource to get out of that lifestyle"
right, so let's just lump them all together as lazy.
much easier.
Ok.
http://www.hud.gov/homeless/hmlsagen.cfm
If You Are Homeless...
If you are homeless, help is available! HUD, along with many other federal agencies, funds programs to help the homeless. These programs are managed by local organizations that provide a range of services, including shelter, food, counseling, and jobs skills programs. So start by contacting a homeless assistance agency in your area.
Here is whats available state to state.
http://www.hud.gov/homeless/hmlsagen.cfm
For vets
http://www1.va.gov/homeless/
VA offers a wide array of special programs and initiatives specifically designed to help homeless veterans live as self-sufficiently and independently as possible. In fact,VA is the only Federal agency that provides substantial hands-on assistance directly to homeless persons. Although limited to veterans and their dependents, VA's major homeless-specific programs cons ute the largest integrated network of homeless treatment and assistance services in the country.
VA's specialized homeless veterans treatment programs have grown and developed since they were first authorized in 1987. The programs strive to offer a continuum of services that include:
* aggressive outreach to those veterans living on streets and in shelters who otherwise would not seek assistance;
* clinical assessment and referral to needed medical treatment for physical and psychiatric disorders, including substance abuse;
* long-term sheltered transitional assistance, case management, and rehabilitation;
* employment assistance and linkage with available income supports; and
* supported permanent housing.
Education for Homeless Children and Youths Grants for State and Local Activities
http://www.ed.gov/programs/homeless/resources.html
Here is a homelessness resource center
http://www.nrchmi.samhsa.gov/Default.aspx
If I were to have the time I could have tripled the list of available resources that are designed to help the ones that need it most.
See my post above for a small list of available resources.
Look at this impressive list of assistance.
http://www.usich.gov/library/publica...ry_Mar2008.pdf
and wow you can even locate a runaway youth shelter state by state.
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/fysb...ams/locate.htm
They even have a coalition
Welcome to the online Directory of Homeless & Housing Advocacy Coalitions!
The organizations listed in this directory are primarily homeless and housing advocacy coalitions. This includes groups working on the statewide and local (community or county) level. National organizations are included here but are also listed separately in the Directory of National Homeless & Housing Organizations. An Online Directory of Local Homeless Service Organizations is also available.
but but but there is no help. Lets all feel sorry for them.
That is a very impressive list of shelters!
So why then would someone choose to live in a tent where have to take a crap behind a tree when they could get a hot meal, a roof and assistance from a homeless shelter?
....Former car salesman Corvin and his wife Tena are among the newest residents of the tent city.
The couple, who are in their fifties, lost their home and jobs around the same time.
With homeless shelters full in Sacramento, they had little choice but to use what savings they had left to buy a tent.......
http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/...ed-and-unspun/
TIFBS
Should have used that money for a bus to a town with a shelter.With homeless shelters full in Sacramento, they had little choice but to use what savings they had left to buy a tent......
P.S. There is assistance for people locating shelters too.
so because you have an obvious disconnect from the real world it's FBS?
Look you're excusing being homeless for an extended period of time. For any and all reasons. Dude was a ing car salesman for s sake. I don't care how bad the economy and auto world is this guy could find a sales job at a million locations across this country. He chose to live in a tent in a park. Now if this guy was homeless for a week or a month I'd understand but a large portion of these people are homeless indefinitely. He could have ing begged for money to get where a shelter has beds.
I would have. If I had absolutely nothing I'd beg for enough to get my wife and I into a shelter. A former co-worker probably would have been more than happy to spot him a 50 or 100 to get a ride to a shelter.
There is no ing excuse outside of being re ed to not exercise some ing resourcefulness in finding shelter. No ing excuse with all the available resources free of ing charge to be relegated to a god damn tent. Stop justifying the behavior of the lazy. Its ing pathetic.
There is probably no less than 30 government workers playing solitaire at their desks just waiting for a turd like this to walk in so they can set him up.
The people that are truly disconnected from the real world are the people that think these tent city people and others like them aren't given the resources and opportunity to obtain a better lifestyle. A week a month whatever.....I can understand that an initial blow could put someone on the street. As a lifestyle. NO ING WAY.
Very few people should be forced to live like this with no hope in site and those people probably shouldn't be out in the general public.
Um, yes, you CAN be evicted overnight due to a foreclosure ... renters are facing this all the time.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=88251859"Once a foreclosure occurs, those renters are being evicted without virtually any notice, despite the fact that they have paid their monthly rental bills every month without any interruptions whatsoever," says Paul Leonard, who heads California's Center for Responsible Lending.
Here is a single mom who lost her job and was in a shelter for 7 months: http://housingdoom.com/2009/03/09/40...s-are-renters/
You think this woman and others like her WANT to be homeless? And because it took 7 months you think that she didn't pull herself up by her bootstraps? PUHLEEZE. It must be nice to be in your fixed mortgage ivory tower looking down on others without knowing their story or what they have been through
And a PO box alone will not get you a job ... you need a phone number. You are homeless, your landline is gone and you probably don't have a cell phone, and even if you did ... where the are you going to charge it?
Look, do I think some homeless don't want to help themselves? Absolutely. But I have worked with homeless people before ... when I worked at the NW AIDS Foundation in college. Trust me, the majority don't want to be homeless and try to get things right, but there is a societal stigma against people with AIDS, particularly gay men w/ HIV or AIDS like many of these people were. Same thing with mentally ill citizens (particularly war veterans) who make up a significant percentage of homeless people. And then there are people like the lady in the video. She could have easily been a 'tent person' but luckily for her the shelters were not full. What if they had been? Would you have snubbed your nose at her?
You lumping all of these people into a lazy category is lazy.
Don't worry, I won't try to justify your lazy behavior.
I understand being homeless for a short term. 7 months is a long time. Did she get a job right away and save up for 7 months or did she live in a shelter for 7 months while she cherry picked for a job? Not a lot of info in that 2 minute segment of heroism.
I've been homeless before. I've had nothing and for two weeks I lived out of my truck after living two weeks in my grandmothers garage. I've had no phone no permanent address. I found a way to not be like that. Not live like that and took whatever I could get and went from there. I'm not sitting up in some ivory tower casting shame on the homeless but I sure as think that the majority don't do whats necessary to get out.
Especially for the people who are "stuck" in a world of homelessness and then cry about a lack of resources. This "stigma" you talk of pertaining to the homeless is addressed within these programs. They have food, shelter and job training all geared twords beating those stigmas. You have to ing want it though.
Fair enough.
Judging by my past experiences with these people I'd say 75% are more than capable of finding a way out if they really wanted it. 15% aren't mentally capable of doing that and might in fact remain homeless but are possibly not legally re ed. 10% should be ins utionalized and cared for.
My wife and I both have served community service at kitchens. My wife has worked in shelters. Neither of us feel sorry for a large portion of these people.
B2B, have you ever tried to get into these programs? The waiting list (particularly in this economy) can be days, weeks and many times months long.
You can't base everyone's homeless experience on your own. Yeah, seven months is a long time but what if she only had a p/t job and got paid say $90 a week? How long before she can save up for first/last month's rent? Several weeks I would say, especially since some of that $90 had to go to food and other necessities. And let's not forget that she would still have to qualify for a rental agreement, which means the rent can't be more than 1/3 or so of her p/t mcdonald's pay. And deposits on electricity and water, unless she was lucky enough to find the rare all bills paid place.
There are so many ways this could have taken 7 months that I find it impossible to judge her. I am just thankful she got out of it. Not everyone does. Not everyone can. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps? Great ... but what if you have no boots?
Then why serve if you don't give a damn? That doesn't make any sense at all. That is what I was told.
As a matter of fact I have partook in these available programs. My wife and I aren't legally married. We needed health care for our boy. Daycare for her to find a job and since she had no job she qualified for food stamps and an entire host of programs.
The food stamps took about a week. (we did not apply for emergency stamps or it would have been sooner) 320 dollars a month worth.
Secured health care for my unemployed wife and son in less than 3 days.
Had childcare available if needed for 3 dollars a day up to 7 hours a day and lined that up in less than a week.
This is why I have no sympathy for most of these people. They just don't care enough to go the extra mile for the help. The red tape isn't what you make it out to be. Its not like trying to qualify for college grant money.
I totally understand and have sympathy if that lady above worked while she was in the shelter. I wholeheartedly support her.
Probation.
Well said.
There is little basis for her red tape argument. These programs take very little to get involved in.
I wasn't referring to food stamps or health care so much as housing. Trying to qualify for and get into public housing or discounted housing for the poor is very hard to do. Food stamps can be gotten in a week, so you won't starve. But you are still homeless.
Free takes time I agree. When I met my wife her brother was living in income controlled housing. He had a two bedroom two bathroom for about 450. They do single bedroom single bath apartments all the way down to 125 a month at the time. There were vacancies and to be honest I didn't even know they were income controlled. It was a nice complex. Corpus has six complexes like that and we're a small city. Fill out an application and move in right away just like a normal complex. No waiting periods. Just produce whatever paycheck stub you have. Little to no deposit required.
I agree it takes work but between the food stamps and the shelter along with the available free training I'm certain they can find a way out in a 4-6 month time period and probably less than that.
The majority of these people aren't seeking help. Too busy feeling sorry for themselves.
Standing in line marking time, waiting for the welfare dime
'Cause they can't buy a job
B2B hurries by as he catches the poor ladies' eyes
Just for fun he says "get a job"
That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
Ah, but don't you believe them
http://www.apartmentsmart.com/forren...rty_detail.asp
Someone feel like calling for prices. Income controlled apartments in my area. They're everywhere. Specially designed for the McDonalds crowd.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
