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To be honest, we don't care. You really need to give it up and just ing enjoy the forums, KBP.
I and also some others here keeps try to explain to NBA American fans that stats in Europe is not same thing as they are in NBA. So many Spurs fans cannot understand this. They keep say thing like "5 rebounds in Europe means player will suck in NBA" and such.
This same arguments keeps come up EVERY TIME someone suggest a player from Europe, just as same case with Scola where Spurs fans really did believe 6 rebounds per game in Euroleague mean this will be really poor rebounder in NBA. Without even understand that 6 rebounds in Euroleague is like 9-10 rebounds in NBA.
Same with assists. No matter how many time this is explain here fans do not believe it. But in Europe an assist is only count if a player score directly on pass. So think of this way, most assists that players like Paul, Nash, Kidd, Stockton and such players gets in NBA will never even be count in Europe.
Also points. So many fans keeps says dumb things like "12 points in Euroleague = 3 points in NBA" but this is stupid. Teams only average 75 points so how can 12 points be same thing as in NBA? Games are much slower and much shorter.
But I and some others here have said this so many times and we never get anywhere and instead we just get insults and call bad names and attacked by others here for say such things. As can see by discussions with Scola Spurs fans need to learn some things about game in Europe. This is prove by how any time a fan bring up a good player in Europe for Spurs they are always attack after some idiots looks up there stats in Europe.
I will show you idiots how foolish you look. I will use Panathinaikos team all time stats as example here for this stats lesson since Panathinaikos team is rank by FIBA Europe as #1 best Euroleague team of last 20 years history. So we will see how best team in Europe in last 20 years has in all history in this same period each best player for stats.
Best career scorers per game in history of Panathinaikos
1. Dejan Bodiroga 18.6
2. Vassilis Spanoulis 12.2
3. Jaka Lakovic 12.1
4. Ibrahim Kutluay 11.4
5. Mike Batiste 10.7
6. Antonis Fotsis 10.1
7. Daryl Middleton 8.7
8. Dimitris Diamantidis 8.6
9. Fragiskos Alvertis 8.3
10. Johnny Rogers 7.9
best career assists per game in history of Panathinaikos
1. Vassilis Spanoulis 3.6
2. Dimitris Diamantidis 3.6
3. Dejan Bodiroga 3.1
4. Jaka Lakovic 2.6
5. Giorgos Kalaitzis 1.7
6. Nikos Hatzivrettas 1.2
7. Ibrahim Kutluay 1.0
8. Kostas Tsartsaris 1.0
9. Johnny Rogers 0.9
10. Antonis Fotsis 0.9
best career rebounds per game in history of Panathinaikos
1. Mike Batiste 5.5
2. Dejan Bodiroga 5.1
3. Antonis Fotsis 4.5
4. Dimitris Diamantidis 4.4
5. Kostsas Tsartsaris 4.1
6. Darryl Middleton 3.6
7. Dimos Dikoudis 2.9
8. Johnny Rogers 2.5
9. Ibrahim Kutluay 2.2
10. Fragiskos Alvertis 2.1
As you can see even in team that has been in the last 20 years the best team in Europe, even in such club as this these are the stats. Even as can see players like Dimitris Diamantidis and Dejan Bodiroga with all their MVP awards and even Diamantidis was vote best player in Europe once, you can see their stats here, Diamantidis winning best European player award and his stats is 8 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists.
So PLEASE from now on when someone explain to you like how Bourousis gets 7-8 rebounds in Europe in one of biggest Euroleague clubs please understand this means he is an incredible rebounder, instead of same crap like "that means he will get 2 rebounds in NBA". Just like how idiots never could learn about Scola.
And please try understand that also stats in Europe is not like same as in NBA like in NBA any stats from same league is use as example. In Europe cannot do that. You cannot use stats from small or even middle size clubs and think is same thing as big size Euroleague clubs. A player can get 15 points and 5 assists in a small Euroleague club and will not even make the roster of a big Euroleague club. Or a player will get 15 points and 3 assists in a middle size Euroleague club and will be lucky to make even active roster of a big Euroleague club.
And no way in can you compare stats from leagues like Spain and Italy and such to Euroleague. But all the time we see here fans is always doing this. Like how players is having such stats in Italy or whatever. Is nonsense.
You must look at players that are in the big Euroleague clubs and then understand what these stats mean. As you can already see player like Luis Scola. Scola in his career in big Euroleague club TAU was 15.4 PPG and 5.9 RPG
Spurs fans kept believe such nonsense as 15 and 6 Euroleague player from big club = 6 and 2 NBA playerBut as you can see even in NBA playoffs Scola was 14 and 9 player as a rookie.
You need to learn about the stats difference between NBA and big Euroleague clubs before you keep say all this same crap here all the time. Just like in Bourousis thread people are say same re ed .
Just look at Tiago Splitter in TAU (a big Euroleague club) his career numbers is 9.8 PPG and 4.7 RPG 10 and 5 player. So stats is NOT the same as in NBA. Same thing with Vassilis Spanoulis as you can see 12 and 4 type of point guard in a big Euroleague club is the best guard numbers in the history of the best European club of the last 20 years. Yet so many fans here says these are "bad stats".
I am hope now that after Luis Scola situation that Spurs fans will finally understand this that you can see what 15 and 6 player Luis Scola in big Euroleague club can do in NBA. And maybe this will also show some of you how things some of you say to posters like me and some others here is so re ed.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 03-24-2009 at 12:00 PM.
To be honest, we don't care. You really need to give it up and just ing enjoy the forums, KBP.
How's the weather in Houston?
unbelievable, malaka, dont you realise that we dont give a about your greek basketball? you are trying so much, to prove us that your greek basketballers are so great and all. trying and trying and trying, pushing everyone's button on here.
You greeks always want to hear, how great you are, while you are really not. And i know you want to see a greek player in the nba soooooo badd, but this what you are doing is not helping that. And did i say that; we dont give a ! allready??
Windy, kinda cool - waiting for the storms to roll through.
I don't recall Scola playing for a ty Greek franchise. In addition, Scola's play in the NBA has no bearing whatsoever on the fact that Vagisil's inability to make it in the NBA.
PanatTalk.com again
You're really dumb man. Interested people know that already, so stop calling out people for being stupid.
You're useless, go away.
You idiot. Euroleague is same league. TAU and Panathinaikos both plays in SAME LEAGUE of Euroleague and actually Panathinaikos is a much bigger and more important club than TAU is. It is not even close.
I make clear in post I am talking to people who do not know it like this genius Marcus Bryant for instance.
Can you even speak Greek?
EDIT: I'm completely aware that you're a latino fan in Houston...i'm just interested in whether or not you can actually speak Greek. It would make you're trolling pretty legit.
Wow..you start a thread by calling people foolish idiots, and you think we're going to accept that? Go to dude...and please, stop talking about Euro League in an NBA Forum...Either go to the international forum, or leave Spurstalk...no one in here cares to hear your rants about Euro League.
Give up the stupid ing Greek uncle routine already. Your joke was old a couple of hours after you started spamming this forum. Just go.
I'm sorry, but MB has provided more to this community than you ever will, KBP.
Here is example for you
Pou eisai re gamoto
Scola thread?
Even I am getting sick, get over it. Scola is ours to keep.
This is not a Euroleague topic. Can you even read? This is a topic about how American Spurs fans are ing idiots on issue of difference between stats in big Euroleague clubs and in NBA league. Just like your ing dumbass posts in the Bourousis thread which several foreign fans has try to correct you on.
ooooooo megaloooo malaka, ay gamisou boutsokefalos, mounotricha
I'll take that as a no.
What? You are afraid that it is you who is latino from Houston and afraid to say so here?
Also I am not "Latino" I am actually from Macedonia line. I have blond hair and blue eyes.
Being the bigger team in the Euroleague is like being the taller oompa-loompa
Greeks cannot be from macedonia line malaka, macedonians are macedonians, greeks are greeks. Greeks have black hair and dark eyes (from pontos region, ethiopia, persia, Tatarstan and alvania), nothing in common with the macedonians.
This is stupid.ooooooo megaloooo malaka, ay gamisou boutsokefalos, mounotricha
Ya, i live in the Houston, TN.
Both my parents are Puerto Rican...and i love watching Mind of Mencia.
Macedonian line of Alexander. My line is from this line of people. Alexander also had blond hair and blue eyes you idiot.
You're really going all out this time aren't you?
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