scola better

[kaji157]

To put it Simple, a guy that is MVP, All-Euroleague, and important member of the Olympic reigning champion (by that time) most likely will make the NBA and succeed.

Plus, it was already demonstrated by that time that all argentina players always found ways to help their teams, is just the way they are.

And please, stop calling European, all players that are not from the US and respect Nationality issues.

Spurs ed up, let´s move on, i will be laughing if Scola is the big FA that we get in 2010.

[urunobili]

So Scola finally has a good game against the Spurs and you show up talking ?

Congrats, you're 1 and 3 on the season and incapable of noticing the difference between poor play and not getting any minutes...there's absoutely no difference between the two to you, it's like you are missing the chromosome that allows you to differentiate.

Props

whottt.... last year i made 3 mill on vBookie and smeagol championed the season becase of Scola being the highest scorer on the match... He IS already an Official Spur Killer with credentials...

for the Record and my personal contribution for the thread... Scola when he plays against us... I'm just like smeagol... the Spurs winning is all that matter to me when he is in town...

ArgSpursfan did.


..and the Rockets FO.

are you saying you were him? i had my doubts before but it seems you just unveiled yourself with this post...

If im not mistaking it was TAU Ceramica and not Scola who was making a big deal of the buy out thing. From what i have heard Scola really wanted to come to San Antonio, his favorite player is Duncan and his own kids are huge spur fans.... He wanted to be in San Antonio.

Scola thought he got ed by the Spurs for not selecting him in the first round... he had a clause that if he was a 1st round selection he could have came ot the NBA at any time... the Spurs promised him they would choose him and they did but in the second... immediately after being selected he declared that the Spurs shouldn't have chosen him at all if it wasn't in the first round... and that they ed up his chances of ever making it to the NBA... TAU... they just took the opportunity and tightened the contract... Luis always said he would have loved to be part of the three rings they won after selecting him but the relationship with RC was broken form the very beginning...

[Ross8485]

I am a Rockets fan and I want to say THANK YOU ALL. You guys are a great team to just hand away such talent

[SynicFan]

I am a Rockets fan and I want to say THANK YOU ALL. You guys are a great team to just hand away such talent

oh yeah?

[Spursmania]

Who gives a rat's ass about Scola. Everytime he has a good game people come out of the woodwork and rehash the same over and over. He's gone, let it ing go...

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

To put it Simple, a guy that is MVP, All-Euroleague, and important member of the Olympic reigning champion (by that time) most likely will make the NBA and succeed.

Plus, it was already demonstrated by that time that all argentina players always found ways to help their teams, is just the way they are.

And please, stop calling European, all players that are not from the US and respect Nationality issues.

Spurs ed up, let´s move on, i will be laughing if Scola is the big FA that we get in 2010.

MVP of Spain, not Europe.

[DaDakota]

To be fair nobody knew what Scola was going to be in the NBA, and the Rockets needed help at the PF position badly. Anything was better than Chuck Hayes starting.

I knew.



DD

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I knew.



DD

Anyone that had ever see him play knew. This Franchise guy is typical Rockets fan moron. "Worst NBA player would be MVP in Euroleague", "Langdon dominates Euroleague"

These ing idiots are unreal. They even believe Scola was best player in Europe, which is just as ing stupid.

Of course I try to tell you before how much you overrate Rudy DD and how he is nothing special at all and is just an average player and how Marc Gasol is much better than him, how Spanoulis is much, much, much better than him.

To this you argued with me much. Now of course again you see I was right. NBA fans is base entire game in Europe on what ESPN tells them and it is really pathetic.

[SynicFan]

Who gives a rat's ass about Scola. Everytime he has a good game people come out of the woodwork and rehash the same over and over. He's gone, let it ing go...

regul8 the h8.
learn to appreci8.

[vander]

Bottom line...

If the Spurs lose, these Scola Fans will start pulling for the Rockets, simply because Scola is from Argentina and plays for them...

This is ing blasphemy...you don't ever root for the ing Rockets.

That's like saying you are a Christian but you'll root for Satan in a pinch.

And only a non-Spurfan or newbie would ever think you could.

You can never root for the Kobe Phil Lakers to win a le and be a SpurFan.
You can never root for the Jazz to win a le and be a Spurfan.
You can't root for the Mavs.
You can't root for the Rockets.


So pick your team and shut the up.

You cannot be a SpurFan and a Scola fan at this point...you can either be a Spurfan, a Scola fan, or a fence riding bandwaggoning pussy.

If you aren't going to shut the up about Scola, then shut the up about the Spurs and go throw your lot in with Houston, for better or for worse. Stop trying to hedge...

And don't tell me eveyone of the mother ing Scola Fans won't be pulling for hte Rockets if the Spurs lose.

No true Spurfan would ever root for the Rockets because of a ing scrub....I don't give a how few players from their country play in the NBA.

the argies have never been Spur fans, I don't know why you would hold on to that illusion.

[smeagol]

the argies have never been Spur fans, I don't know why you would hold on to that illusion.

When it comes to fandom, we all know you are an authority

[urunobili]

nope,I just said that the guy knew Scola was gonna be a stud in the NBA,that's all.

you were not a poster on here when he was already IP banned...

[Agloco]

whottt.... last year i made 3 mill on vBookie and smeagol championed the season becase of Scola being the highest scorer on the match... He IS already an Official Spur Killer with credentials...

for the Record and my personal contribution for the thread... Scola when he plays against us... I'm just like smeagol... the Spurs winning is all that matter to me when he is in town...


are you saying you were him? i had my doubts before but it seems you just unveiled yourself with this post...



Scola thought he got ed by the Spurs for not selecting him in the first round... he had a clause that if he was a 1st round selection he could have came ot the NBA at any time... the Spurs promised him they would choose him and they did but in the second... immediately after being selected he declared that the Spurs shouldn't have chosen him at all if it wasn't in the first round... and that they ed up his chances of ever making it to the NBA... TAU... they just took the opportunity and tightened the contract... Luis always said he would have loved to be part of the three rings they won after selecting him but the relationship with RC was broken form the very beginning...

Since when? It's not as if he's eliminated us from the playoffs or beaten us in a game that mattered yet.

[urunobili]

Since when? It's not as if he's eliminated us from the playoffs or beaten us in a game that mattered yet.

pardon for the type o.. a regular season Spur killer with credentials.... happy now?

[kace]

hey, first thread of this forum, 08-22-2004:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500

seems pretty accurate right now

[Agloco]

pardon for the type o.. a regular season Spur killer with credentials.... happy now?

No actually....

Since when do regular season wins give you credentials?

Might sound like I'm splitting hairs, but really now.....give me a few wins in the playoffs and we can start discussing this guys license to kill.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I and also some others here keeps try to explain to NBA American fans that stats in Europe is not same thing as they are in NBA. So many Spurs fans cannot understand this. They keep say thing like "5 rebounds in Europe means player will suck in NBA" and such.

This same arguments keeps come up EVERY TIME someone suggest a player from Europe, just as same case with Scola where Spurs fans really did believe 6 rebounds per game in Euroleague mean this will be really poor rebounder in NBA. Without even understand that 6 rebounds in Euroleague is like 9-10 rebounds in NBA.

Same with assists. No matter how many time this is explain here fans do not believe it. But in Europe an assist is only count if a player score directly on pass. So think of this way, most assists that players like Paul, Nash, Kidd, Stockton and such players gets in NBA will never even be count in Europe.

Also points. So many fans keeps says dumb things like "12 points in Euroleague = 3 points in NBA" but this is stupid. Teams only average 75 points so how can 12 points be same thing as in NBA? Games are much slower and much shorter.

But I and some others here have said this so many times and we never get anywhere and instead we just get insults and call bad names and attacked by others here for say such things. As can see by discussions with Scola Spurs fans need to learn some things about game in Europe. This is prove by how any time a fan bring up a good player in Europe for Spurs they are always attack after some idiots looks up there stats in Europe.

I will show you idiots how foolish you look. I will use Panathinaikos team all time stats as example here for this stats lesson since Panathinaikos team is rank by FIBA Europe as #1 best Euroleague team of last 20 years history. So we will see how best team in Europe in last 20 years has in all history in this same period each best player for stats.

Best career scorers per game in history of Panathinaikos

1. Dejan Bodiroga 18.6
2. Vassilis Spanoulis 12.2
3. Jaka Lakovic 12.1
4. Ibrahim Kutluay 11.4
5. Mike Batiste 10.7
6. Antonis Fotsis 10.1
7. Daryl Middleton 8.7
8. Dimitris Diamantidis 8.6
9. Fragiskos Alvertis 8.3
10. Johnny Rogers 7.9

best career assists per game in history of Panathinaikos

1. Vassilis Spanoulis 3.6
2. Dimitris Diamantidis 3.6
3. Dejan Bodiroga 3.1
4. Jaka Lakovic 2.6
5. Giorgos Kalaitzis 1.7
6. Nikos Hatzivrettas 1.2
7. Ibrahim Kutluay 1.0
8. Kostas Tsartsaris 1.0
9. Johnny Rogers 0.9
10. Antonis Fotsis 0.9

best career rebounds per game in history of Panathinaikos

1. Mike Batiste 5.5
2. Dejan Bodiroga 5.1
3. Antonis Fotsis 4.5
4. Dimitris Diamantidis 4.4
5. Kostsas Tsartsaris 4.1
6. Darryl Middleton 3.6
7. Dimos Dikoudis 2.9
8. Johnny Rogers 2.5
9. Ibrahim Kutluay 2.2
10. Fragiskos Alvertis 2.1

As you can see even in team that has been in the last 20 years the best team in Europe, even in such club as this these are the stats. Even as can see players like Dimitris Diamantidis and Dejan Bodiroga with all their MVP awards and even Diamantidis was vote best player in Europe once, you can see their stats here, Diamantidis winning best European player award and his stats is 8 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists.

So PLEASE from now on when someone explain to you like how Bourousis gets 7-8 rebounds in Europe in one of biggest Euroleague clubs please understand this means he is an incredible rebounder, instead of same crap like "that means he will get 2 rebounds in NBA". Just like how idiots never could learn about Scola.

And please try understand that also stats in Europe is not like same as in NBA like in NBA any stats from same league is use as example. In Europe cannot do that. You cannot use stats from small or even middle size clubs and think is same thing as big size Euroleague clubs. A player can get 15 points and 5 assists in a small Euroleague club and will not even make the roster of a big Euroleague club. Or a player will get 15 points and 3 assists in a middle size Euroleague club and will be lucky to make even active roster of a big Euroleague club.

And no way in can you compare stats from leagues like Spain and Italy and such to Euroleague. But all the time we see here fans is always doing this. Like how players is having such stats in Italy or whatever. Is nonsense.

You must look at players that are in the big Euroleague clubs and then understand what these stats mean. As you can already see player like Luis Scola. Scola in his career in big Euroleague club TAU was 15.4 PPG and 5.9 RPG

Spurs fans kept believe such nonsense as 15 and 6 Euroleague player from big club = 6 and 2 NBA player But as you can see even in NBA playoffs Scola was 14 and 9 player as a rookie.

You need to learn about the stats difference between NBA and big Euroleague clubs before you keep say all this same crap here all the time. Just like in Bourousis thread people are say same re ed .

Just look at Tiago Splitter in TAU (a big Euroleague club) his career numbers is 9.8 PPG and 4.7 RPG 10 and 5 player. So stats is NOT the same as in NBA. Same thing with Vassilis Spanoulis as you can see 12 and 4 type of point guard in a big Euroleague club is the best guard numbers in the history of the best European club of the last 20 years. Yet so many fans here says these are "bad stats".

I am hope now that after Luis Scola situation that Spurs fans will finally understand this that you can see what 15 and 6 player Luis Scola in big Euroleague club can do in NBA. And maybe this will also show some of you how things some of you say to posters like me and some others here is so re ed.

[spursnatic]

Spanoulis is FAR SUPERIOR to players like Pargo and Childress so far this year. This only prove even more what his level is. Pargo at point guard in Greece is like a joke compared to him.

Like I said before..Bring him over to the states and I guarantee you he won't be ..He may play well over there in his own country. But the time he played in the NBA he was trash, did nothing?....So Manu, he will never be..Ginobili plays his game regardless of where the he is at!!!!

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Like I said before..Bring him over to the states and I guarantee you he won't be ..He may play well over there in his own country. But the time he played in the NBA he was trash, did nothing?....So Manu, he will never be..Ginobili plays his game regardless of where the he is at!!!!

Never did anything? He was doing good things all the time in NBA. It was his coach who was the fool not him.

Spanoulis in NBA it has the HD quality button at bottom right you can click but it is long



anyway as can see for a Euro rookie adjusting to NBA and only getting 272 minutes (not even 6 games worth total) all year he showed plenty of ability. Only such an idiot like Van Gundy would not see it, which is one of reasons that idiot was fired and has not got coaching job since.

[spursnatic]

Never did anything? He was doing good things all the time in NBA. It was his coach who was the fool not him.

Spanoulis in NBA it has the HD quality button at bottom right you can click but it is long



anyway as can see for a Euro rookie adjusting to NBA and only getting 272 minutes (not even 6 games worth total) all year he showed plenty of ability. Only such an idiot like Van Gundy would not see it, which is one of reasons that idiot was fired and has not got coaching job since.

Great!!..A video of Spannoulis flopping and fouling the out of everyone!!!!Dude that is the coolest I have seen all day!!! Can you show it to me again?....Seriously?...If you call that talent, I bet you think Brian Cardinal is the best NBA player ever?. And trust me?..I am sure that Van Gundy didn't get fired over not giving Spannoulis enough minutes....He is trash, how many times do I have to tell you that?.....

[noob cake]

28 points, 9 boards, 4 assists on 10/15 shooting tonight.

Scola carried our team tonight.

[sook]

28 points, 9 boards, 4 assists on 10/15 shooting tonight.

Scola carried our team tonight.

12 points in the 1st qrtr...its plain and simple, the dude gets enough touches, he can avg this easily and i love his hustle

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

12 points in the 1st qrtr...its plain and simple, the dude gets enough touches, he can avg this easily and i love his hustle

Scola is excellent but you are full of . he cannot average 28 points a game easily.

[noob cake]

Scola can average 20 (at least high 18's) if he become a first or second option like he has today.

[Blame Tracy]

What's up with Softy Ming?

Nothing, it's typical for guys 7'3" + to have foot issues. It's natural.