Harvey: Think They Could Use Him? Scola Trade Becomes A Facial

[Creation88]

it was re ed when it happened and it continues to splatter in our faces each and every time. 19 and 17! you're telling me the Spurs couldn't use that right now.

ugh

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Great resume. The actual error was to include Scola in the trade instead of Oberto or any other player of the kind.

As long as Scola keeps playing as good as the player the spurs seems to be desperately looking for, these threads will be here.

We couldn't have included Oberto or any other player being on the Spurs payroll instead of Scola ('s rights ) in the deal.

[boutons_deux]

E-N allows "facial" into a headline, never mind the text?

[benefactor]

Damn...just damn.

This article makes me want to punch a baby.

[Bob Lanier]

"A Facial"

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

what you(and many US posters here including LJ) don't know is: that to average 5-6 boards under FIBA rules equals about 8-9 rebounds in the NBA because of the diferences between FIBA and NBA rules.
And I've been trying to explain you this for 2 and a half years now, you friking moron!

Yes, same thing with points and especially assists are much much harder to get in Europe than in NBA. But these NBA fans keep refusing to accept truth.

[Mr. Body]

That trade cost us championships. Period.

[Yuixafun]

"A Facial"

You know, like the one women and well groomed men get at spa's.

Although at Kim's Spa in Houston...

[Indazone]

but but but...with the money you saved you were able to pay and keep Bonner.

[Agloco]

but but but...with the money you saved you were able to pay and keep Bonner.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!!!

Bonner > Scola

[WalterBenitez]

Is that two articles in a row that Harvey has mentioned "message boards"? At least he's halfway sourcing his articles these days.

probably reading us ...

[mytespurs]

I'm not familiar with the Scola trade history....why did the Spurs give up on him? And they gave him up for.....He would've been a great asset to have especially now.

[Scola Trade]

I'm not familiar with the Scola trade history....why did the Spurs give up on him? And they gave him up for.....He would've been a great asset to have especially now.

Just a bad decision by our FO. It came down to either extend Bonner or sign Scola. The amazing thing is that some people around here still think the Bonner was the right choice

[PDXSpursFan]

Reason why we don't need Scola:

1) His game doesn't translate to the NBA
2) He's undersize for PF
3) We got Bonner instead

[manufor3]

Scola thread...

[objective]

I'm not familiar with the Scola trade history....why did the Spurs give up on him? And they gave him up for.....He would've been a great asset to have especially now.

To the best of my recollection . . .

For whatever reason (presumably bad blood between both parties but worse from the Spurs), the Spurs had decided not to sign Scola. The bad blood could be attributed to starting when either Scola was so upset at not being drafted in the first round it colored his at ude towards the Spurs or when RC Buford sent unflattering email to Scola after a big season about the flaws in his game for critiquing purposes.

They had a chance in summer 05, but spent the MLE instead on Oberto (for less than Scola's 3/9-10 that he had asked for) and later Finley, causing a furor with Scola who had thought that much progress had been made on the buyout and they were very close to a deal.

That's when the campaign began. Narratives began through the local media that conitinue through to this day with the fans (begun by whom . . . you decide). False stories both to make nobody out to be the bad guy (Spurs need a center not a PF like Scola, if only Scola was taller) and to make Scola out to be the bad guy (like demanding to have the full MLE or demanding to start). Plus of course the belittling of Scola's game, like he couldn't rebound. Or how having the another post scorer would get in Duncan's way, even though he had a mid-range game at the time. Funny how once Gooden is available the same people who fell for the anti-Scola song and dance drooled at the possibilty of having another potential low post threat with Gooden.

In reaction to the glaringly obvious situation that the Spurs would never sign him, one of Scola's agents began making noise about Scola being held a slave in either summer of 06 or summer 07 before the trade. That didn't help his cause with the Spurs either.

And the trade was born.

[Old School 44]

Then why did it take less than a week for Houston to work out a buy-out and a contract for him?

Simply, the Spurs' hubris and their public attempts to flacate fans who were questioning why Scola wasn't coming year after year led to the situation in which Scola would never be a Spur. Then, they drafted Splitter, but he and Luis were teammates and friends, and he knew how much Scola despised how he felt the Spurs had treated him. So to make nice for Splitter, they had to do right by Scola. Why they sent him to Houston of all places I will never understand.

+1

I understand the salary dump and the "make nice" for Splitter, but send him east to the Wizards, Raptors or Knicks, not to a conference rival.

[Duncan2177]

I bet the spurs organization is kicking themselves in the ass for that dumbass trade.

[mytespurs]

Just a bad decision by our FO. It came down to either extend Bonner or sign Scola. The amazing thing is that some people around here still think the Bonner was the right choice

Thanks for the info. Bonner vs Scola???!!-I prefer Scola.....that's my front running opinion for the day! I may change my opinion if Bonner becomes a beast during the playoffs.

[wireonfire]

by the way here are last month averages from yahoo sports:

Luis Scola - .545(FG%) .820(FT%) 13.7(PTS) 10.5(REB) 1.7(AST) 0.6(STL) 0.2(BLK) 2.1(TO)

Tim Duncan - .432(FG%) .638(FT%) 14.8(PTS) 10.4(REB) 2.9(AST) 0.9(STL) 1.5(BLK) 2.2(TO)

[Marcus Bryant]

So at the height of his powers, Scola is able to play a blistering 10 game stretch at the same level as a gimpy Tim Duncan.

[Capt Bringdown]

That trade cost us championships. Period.

Exactly. Championships as in plural.
F'n tragic.

[Mr Bones]

Spurstalk: where new posters (who, *gasp*, haven't spent thousands of hours of their lives on an internet forum) get criticized for starting Scola threads by spurstalk members with thousands of posts who have been obsessed for two years with and posted thousands of comments about the Luis Scola Disaster!

[Marcus Bryant]

Exactly. Championships as in plural.
F'n tragic.

But hey, we shouldn't question dumb basketball trades made for financial purposes. As fans we are supposed to cheer ownership's bottom line.

[mytespurs]

Exactly. Championships as in plural.
F'n tragic.

But...the Spurs managed to win another championship w/o Scola's services....and get to the WCF as well. It's really hard to say whether the Spurs would've won more or the same amount of championships even if they had Scola.

But I, of course, would've picked Scola over Bonner....