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    You still didn't answer the question.

    Why do you say the bonuses are wrong?
    I gave you some credit for being a smartass in the past. Not now. I never said bonuses were wrong. I said the AIG bonus was wrong. Again, give us a break.

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    I gave you some credit for being a smartass in the past. Not now. I never said bonuses were wrong. I said the AIG bonus was wrong. Again, give us a break.
    I was asking specifically about the AIG bonuses. That's why there I used "the" as a qualifier.

    Why do you say the bonuses are wrong?

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    I never said bonuses were wrong. I said the AIG bonus was wrong.

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    He'll say whatever the teleprompter tells him to say...even if it's with a thick Irish accent.
    Its a good day for Obama when a telepromter joke is all i ever hear from you.

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    I was asking specifically about the AIG bonuses. That's why there I used "the" as a qualifier.

    Why do you say the bonuses are wrong?
    Are you kidding me? Ask Obama why they are wrong. You seem to cling on his word more than common sense. You don't give a company billions of dollars to save thier ass only to have that company turn around and hand out millions of dollars to the same employees that helped cause this "crisis"

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    Are you kidding me? Ask Obama why they are wrong. You seem to cling on his word more than common sense. You don't give a company billions of dollars to save thier ass only to have that company turn around and hand out millions of dollars to the same employees that helped cause this "crisis"
    So if the ones who caused the crisis are gone and the ones receiving bonuses are getting them to stay on only until the crisis is resolved and they lose those jobs, does that change your thinking about the bonuses?

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    Its a good day for Obama when a telepromter joke is all i ever hear from you.
    That wasn't a joke.

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    No and wake me up when these current AIG employees quit and go work somewhere else because they did not get a bonus or in this case the ones who gave them back quit.

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    No and wake me up when these current AIG employees quit and go work somewhere else because they did not get a bonus or in this case the ones who gave them back quit.
    If your job is going to definitely end in a few months anyway, what exactly is the incentive to stay?

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    No and wake me up when these current AIG employees quit and go work somewhere else because they did not get a bonus or in this case the ones who gave them back quit.
    Actually, some have resigned...presumably without promise of other employment but, simply because they feared for the safety of themselves and their families.

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    If your job is going to definitely end in a few months anyway, what exactly is the incentive to stay?
    Are you still talking about AIG? If thats the case AIG is safe for a long time thanks to the tax payers. Those guys are not going anywhere.

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    Actually, some have resigned...presumably without promise of other employment but, simply because they feared for the safety of themselves and their families.
    They were smart

    EDIT. They should have waited. Obama made it right basically taken back the bonuses. I bet if you look at the ones who resigned they did not need the job anyway or knew they sucked ass.

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    That wasn't a joke.
    You're right, no comedy intended from your end huh? Ok, let me put it this way, "A pathetic attempt at a joke."

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    Its a good day for Obama when a telepromter joke is all i ever hear from you.
    But, now that you bring it up...


    A presidential plug for Orion


    “This was one of those moments where the future refused to wait until morning,” said Obama.

    All terrific press for Orion, except that Obama kept pronouncing the company’s name wrong, calling it OAR-ee-on.

    After finishing his remarks and talking with a few people, the president returned to the microphone and said his prepared remarks led him to pronounce the firm's name wrong.

    “I suspect this is Or-EYE-on as opposed to OAR-ee-on. Just wanted to make sure that when I’m giving you a plug, that we’ve got the right plug. It’s Or-EYE-on.”
    Hey Chump, the rest of this is stolen from Powerline. You're welcome.

    Orion is one of the best-known constellations, mostly because it actually looks like its namesake. So evidently we have to add astronomy to history and economics as subjects of which Obama is remarkably ignorant. I'm beginning to fear that our President has below-average knowledge of the world. Not for a President, but for a middle-aged American.

    This latest episode suggests that Obama's teleprompter should up the ante. Iowahawk obtained exclusive access to the teleprompter's attempt to shake down the Big Guy (Warning, the teleprompter's language can be a little rough):


    If the teleprompter starts giving the President phonetic pronunciations of words the rest of us know but the President doesn't, there's no telling what concessions he might win!

    Finally, I know it's a trite observation, and one to which we have been driven on almost a daily basis since the Age of Obama began two short months ago, but can you imagine the hooting and hollering that would have ensued if George Bush had never heard of Orion? I can't, actually.

    Yeah, we're in the very best of hands. I'll believe that flub with the Irish guy was a joke when you show me the footage. I think it's being suppressed because it shows how clueless Obama is.

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    You're right, no comedy intended from your end huh? Ok, let me put it this way, "A pathetic attempt at a joke."
    Who's laughing?

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    But, now that you bring it up...


    A presidential plug for Orion



    Hey Chump, the rest of this is stolen from Powerline. You're welcome.

    Orion is one of the best-known constellations, mostly because it actually looks like its namesake. So evidently we have to add astronomy to history and economics as subjects of which Obama is remarkably ignorant. I'm beginning to fear that our President has below-average knowledge of the world. Not for a President, but for a middle-aged American.

    This latest episode suggests that Obama's teleprompter should up the ante. Iowahawk obtained exclusive access to the teleprompter's attempt to shake down the Big Guy (Warning, the teleprompter's language can be a little rough):


    If the teleprompter starts giving the President phonetic pronunciations of words the rest of us know but the President doesn't, there's no telling what concessions he might win!

    Finally, I know it's a trite observation, and one to which we have been driven on almost a daily basis since the Age of Obama began two short months ago, but can you imagine the hooting and hollering that would have ensued if George Bush had never heard of Orion? I can't, actually.

    Yeah, we're in the very best of hands. I'll believe that flub with the Irish guy was a joke when you show me the footage. I think it's being suppressed because it shows how clueless Obama is.
    Holy i think the internet is flooded from the gaffes of the little Bush. Actually i think every other youtube video is one

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    Are you still talking about AIG?
    I was always talking about AIG. You just didn't get it.
    If thats the case AIG is safe for a long time thanks to the tax payers. Those guys are not going anywhere.
    So you have fully embraced the "I don't know about this and I don't want to know about this and I am proud of it" line of thought.

    Fair enough.

    Being angry is fun.

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    Holy i think the internet is flooded from the gaffes of the little Bush. Actually i think every other youtube video is one
    I think Obama has just about caught up with Bush in a mere 2 months time.

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    at Yoni sourcing his material. Was that so difficult?

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    I was always talking about AIG. You just didn't get it.So you have fully embraced the "I don't know about this and I don't want to know about this and I am proud of it" line of thought.

    Fair enough.

    Being angry is fun.
    Nice assumptions except for the part I did not fully grasp you were talking about AIG the whole time. I think I corrected myself with "the" bonuses question.

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    Nice assumptions except for the part I not fully grasp you were talking about AIG the whole time. I think I corrected myself with "the" bonuses question.
    It's nothing compared to the assumptions you have made.

    No big deal.

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    It's nothing compared to the assumptions you have made.

    No big deal.
    I'm pretty sure my assumption that AIG should not have recieved the bonuses was right. I know its a moral thing.

    Its a big deal but thanks to the next coming, he made it right. Well almost. He can't get back 1/4 of the bonuses of the employees that work over seas. They will have to live with that.

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    I'm pretty sure my assumption that AIG should not have recieved the bonuses was right. I know its a moral thing.
    Your underlying assumptions that led you to your conclusion don't seem terribly accurate.

    Its a big deal but thanks to the next coming, he made it right. Well almost. He can't get back 1/4 of the bonuses of the employees that work over seas. They will have to live with that.
    I'm not even sure the assumption it's a big deal is accurate.

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    I think Obama has just about caught up with Bush in a mere 2 months time.
    I'm pretty sure Obama won't go searching for WMDs in India.

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    Your underlying assumptions that led you to your conclusion don't seem terribly accurate.

    I'm not even sure the assumption it's a big deal is accurate.
    That is ur opinion.

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