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End of the month, man.
I got a ing ticket for going 1 mile over the speed limit
46 in a 45 ROFL
At first i thought the cop was joking considering the increments aren't even
that detailed but i guess the state is really desperate for money. I have to goto
court on the 1st of next month i wonder what I'm going to say
End of the month, man.
what does that mean? Sorry, i am a bit naive when it comes to these issues, elaborate.
Just tell the judge you were trying so hard to focus on not getting over the speed limit that you made a mistakeI got a ing ticket for going 1 mile over the speed limit
At first i thought the cop was joking considering the increments aren't even
that detailed but i guess the state is really desperate for money. I have to goto
court on the 1st of next month i wonder what I'm going to say
Or that you were listening to the radio and heard that the Spurs offered a 2 year extension to Finley
I got pulled over last week for an air freshener hanging from my reAr view mirror
country or county?
Is there a stupider law than speed limits of 45 and 55 mph?
LOL, i think I'm just going to tell it like it is...i don't see how they could possibly give me a ticket. Its going to be interesting, to find out what they are going to do, and if they give me a fine, how much.
School Zones 20mph
Cops use stuff like this as an excuse to see if you have been drinking, or smell like marijuana or something.
They could give two s in a deep hole about the air freshener.
Hey . . . the kids come first . . .School Zones 20mph
You say "not guilty"I got a ing ticket for going 1 mile over the speed limit
At first i thought the cop was joking considering the increments aren't even
that detailed but i guess the state is really desperate for money. I have to goto
court on the 1st of next month i wonder what I'm going to say
Insist on a jury trial.
I would bet some solid money that the prosecutor will look at that and dismiss it almost out of hand.
Be nice and polite, don't give the prosecutor your life story, and don't admit you are guilty no matter what.
The costs to the gov't of a jury trial for a 1mph speeding ticket exceed the fine.
My guess is that you were a smartass to the cop, because most law enforcement policy manuals tell cops to simply give you a warning for anything under 5 mph.
Either that or you have some bumper sticker that rubbed him/her the wrong way.
Is my guess correct?
I would simply say that if someone was speeding in my kids' school zone, and hit my kid, I would be... upset.
Texas is a very big place to hide dead carcasses. Just sayin'.
Just being cynical... I'm guessing the police have some quotas they're supposed to meet each month.
Well I'm glad you care for the kids.......
Isn't there a 10% measure for speed-gun inaccuracy in place?
Why wouldn't I?
Definitely ask for a trial - and then ask when the radar gun was last calibrated. There's no way they can be that accurate - they have to consider the variations in speedometers.
This is only the beginning.
Police department's budgets nationwide are being slashed by state governments who are nearing bankruptcy.
Even before the economic meltdown, police departments used ticket-writing as a means to subsidize their individual departments and personnel.
If the state cuts their budget by 40%, then they have to either a) cut costs 40% thru layoffs, etc or b) make up as much of that 40% of lost revenue through other means.
Namely, on the back of the citizens by tickets, fines and license fees.
I used to not like cops when I was a teenager because I was doing things a teenager shouldnt be doing. Now, I dont like cops because a vast majority of them are incompetent, power-mongers and their entire reason for existence (to protect and serve the community) has become more about self-sufficiency than anything else.
Think about this.
We as citizens allow their existence and increase of power in the spirit of law and the greater good. Now, they see us as untapped resources of cash in an effort to justify and subsidize their existence.
Two solutions:
1) Decriminalize illegal drugs thereby ending this sad-sack War on Drugs. Overnight, their budgets become balanced and they actually increase revenue because possession becomes a fine-able offense (which most people will pay happily, compared to the alternative).
2) Cut entire police departments country wide (statewide if it does ya).
Obviously, I dont prefer #2. But the alternative to these options is what youre seeing right now, across the country.
Make no mistake, patrolmen are not happy with their department directives. They dont want to harass the citizenry, ticketing them for every offense they see (unless youre a rude prick, then they just take their time, enjoying it even more). Most officers know without a shadow of a doubt that 90% of the populace dislikes and distrusts them immensely.
The deputy who came over my house for fingerprints told me as much. He pretended to not understand why, but deep down, he knows.
After he made that exact comment (90% of people dont like us), I said to him "Well, and dont take offense to this, it might be because citizens view the police force as a thing of the past. That en y has been replaced by the current para-military force, masquerading as a police force, using surplus military equipment as a means to enforce law upon a civilian population that isnt nearly as hostile as its made out to be."
He was taken aback a bit, but then he responded with very true (i believed him anyway) accounts of having to get into fire-fights equipped only with their Glock 9mm against guys with semi-automatic assault rifles.
I conceded that point, asked the obvious question (Drug dealers? Yes.), and then subtly hinted at "Hows the War on Drugs going, btw?" He could see where the conversation was going.
I shutup and ended with "Look, first off, I have nothing but respect for authority when I am in its presence. When I am pulled over, when I am in court, when an officer is in my house, I am the most cooperative person in the room. But thats only because I dont break the law and have nothing to fear. My problem is, most times in life, perception is reality. Fair or unfair, thats the way it works. Perception says, police cant be trusted nor counted on. And sadly, whether through under-funding or other reasons, its true. When someone needs a cop, you arent around. But boy, you speed 5 miles over in a school zone, you bet your ass youre getting a ticket from the cop parked up the street with his radar gun."
"No, I dont sympathize with drug dealers and violent criminals or people dumb enough to try and run from cops. But I do sympathize for the people who live those areas who are good people, who couldnt speak up because you cant protect them. Perception says, the police are too busy increasing department revenue writing tickets to hard-working, working class folks to track and arrest criminals. Perception and common sense says, we all know why. Criminals cost money. Tickets to middle-class people with jobs makes money. And when your role in society changed from "law enforcement" to "revenue generator", the citizens stopped trusting or liking you."
Now, you might think I'm bull ting.
That I didnt actually say all that, and to be fair, I did a lot of tip-toeing that cant be conveyed via text. But I did say it, and to be honest, I felt a uva lot better after I said it.
He actually understood my point, though not agreeing with some of it. I mean, I couldnt blame him. While in my house, his radio blurts out every local call made. Mind you, hes a deputy of the sheriff, so theyre responsible for entire county patrol in some cases. Sounded like a shooting, a hit and run, a car chase, some naked drunk walking the streets and a fatal car crash.
If I had that radio piped into my ears day-in and day-out, I might be a bit ambivalent as well.
They make up the difference usually by increasing the fines.
Vast majority? Do you have a link or is this just your opinion?I used to not like cops when I was a teenager because I was doing things a teenager shouldnt be doing. Now, I dont like cops because a vast majority of them are incompetent, power-mongers and their entire reason for existence (to protect and serve the community) has become more about self-sufficiency than anything else.
3) raise finesThink about this.
We as citizens allow their existence and increase of power in the spirit of law and the greater good. Now, they see us as untapped resources of cash in an effort to justify and subsidize their existence.
Two solutions:
1) Decriminalize illegal drugs thereby ending this sad-sack War on Drugs. Overnight, their budgets become balanced and they actually increase revenue because possession becomes a fine-able offense (which most people will pay happily, compared to the alternative).
2) Cut entire police departments country wide (statewide if it does ya).
Obviously, I dont prefer #2. But the alternative to these options is what youre seeing right now, across the country.
They aren't happy with their directives of pulling people over for speeding?Make no mistake, patrolmen are not happy with their department directives. They dont want to harass the citizenry, ticketing them for every offense they see (unless youre a rude prick, then they just take their time, enjoying it even more). Most officers know without a shadow of a doubt that 90% of the populace dislikes and distrusts them immensely.
Why did they become cops in the first place?
It's true that municipalities depend on speeding tickets as a revenue generator, but your hate for cops and calling them 'power mongers' is misplaced.The deputy who came over my house for fingerprints told me as much. He pretended to not understand why, but deep down, he knows.
After he made that exact comment (90% of people dont like us), I said to him "Well, and dont take offense to this, it might be because citizens view the police force as a thing of the past. That en y has been replaced by the current para-military force, masquerading as a police force, using surplus military equipment as a means to enforce law upon a civilian population that isnt nearly as hostile as its made out to be."
He was taken aback a bit, but then he responded with very true (i believed him anyway) accounts of having to get into fire-fights equipped only with their Glock 9mm against guys with semi-automatic assault rifles.
I conceded that point, asked the obvious question (Drug dealers? Yes.), and then subtly hinted at "Hows the War on Drugs going, btw?" He could see where the conversation was going.
I shutup and ended with "Look, first off, I have nothing but respect for authority when I am in its presence. When I am pulled over, when I am in court, when an officer is in my house, I am the most cooperative person in the room. But thats only because I dont break the law and have nothing to fear. My problem is, most times in life, perception is reality. Fair or unfair, thats the way it works. Perception says, police cant be trusted nor counted on. And sadly, whether through under-funding or other reasons, its true. When someone needs a cop, you arent around. But boy, you speed 5 miles over in a school zone, you bet your ass youre getting a ticket from the cop parked up the street with his radar gun."
"No, I dont sympathize with drug dealers and violent criminals or people dumb enough to try and run from cops. But I do sympathize for the people who live those areas who are good people, who couldnt speak up because you cant protect them. Perception says, the police are too busy increasing department revenue writing tickets to hard-working, working class folks to track and arrest criminals. Perception and common sense says, we all know why. Criminals cost money. Tickets to middle-class people with jobs makes money. And when your role in society changed from "law enforcement" to "revenue generator", the citizens stopped trusting or liking you."
Now, you might think I'm bull ting.
That I didnt actually say all that, and to be fair, I did a lot of tip-toeing that cant be conveyed via text. But I did say it, and to be honest, I felt a uva lot better after I said it.
He actually understood my point, though not agreeing with some of it. I mean, I couldnt blame him. While in my house, his radio blurts out every local call made. Mind you, hes a deputy of the sheriff, so theyre responsible for entire county patrol in some cases. Sounded like a shooting, a hit and run, a car chase, some naked drunk walking the streets and a fatal car crash.
If I had that radio piped into my ears day-in and day-out, I might be a bit ambivalent as well.
They get a set salary. We all know there is no commission. There are also no set quotas for handing out speeding tickets.
I'm betting that cop called you an ignorant dumbass as soon as he got in his car.
That sucks man, I just got out of a 60 in a 45 at 12:30 a.m this morning.
I'm almost sure I swiped this insight from FW Maitland, but finding the citation won't be easy.Part of the peculiar genius of our system of justice is its vendibility.
Last edited by Winehole23; 03-23-2009 at 11:55 AM.
My opinion and experience, solely.
Good point.3) raise fines
Yes, they are unhappy. I personally know 3 cops, 1 being a detective (none too personal though). The patrolmen do not enjoy writing frivolous tickets. Which leads me to my next point....They aren't happy with their directives of pulling people over for speeding?
Why did they become cops in the first place?
...youre right. There are no set quotas, to be sure. But dont think for one ing second they dont have the meetings every week about budget shortfalls, personnel loss, etc. Or that in those same meetings they dont go right from talking about the budget to new speed trap zones and extra vigilance in traffic offenses here-here-and-here on the map.It's true that municipalities depend on speeding tickets as a revenue generator, but your hate for cops and calling them 'power mongers' is misplaced.
They get a set salary. We all know there is no commission. There are also no set quotas for handing out speeding tickets.
Its obvious to everyone but the guy who requires a written do ent stating quota goals that the seargents and lieutenants are looking for increases in tickets written.
Its not that difficult to pick up on innuendo.
Well, seeing as I dont much give a what he thinks, nor you since you obviously feel the same way and think you know exactly what this particular officer was thinking at the time he left my house.I'm betting that cop called you an ignorant dumbass as soon as he got in his car.
Since youre so damn clairvoyant, tell me Miss Cleo, hows he doing on my case? And should I expect to see him at the softball tournament this spring?
Dumbass. You dont know your ass from you elbow, genius.
"Nothing on Earth more Evil
than a human educated as 1,
when composed of opposites
that cancel out as an en y."
In fact, man is the only 1 Evil,
and will soon erase himself by
ignoring Cubic 4 Day Creation.
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