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    The BAE still counts against the cap, so if the Spurs are wanting to max somebody out they have to give up the BAE too.
    correct as usual. was still using some of my pre-economy flop figures. totally slipped my mind. thanks.

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    The BAE still counts against the cap, so if the Spurs are wanting to max somebody out they have to give up the BAE too. Moot point though since the Spurs won't be in that situation.

    2009:
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    - extension for Manu
    - possibly Gist

    2010:
    - MLE
    - hopefully Splitter
    - draft pick

    BAE used in one of those years.
    This sounds like a very reasonable plan. Maybe Sheed instead of Gooden if possible. Of course this depends very much on how he'll fit in the team, so we'll see.

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    so instead of tryin to bring in a top FA

    we throw a chunk of the capspace to ginoboli and try to win a ring again with the 3 cores with rookies and vets on the cheaps? if we aint winnin it this year or next year, why continue if we know this team aint compe ive?

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    Shaqs goal isnt to win championships anymore. His goal is to get as many points possible and crack top 5 all time.
    These kind of comments are an epic kind of ignorant and stupid.

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    These kind of comments are an epic kind of ignorant and stupid.

    ????
    WTF


    He has said himself that his goal is to break scoring records. Before you insult, know your own team

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    so instead of tryin to bring in a top FA

    we throw a chunk of the capspace to ginoboli and try to win a ring again with the 3 cores with rookies and vets on the cheaps? if we aint winnin it this year or next year, why continue if we know this team aint compe ive?
    Because the alternative is to give up on the 09-10 season before it's even started by not doing anything in offseason 2009 just so that you can hope that the Spurs are able to convince a big name to sign here in 2010. And those hopes depend on that big name being willing to take less than the max. Not very good odds of that happening IMO.

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    so instead of tryin to bring in a top FA

    we throw a chunk of the capspace to ginoboli and try to win a ring again with the 3 cores with rookies and vets on the cheaps? if we aint winnin it this year or next year, why continue if we know this team aint compe ive?
    If we assume that the players we're after are Bosh/JJohnson/Amare types, then we stand no chance to get them unless we offer the max possible, which would probably start at about $15-17M. Even if we dump Hill, Gist, all picks,not use the MLE this sumemr, not re-sign Manu and Mason, we still will not be able to fill up the roster unless we sign total garbage on min contracts. In that case we'd have to rely on an aging Duncan to play 40+ mins for the whole season and playoffs. Such a team would have no chance to win a championship.

    We can't afford to have 2 max contracts ( Duncan, FA ) and a 3rd very big one ( Parker ).We've never been able to and we most certainly won't be able to afford it in the stagnating economy and cap by 2010. The reason we have 3 all stars right now is that both Parker and Manu are blatantly underpaid. No way any star is underpaid in 2010 because there are too many teams with lots of money to offer, so it wouldn't be realistic to expect to get someone for less than their market value.

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    If the Spurs don't win it all this year I think we will see major core changes that might make the 2010 plan mot. I believe I remember Tony Parker talking about this in an interview earlier this year.

    Here is the link I found, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...85#post2798685

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    If the Spurs don't win it all this year I think we will see major core changes that might make the 2010 plan mot. I believe I remember Tony Parker talking about this in an interview earlyer this year.

    Here is the link I found, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...85#post2798685
    Ya, that is the thread I started. I think what we have concluded is that some of the mainstays will be gone, but none of the big 3. No more Bowen, Oberto...

    This still does not change the actuality of the situation. Spurs will not be signing a max player. If Gino is healthy, he will get an extension.

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